The Fitness Thread

**Renevatia** · 04-12-2013, 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by SCWolf

First off, it's probably best to figure out what you want to do first. You can only build muscle on a caloric surplus, and lose weight on a caloric deficit. If you're 12% body fat, you should be fine to just clean bulk. What I mean by "clean" bulk, is building muscle while putting on minimal fat.

P90x is pretty counter-productive while you're trying to bulk because it burns a fuckton of calories. I started with P90x and realised this within the first month and switched to the gym.

Also no, that goal is impossible if you're doing this without steroids.

Thanks for the note, at least I am a little more comfortable downing a crap ton of food now, I will see if I can move everything to the gym and start doing weights instead. P90x does seem like a bit much cardio even when I try to add in weights and doing lower reps.
I don't think I will be changing my goal, still doing research but I want to get there.

**Reach** · 04-12-2013, 04:43 AM

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Originally posted by Senip

Sad faces all around, gaining weight while at a calorie deficit, doing 40 mins of cardio every day and fucking hungry. 12 more months of this shit, if I look like shit I'm probably going to duck out of the shows until my skin catches up.

Thermodynamically impossible.

There are...three situations where you can gain *muscle* on a cut, but it's at the expensive of fat for an energy source (noob gains, muscle memory, steroids).

You can't create mass from nothing. That breaks the laws of physics lmao.

The only way you're gaining true weight at a caloric deficit is if you're gaining water. Otherwise, you're eating at caloric surplus bro.

I'd cut your caloric intake right away. Realistically a calculator probably just fucked up your TDEE. It happens. I never trust them.

**Senip** · 04-12-2013, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by Reach

Thermodynamically impossible.

There are...three situations where you can gain *muscle* on a cut, but it's at the expensive of fat for an energy source (noob gains, muscle memory, steroids).

You can't create mass from nothing. That breaks the laws of physics lmao.

The only way you're gaining true weight at a caloric deficit is if you're gaining water. Otherwise, you're eating at caloric surplus bro.

I'd cut your caloric intake right away. Realistically a calculator probably just fucked up your TDEE. It happens. I never trust them.

I dunno man, he cut my cals and I went up a few pounds, don't feel like I'm retaining water but it's entirely possible.

**Reach** · 04-12-2013, 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by Senip

I dunno man, he cut my cals and I went up a few pounds, don't feel like I'm retaining water but it's entirely possible.

Has to be water. No other explanation lmao

Well, the other explanation is you switched weigh in times, but again that's water retention. You weighing the same time every day?

I'm down to 174. Officially down 9.6 lbs in like 5 weeks. Not too bad.

Still haven't lost strength. Maintained or gains on all lifts.

Right now my target weight is to just get under 170. Losses have slowed down a lot lately, and I'm already getting really lean. I don't even want to get much leaner, so coming in somewhere under 170 should have me looking pretty sick without being unsustainably lean.

**SCWolf** · 04-12-2013, 06:48 PM

Re: The Fitness Thread

Originally posted by Reach

Has to be water. No other explanation lmao

Well, the other explanation is you switched weigh in times, but again that's water retention. You weighing the same time every day?

I'm down to 174. Officially down 9.6 lbs in like 5 weeks. Not too bad.

Still haven't lost strength. Maintained or gains on all lifts.

Right now my target weight is to just get under 170. Losses have slowed down a lot lately, and I'm already getting really lean. I don't even want to get much leaner, so coming in somewhere under 170 should have me looking pretty sick without being unsustainably lean.

Good job dude! Retaining that strength is really good.

**Senip** · 04-12-2013, 10:02 PM

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Haven't really lost weight, just been leaning up. I can see my ribs, abs are back, etc etc.

Strength appears to be about the same, although I can't really tell because with mountain dog you either do the compound exercises last (for maximum fuck me potential) or not at all, like with bench.

Definitely stronger on incline bench though, went from struggling with 225 to repping out some 275s. Not really that surprised, pretty much any chest exercise (and legs, and everything but arms/back) if I actually focus, I'll get really good gains.

**Senip** · 04-13-2013, 12:09 PM

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https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/562656_583415995003098_1626695087_n.jpg

Jodi squat 270 at a weight of 112 today.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/906130_476343659103846_1157573611_o.jpg

Phil and Antoine with some guys who make them look (sort of) tiny.

**SCWolf** · 04-13-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by Senip

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/906130_476343659103846_1157573611_o.jpg

Phil and Antoine with some guys who make them look (sort of) tiny.

This is probably the funniest thing I've seen all week hahahaha

**Renevatia** · 04-13-2013, 04:16 PM

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Gained 2lbs over the 8 days, empty stomach morning measure on both. Probably a great deal of water weight.
Feels okay on the food still
gym day
Squat=160 :/
Bench=115

I am not sure what shape I want to be in yet in terms of how much weight I want to end up doing. Since I don't know people around my size to compare to.
Since I am trying to do Ping Pong competitively I want to be around 150-160 and nothing less than around 8% bf ultimately. I don't want to be too heavy to the point where I slow down too much on ITG.

**Senip** · 04-14-2013, 12:53 PM

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I...I dont understand.

How big are you anyways? There's plenty of fast, bulky people! Look at Antoine Vaillant, he's like a judo master flip artist or something. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT8yRoWePnw

Of course, there's also Bruce Lee...channel your inner bruce!

**Senip** · 04-14-2013, 09:46 PM

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https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/530075_487031578018912_2044360135_n.jpg

IFBB pro, Dan Newmire (fucking monster), Tyrus Hughes (second monster), IFBB pro part 2, Cody (19 years old goddammit), some random dude.

Everyone's getting in the videos now, there's some dude who pays you 200 dollars to do a workout video shoot, cant wait to get lean enough to do it.

**kmay** · 04-14-2013, 09:55 PM

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someone in that picture is 19???

**Senip** · 04-14-2013, 10:23 PM

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the second white guy, yah.

**kmay** · 04-14-2013, 10:30 PM

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he's huge. wtf.

**SCWolf** · 04-15-2013, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by kmay

he's huge. wtf.

Steroids, man.

Back progress.

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