TWG 209: Jeff's Just Here to Party GAME THREAD

Haha nice, a sort of alter ego. This is a pretty old internet community so there is some unique terminology I think mixed with some of the usual. You will probably notice that from reading the rules too. Hmmm, about me? I sometimes ask a lot of questions hoping that that little bit more detail gets me closer to what the mind frame was. I think I am a bit more competitive and serious than some others, but not really in a domineering way, I do not think.


This is what I would notice with Town of Salem actually, is anybody who a train actually gets going quickly on is not very likely to be mafia. I think in a game like this, part of what makes the analysis so interesting is the exceptions that can arise. The way the mafia are biased by knowing who is mafia, influences their decision making about how much they can get away with defending the other mafia.


Honestly I never really thought about it from this perspective at all. I do not myself feel organic on d0 and so I do not think to look at that in others. However, I must be extra organic right now, because I am half asleep.

I had brought up the possibility of us coming up with an immunity challenge as a conversation topic (not sure if you are familiar with survivor or not; somebody can explain more if you are not.) roundbox suggested we have an art contest.

I might even make use of the forbidden multi quote function that I usually never touch because it's ass to use on phone

I appreciate the dedication to the bit




There's some nuance here that I feel needs to be said. While I've come around from the old days where I just wanted to wholesale toss inactives out early, I feel there needs to be some pressure or threat to draw some of them in.

Yes there are people who are genuinely afk for one reason or another and nothing will change that, but I feel the threat of accumulating votes is needed to keep low activity players who arnt helping solve the game in line, or give them something to respond to (people who don't feel like they have anything to say can usually at least respond defensively to a direct attack or vote). If you take that off the table you could potentially have a bunch of people just not do anything, the high post high effort players cannibalize themselves and it just becomes a dead game where wolves coasting to victory or dying becomes more of a matter of luck. It's a balancing act to maintain, I feel like you also understand this and it will be interesting to see how you put this principle into practice, I will definitely be bringing it up when if or when its relevant come eod.




I multi quoted this, but this feeds back into the previous post. I guess I'll add a few more of my thoughts. If you gave me a gun and told me to shoot anyone alive right now, I think I would never hit someone with 0 posts. Someone who is inactive can always come back, but killing someone freezes their content and people's reactions to it. Even if it feels bad to do like I was saying before, I think you go after people you are either suspicious of or have a lot of interactions with. The trap is it feels like a "waste" to kill someone who is active when inactives are standing right beside them, but the worst case for game health is locking in a kill on a 0 content player and losing a chance to make a kill that can lead to connections and possibly a wolf kill later even if it ends up being a miss. The voting process is also a trove of information that gets wasted when people just park votes on inactives where they don't have to defend their votes because it's seen as "common sense."

I guess I'm still trying to come to grips with where i stand on it atm in a stream of consciousness style. I think I'm mostly on the side of Roundbox in this one.




Just a reiteration of what he said before, I think Roundbox is also trying to find the correct nuance on how to approach this issue. There needs to be some pressure, but it can't be a free ticket for people to just coast on d0 and not have to think or defend their choice of vote.

Not as familiar with what survivor is here. It means something different where I’m from.

Maybe not feeling organic on D1 is from anxiety of meeting people? Game starting? Guilty conscious?

so what kind of metas are possible in this mystery closed setup? what's considered more straightforward at this point than previous games?

with full role flips, I think we're less likely to see role claims unless someone's on the chopping block. It's at that point that I'm interested in understanding the realm of possibilities that could be possible.

Bonehicans and Lahkesis didn't pass the 24h test

I will vote Lahkesis because I can make a joke by telling you to start looking at this thread instead of that other thread
This one is clearly more important

Star's got a point about not pressuring inactives (and freezin too), so I'll put my money where my mind is and vote it up

Sorry folks I am an idiot and was staring at the sign up thread going ok when are we gonna start.

I will outwardly blame the Lasik I got yesterday, but we all know it was stupidity.

Anyway, seeing how this is my first game with all of you (well many of you)... when given the normal vanilla townie tag, how do all of you traditionally act?

Since I dont have a basic playstyle to look out for might help to get your opinions on yourself lol. Or at least drive some conversations or debates!

I'm just getting the chance to get caught up with the thread, but I guess I'll start with this just by asking roundbox what they meant with "looking at that other thread." Like wut other thread? lol

Also can I be honest to say that roundbox having such a direct day 1 meta break down their very first post kind of put me up in ???

For example Roundbox saying "I reFUUUUSE to be wolf read this game," made it sound a bit more like "Hey I'm not the baddie this game, I swear!" Followed by the next post giving the Day1 inactives a free pass as though to almost say "Let's keep the sheep alive as longgg as possible TILL I SAY OTHERWISE."

Not sure how to take it...not enough yet to cast a vote against Roundbox for that reason.....but did anyone get a weird vibe for how this person came off in their first post.

Also why me for a first vote right away out of everyone else? Pretty sure there are more inactives....and also is it not custom for at least one wolf to be announcingly active for the early first pages in the game to at least get their "leg in the door" or what have you.


I'll catch up on the rest of the thread in a few when I feel more awake. Trying not to cram all my meta into one post so I can at least make post count lol



Oh one last thing to answer someone elses question: I have played mafia twg on other sites before...I haven't been able to find a nice simple game in a long while though so I dove into this. PARATROOPER STYLE

Hi, I would like to debate you on why you want to know about vanilla town as opposed to town in general. In my case, I think I have spoken to my style a bit in prior messages, so if you have a more specific followup question for me you may let me know.