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  • SariSynthetic
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2009
    • 99

    #1

    I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

    But it's probably a lost cause.

  • Izzy
    Snek
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jan 2003
    • 9195

    #2
    Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

    Besides the population loss the site is much better now than it used to be.

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    • SariSynthetic
      FFR Player
      • Oct 2009
      • 99

      #3
      Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

      Originally posted by Izzy
      Besides the population loss the site is much better now than it used to be.
      In some aspects, I suppose.

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      • Wayward Vagabond
        Confirmed Heartbreaker
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jul 2012
        • 5866

        #4
        Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

        the only thing that has changed is the idiots

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        • kangolokster
          Gotti
          • Oct 2006
          • 344

          #5
          Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

          lmao, you can always whore the site to other social
          networks and see if that works xD

          Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
          Stahp

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          • Hakulyte
            the Haku
            • Jul 2005
            • 4609

            #6
            Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

            Please describe what you think the site used to be.

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            • leonid
              I am leonid
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Oct 2008
              • 8080

              #7
              Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

              I don't think the site changed much since October 2009



              Proud member of Team No

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              • i love you
                Live a wonderful life~
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Oct 2006
                • 7313

                #8
                Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                He/She is probably thinking about things like for example:

                When Multiplayer used to be active 24/7...
                When Video Chat was active/alive 24/7...
                When Widgets existed...
                When the SM Database existed...
                When there were a lot of active users including more active staff members...
                When there were more stuff to do other then just FFR...

                I will say though that despite losing a lot of those things in the past, the site now is better then before (Game/Community wise)...just no where close as active and not nearly as much things to do as before.
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                • Zageron
                  Zageron E. Tazaterra
                  FFR Administrator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 6592

                  #9
                  Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                  The only possible way to recover this site entirely would be to open the SIM database again, fix SIU completely, somehow bring an effective new MeTrivia back, support solo files, fix multiplayer and chats, as well as create a new Video Chat.

                  :<

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                  • i love you
                    Live a wonderful life~
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 7313

                    #10
                    Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                    Unfortunately, most of those things are not going to happen anytime soon.
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                    • qqwref
                      stepmania archaeologist
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 4092

                      #11
                      Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                      It's not just about the site itself though - I'd like to have a more active/friendly userbase. I think this can only be done by being more explicitly friendly to the community, controlling the community more (to eliminate the bad elements, not just for the power), and improving the quality and fun of the main game itself.

                      Originally posted by Zageron
                      open the SIM database again
                      Maybe if we specifically asked for permissions for files to be available on the sim db, and then only allowed files that fit those permissions?

                      Originally posted by Zageron
                      fix SIU completely, somehow bring an effective new MeTrivia back, fix multiplayer and chats, as well as create a new Video Chat.
                      whee, lots of work

                      Originally posted by Zageron
                      support solo files
                      gogogo get blast's permission to use KBO (or at least beta 6key FFR)
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                      • Izzy
                        Snek
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 9195

                        #12
                        Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                        Originally posted by qqwref
                        Maybe if we specifically asked for permissions for files to be available on the sim db, and then only allowed files that fit those permissions?
                        I suggested this awhile back. I guess we don't have permission to actually distribute the music.

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                        • Pseudo Enigma
                          ごめんなさい (/ω\)
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 2290

                          #13
                          Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                          Originally posted by i love you
                          Unfortunately, most of those things are not going to happen anytime soon.
                          or rather, at all. I haven't seen anything officially new on this site except for a new profile style and the profile badges. I've been here since revival, too.

                          I don't expect FFR to change, and I don't even care if it doesn't. It would be nice, but I don't see it happening.

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                          • TC_Halogen
                            Rhythm game specialist.
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 19376

                            #14
                            Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                            Originally posted by Pseudo Enigma
                            or rather, at all. I haven't seen anything officially new on this site except for a new profile style and the profile badges. I've been here since revival, too.

                            I don't expect FFR to change, and I don't even care if it doesn't. It would be nice, but I don't see it happening.
                            If you've been here since site revival, you're definitely neglecting quite a few things.

                            First off, the Velocity engine wasn't even on FFR when the site came back. Velocity had been working on that during site downtime and we (being the community at Dragons Fury) had access to it for a little while. He was pressured to have another admin look at his work by a few users, and eventually approached someone (this is also the same reason how he ended up as administrator). In addition to the engine being brought to FFR, av-misses got fixed and this engine was used to parse replays. Without Velocity, replays would still have average misses in them.

                            When the site was back up, there was a ton of work that needed to be done for it to even be functional. Score recording wasn't working, and if I remember correctly, SmartFox Server (which handles Profile Chat and Multiplayer) wasn't working either. After the site was functional, Profile Chat got a nice update that allows people to private message others, in addition to having relevant time stamps, enabled autoscrolling, and a few other things that are slipping my mind. Also, the buzz feature was added.

                            After plans for Blackwebb got scrapped, R^2 became the next goal in mind to be coded and now a large majority of users have been using the newer (and improved) engine. It performs way better than the old Velocity/Legacy engines for a good majority of people that use it. R^3 is being worked on and has been in beta testing stage for those who have access to the Veteran forum.

                            A system was added for unrecorded scores, one that is semi-automated and is a large improvement from the old way of doing things.

                            There's also the anti-cheat that was added in place to the site, which has served for stopping people from obtaining illegitimate scores (it actually caught someone in the official cheating this year). In addition to that, people use the replay images that a few users have access to for chart analysis and visual aids. Spin It Up is also playable, despite how little of a crowd the game has.

                            Recently, token stats were modified to actually show accuracy just like regular levelranks had.

                            As far as "new and official things", there's also been two official tournaments since the site has came back, and there's always new content being added to the game weekly.

                            There's been a fair amount of things, but people are just a little impatient because the changes don't directly affect them.
                            Last edited by TC_Halogen; 09-21-2012, 05:13 PM.

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                            • Pseudo Enigma
                              ごめんなさい (/ω\)
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 2290

                              #15
                              Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                              Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                              First off, the Velocity engine wasn't even on FFR when the site came back. Velocity had been working on that during site downtime and we (being the community at Dragons Fury) had access to it for a little while. He was pressured to have another admin look at his work by a few users, and eventually approached someone (this is also the same reason how he ended up as administrator). In addition to the engine being brought to FFR, av-misses got fixed and this engine was used to parse replays. Without Velocity, replays would still have average misses in them.
                              Not an official engine, still says FFR the Beta, not a real release. It's not quite what I would call official, and is more of an attempt to learn the engine itself before ****ing with it in R^2 and R^3 which, let's get to that in a second.

                              Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                              When the site was back up, there was a ton of work that needed to be done for it to even be functional. Score recording wasn't working, and if I remember correctly, SmartFox Server (which handles Profile Chat and Multiplayer) wasn't working either. After the site was functional, Profile Chat got a nice update that allows people to private message others, in addition to having relevant time stamps, enabled autoscrolling, and a few other things that are slipping my mind. Also, the buzz feature was added.
                              Cool. Prochat got stuff. I never go on that shit anyway. And repairs to make things work again isn't even complete either

                              *cough* Video Chat *cough*

                              Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                              After plans for Blackwebb got scrapped, R^2 became the next goal in mind to be coded and now a large majority of users have been using the newer (and improved) engine. It performs way better than the old Velocity/Legacy engines for a good majority of people that use it. R^3 is being worked on and has been in beta testing stage for those who have access to the Veteran forum.
                              This isn't anything near officially new. It's not a release, it's yet another damn beta. Also, because R^3 is being worked on I think it's safe to say that R^2 sucked on a peach pit and died.

                              Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                              A system was added for unrecorded scores, one that is semi-automated and is a large improvement from the old way of doing things.

                              There's also the anti-cheat that was added in place to the site, which has served for stopping people from obtaining illegitimate scores (it actually caught someone in the official cheating this year). In addition to that, people use the replay images that a few users have access to for chart analysis and visual aids. Spin It Up is also playable, despite how little of a crowd the game has.
                              cool, an added system to improve on something that should have a total revamp. Anti-cheating is awesome, and I enjoy security additions. For the Replay Images, if only a few people have access to the system allowing you to create it, then it's not an official release, and isn't new at all. It's just beta, unreleased, and yet another privilege for the people to hold over the general community.

                              Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                              Recently, token stats were modified to actually show accuracy just like regular levelranks had.

                              As far as "new and official things", there's also been two official tournaments since the site has came back, and there's always new content being added to the game weekly.
                              Token Stats.. I have never even heard about this until now, so it's obviously not the hottest shit ever, so I have a hard time caring. "New and Official" means there are RELEASES of things, not ANNOUNCEMENTS about things that are being WORKED ON.

                              Therefore, a system in place to host tournaments and SOTW is no where NEAR new at all. Especially with the fact being that they already were here before the site crashed. Therefore it's just another part of the system waking up again after Synth doomed the site.

                              So all of the new things we have had are very small in number.

                              You missed the Replays though, and I do think that was probably the most popular and the best release to date.

                              My point is that the released stuff is very few and far between and I have a hard time caring about these "beta" things because they aren't even releases, just hobbies at best.
                              Last edited by Pseudo Enigma; 09-21-2012, 05:42 PM.

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