Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

**benguino** · 05-14-2013, 02:37 AM

Re: Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

@Jake: You got some good (although somewhat harsh) critique of your song. You also got some good suggestions on how to make your future music better. It's ok that you accept that your music wasn't of good quality, we all start off somewhere. I expect much better from you next time if there is a next time, I don't want to get myself in this mess a second time :P

04im: I'm mostly agreeing with a lot/most of your points, aside from the ad hominems. I'll admit, I tend to be a ****** and make my critiques overly gentle. Sorry 'bout my posting style (I get sick of my own 5 paragraph posts), I hope we're cool. As for middie, the ad hom's are a bit harsh but that's just my opinion. What's going on between you and middie is something you two need to resolve yourselves, I don't want to be a part of it. Please, the individual actions of our individual members are not representative of myself and my actions.

@charu: muffins.

cuz popcorn gets stale too fast

**bmah** · 05-14-2013, 03:11 AM

Re: Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

Time to break away from these arguments. It is entirely understandable why Devil's Music Box is highly polarizing amongst many users here, but let's not take that stance too far with tit for tat. Don't continue this stale debate please.

Also, yes technically judges can take away up to one point for bad music choice, but that has been used with a great degree of caution. As you can probably tell, balancing subjectivity and fairness is not an easy thing to do. In the end, Devil's Music Box was accepted, and you'll just have to take it as that. It's by no means any sort of norm, but it's quite possible for a song like this to end up in the game. However, I do recommend any future steppers to be wary of the music they step. Expect all sorts of feedback and a range of criticisms and opinions. And of course, be civil about the way you express those opinions.

I suggest giving some feedback on the other songs now. I'm sure the other stepartists would appreciate it.

**awein999** · 05-14-2013, 03:30 AM

Re: Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

After not playing for a half a year really and coming back to a bunch of new songs almost all of them have been really enjoyable. The quality of step files here has gone up so much that I'm legit excited to see what's coming every week now.

**Wayward Vagabond** · 05-14-2013, 04:02 AM

Re: Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

I hate all of you

**retching oesophagus** · 05-14-2013, 04:16 AM

Re: Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond

I hate all of you

I hate you more

accepter and producer of low quality simfiles

**SKG_Scintill** · 05-14-2013, 04:44 AM

Re: Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

sup wc

**hi19hi19** · 05-14-2013, 05:56 AM

Re: Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

Originally posted by reuben_tate

Also, from all the stickies, submission rules, etc I've read, I don't remember anything saying that judges can dock off points for song choice. If you think the song sucks, then sure say the song sucks. But unless there's something that says that judges can dock off points purely for song choice, then don't be asking why a chart got in the game because of the song itself. (If they actually can, please correct me, I might have missed something).

"If the MP3 meets bit rate requirement but the original sound quality is bad, we may require a better MP3."

Sound quality (a far more subjective thing) is clearly mentioned in the submission rules, not song choice.
Raw MIDI sounds are poor quality by definition.

Just clearing that up.

**LongGone** · 05-14-2013, 06:24 AM

Re: Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

Originally posted by hi19hi19

Wow I just played VALLISTA and I am extremely surprised that was not a bmah file.
LG clearly channeling his inner Typhlosion when he made that.

"inner Typhlosion" rofl

I just realised that Enkan No Kotowari is that BMS Madoka song oop

**megamon88** · 05-14-2013, 06:49 AM

Re: Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

wtf even my pony files don't get this much of a response

**Wayward Vagabond** · 05-14-2013, 09:01 AM

Re: Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

Originally posted by retching oesophagus

I hate you more

accepter and producer of low quality simfiles

Said no one ever

**Reshiram** · 05-14-2013, 09:56 AM

Re: Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

Okay, VALLISTA looks/feels amazing, I'll just say that. I knew LG could step but godDAMN, son.

Also I can totally see this as a bmah file as well. Wow. And that's a big compliment, trust me.

**SKG_Scintill** · 05-14-2013, 11:58 AM

Re: Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond

Said no one ever

Is this like a new thing? I see this sentence everywhere nowadays!

**TC_Halogen** · 05-14-2013, 12:33 PM

Re: Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

Originally posted by hi19hi19

For comparison, I'll use AJ's first song on FFR.
Faint Breath is also compositionally pretty amateur, what with the recycled beats and default fruityloops bass sounds and stuff. However you can tell at least a minimum of effort was put into making it sound like a well-produced song. There's dynamic changes and a variety of instrumentation... it's pretty listenable despite its shortcomings and I have no problem with that kind of song in game.

Really appreciate the comment, but I'm gonna badger you on the defaults because I know how to do more than just use basic samples.

But yeah, I couldn't help but feel like DMB was made just for the sake of an R1 Music Producer title -- not that I'm in any position to talk, I mean... I kinda half-assed on Faint Breath's chart just to get it in, but the song itself wasn't entirely created with intent of just being in game. [shameless self promotion] Hilariously enough, Sentence (see Soundcloud in signature) is something that I wanted to use to get Music Producer on ThirdStyle, but I just couldn't figure out how I wanted it stepped [/shameless self promotion].

As far as the files for this week, I've only had the chance to play VALLISTA. It's pretty hard...

EDIT: I do kinda feel bad for Jake, though -- he actually asked for my help to try and liven up his instrumentation a bit, but I didn't have appropriate instruments in my EWQLSO VST to fit his composition... *sigh*

**popsicle_3000** · 05-14-2013, 08:24 PM

Re: Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

wow, so much hate for a simple jack file. I played it b4 on our team engine, and thought it was quite good. Not a fan of jacks, but at least nicer than CSGS, fei or bit blue. i'd have a file like that in game over something like Louder! any day.

**jimerax** · 05-14-2013, 10:09 PM

Re: Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

I don't see any issues DMB song/file itself, or judgement process about the song/file.

Only under extreme circumstances is a simfile author allowed to pull his or her file. Otherwise, it remains as it is.

Songs of the Week (May 11, 2013)

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