Wanting to increase my knowledge of music, and creating music

Re: Wanting to increase my knowledge of music, and creating music

have some wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interval_(music)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triad_(music)






none of this shit will make sense until you doodle on a piano or guitar or $instrument while thinking about it. then you'll be like oh...ooohhhh... oh.

Re: Wanting to increase my knowledge of music, and creating music

this. honestly, quite a lot of this shit still makes no sense to me and I've doodled quite a lot on pianos.

I think you're better off just experimenting in the DAW. play with the piano roll, watch some tutorial videos on how to work the mixer board, etc etc.

Re: Wanting to increase my knowledge of music, and creating music

Play an instrument. Just sit down with a piano or a guitar or a goddamn tuba or whatever you have lying around and see what sounds good.
Only then will you be able to read and really understand why it sounded good.


The more I play, the more I realize music education is a lifelong process.

Re: Wanting to increase my knowledge of music, and creating music

Not sure how much help this site would be to you buuuut feel free to explore.

http://www.musictheory.net/lessons

Yeah. It would make a lot more sense if you could play an instrument. But, see how you go.

Re: Wanting to increase my knowledge of music, and creating music

C, E-flat and G go into a bar. The bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve minors," and E-flat leaves. C and G have an open fifth between them. After a few drinks, the fifth is diminished and G is out flat. F comes in and tries to augment the situation, but is not sharp enough. D comes into the bar and heads straight for the bathroom saying, "Excuse me, I'll just be a second."
A comes into the bar, but the bartender is not convinced that this relative of C is not a minor and sends him out. Then the bartender notices a B-flat hiding at the end of the bar and shouts, "Get out now. You're the seventh minor I've found in this bar tonight."
Next night, E-flat, not easily deflated, comes into the bar in a 3-piece suit with nicely shined shoes. The bartender says: "You're looking pretty sharp tonight. Come on in. This could be a major development." Sure enough, E-flat takes off his suit and everything else and stands there au naturel.
Eventually, C, who had passed out under the bar the night before, begins to sober up and realizes in horror that he's under a rest. So, C goes to trial, is convicted of contributing to the diminution of a minor and sentenced to 10 years of DS without Coda at an up scale correctional facility. The conviction is overturned on appeal, however, and C is found innocent of any wrongdoing, even accidental, and that all accusations to the contrary are bassless.
The bartender decides, however, that since he's only had tenor so patrons, the soprano out in the bathroom and everything has become alto much treble, he needs a rest and closes the bar.

Re: Wanting to increase my knowledge of music, and creating music

Thanks guys. TheThong, that site is actually helping a lot. I seriously have no music knowledge. I can't even read music. -_- Try taking a piano class. I had to remember all the songs by heart, it got pretty difficult at the end of the semester. I'm not doing the last three sections of it yet, until I can remember most of the stuff from the first few sections.

By doing these lessons, Patashu's post actually makes sense now, just by looking at the words. Stone, I have no idea what DAW means. This is what I'm taking about. As well as mixer board.

Edit: quick question. Why isn’t there a fifth chord triad. Lower/higher?

Re: Wanting to increase my knowledge of music, and creating music

Google "music theory" and absorb everything you can! It will seem like a different language at first but once you realize there are only 12 notes to work with its not so bad.

Practice piano! What you learn from piano can translate to almost any other instrument! Including FL studio. (piano roll)

My second piece of advice would just be to do your own thing. Your skills will evolve naturally, if you try to hard to emulate other music (like I have) it will most likely disappoint (you).

Anyways its awesome that you want to better your self in music its very fulfilling!

Re: Wanting to increase my knowledge of music, and creating music

Great! I'm glad it helps.

Re: Wanting to increase my knowledge of music, and creating music

Thanks.

Also, I have no way to play any kind of instrument. I used to play guitar/drums/bass in my teen years, and took a piano class in college. I have the basics of that. I just can't dabble in them anymore. =/

Re: Wanting to increase my knowledge of music, and creating music

Basics are really good. You can build up from there even if you only played them during your teens. It's never too late to improve on what you already know/learn. Do you have access to an instrument?

Also, learning with a music teacher/friend who knows music theory/how to play an instrument might be easier to guide where you want to go.

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Lies :P
You can construct many different types of scales, this image gives an example:



I'm kind of a fan of 19tet/19-edo music... I've taken classes on different musical structures, the stuff people do with these unique scales are really amazing.

Re: Wanting to increase my knowledge of music, and creating music

Music theory l is mainly just common sense once you begin reading music, or play an instrument.

Everything past that is also pretty naturally known except for some vocab.
I wouldn't waste too much time reading up on it unless you are just completely interested; even though I have to know this stuff since lolfI'mamusicmajor(composition major).

Reading up on music theory stuff just makes it all harder than it actually is imo.

Re: Wanting to increase my knowledge of music, and creating music

And music theory has like 32+ rules or something like that. That's the killer lol. Although I'm sure we're just talking about reading music notation and stuff. Actual music theory (harmony, counterpoint, etc.) is a different story and learning it on your own using the internet is probably not the best way to go.

@blindreper: DAW = digital audio workstation

DAWs are typically software on your computer that can create/simulate music on the computer. Fruity Loop (FL) Studio is probably one of the most popular DAWs for instance. A lot of musicians compose or supplement their compositions with DAWs.

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Ah, ok. And there's rules to music? Geez. D:

Thanks bmah.