8th Official FFR Tournament - Final Round!

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  • Hateandhatred
    "The Quebec Steparatist."
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Feb 2011
    • 1974

    #1516
    Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

    Originally posted by psychoangel691
    This can kinda be said the same for the higher D4 players that are finding this song easier for themselves or to people who this plays to their strengths. I went back to look through some of the people again who haven't managed to SDG and these people have actually tried significantly. I saw 93 plays on someone who doesn't have an SDG on it yet.
    Makes me curious then.

    I guess the first thing I should do after AAAing myself is to find these fellow D4ers who are having trouble and try my best to help them brutalizing this file so the competition in the division can be even tighter! >=)

    Of course, with no pretention of being the Walk on Water guru, but more in a way of tightening rivalries with people =P
    Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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    • FFR Pro 21
      FFR R1 Vaporeon
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jul 2009
      • 1536

      #1517
      Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

      Originally posted by ~Zeta~
      Don't expect Rank 1's to change much lol.
      Lol. The way you guys smash those keys, I'm expecting a few rank 1's to last deep into the tournament.





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      • LaZboy77
        #149
        • Feb 2009
        • 148

        #1518
        Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

        Managed to AAA Walk on Water before heading out to school. Well . . . see you guys next week.
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        • thesunfan
          Role Tide
          Sectional Moderator
          • May 2011
          • 10859

          #1519
          Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

          Walk on Water is getting destroyed in here lmao.
          It was my first VC SRAAA and my 1000th overall AAA, so that's cool I guess.
          cya next week guys.
          Originally posted by Vendetta21
          Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
          Originally posted by XelNya
          I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
          Originally posted by star-crossed
          (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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          • 8 Hour Whore
            ←↓↑→ Lets Bang? ←↓↑→
            • Oct 2006
            • 2324

            #1520
            Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

            In my opinion Walk on Water is easier because it doesn't just focus on one skill set too harshly. It's a well done file honestly. I for one have only 2 lvl 59 AAAs and they're my highest AAAs which to me are much harder then Walk on Water. I'd give it myself a 54-56. The ending doesn't get insanely tricky like in Touch Me. Which was the cause of most peoples non-AAAs for round 1.
            R.I.P JellyGod <333

            Best AAA: Banned Forever
            BlackFlags: 49

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            • Salitz
              Avid Arrow Annihilator
              • Apr 2007
              • 160

              #1521
              Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

              The way I see it, from a consistency standpoint, Walk on Water IS more difficult than Touch Me. It's obviously faster, and the the majority of the song feels like (excuse my terminology) bursts of jumpstream (idk how else to describe it lol) as to Touch Me which is made up of mostly simple beats and patterns.

              On the other hand, I feel Touch Me is more difficult when it comes to trying to AAA. Those 32nd bursts and mini-jacks can make for annoying transitions to players who aren't as adept in those areas, and can really trip up a good run if you're not careful. Walk on Water does have some fairly quick sections, but they're a little smoother to transition in and out of, and since you're already moving your fingers fairly quickly, they're not as sudden.

              What's probably happening here is that most of the D4 players have the skill to handle the consistent difficulty of Walk on Water without much of a second thought, and since there's no extreme variation in difficulty throughout the song, there isn't any certain pattern to mess up on. If you can't handle the consistent difficulty of the song... well, you're gonna have a bad time. Thus, the variation in high/low scores. I think the difficulty is justified to be higher, but not that much higher (maybe a 57 perhaps).

              Either way, I expect a low SDG cutoff (probably 4-0-0-0 ish) stretching to scores in the 20 good area. Then again, who am I to say that, I don't know anything about this game.

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              • TC_Halogen
                Rhythm game specialist.
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Feb 2008
                • 19376

                #1522
                Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                See, now that is an explanation that I can respect and understand. Thank you for wording it properly, Salitz.

                This is actually a common problem in higher divisions, where a bursty file can be rated lower than a file consisting entirely of high speed 16th jumpstream, but players will do better on the latter because it is more simplistic in structure.

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                • 8 Hour Whore
                  ←↓↑→ Lets Bang? ←↓↑→
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 2324

                  #1523
                  Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                  Originally posted by Salitz

                  What's probably happening here is that most of the D4 players have the skill to handle the consistent difficulty of Walk on Water without much of a second thought, and since there's no extreme variation in difficulty throughout the song, there isn't any certain pattern to mess up on. If you can't handle the consistent difficulty of the song... well, you're gonna have a bad time. Thus, the variation in high/low scores. I think the difficulty is justified to be higher, but not that much higher (maybe a 57 perhaps).
                  Lol South Park... I Died laughing
                  R.I.P JellyGod <333

                  Best AAA: Banned Forever
                  BlackFlags: 49

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                  • ReikonKeiri
                    i wanna be ur pop star
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 2388

                    #1524
                    Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                    yeah I couldn't AAA the 32nd blips in Touch Me to save my life. Never bothered trying to warm up, but I didn't even need to warm up to AAA Walk on Water.


                    FMO AAAs (3): Heavenly Spores (68), Fast Asleep (67)!, 0 (piano version) (66)! VC AAAs: 76
                    Best VCs: Finders Keepers (64), Purple (64), Travel Demon (63), Final Step (63), A World of Piano (63), Balloon Fever (63), The Fusion (63)

                    It's Only Natural BF
                    Southern Cross BF
                    Minute Waltz v2 BF
                    Novo Mundo BF
                    Stark Raving Mad BF
                    Midnight Dragon 1-0-0-1
                    Choprite 2 clean
                    Rottel 2 clean
                    J&C 2 clean
                    Chronograph 2-1-0-1
                    BB Evo 3 clean
                    Staring at my Spaceship 3 clean
                    Epilogue 3-0-0-1
                    Banned Forever 3-0-0-1
                    World Tour 2004 3-0-1-4
                    Demon Beast Appearance 4 clean
                    Gacha Gacha Figu Atto Radio 4 clean
                    Gravity Blast 4 clean
                    Just Why 4 clean
                    Eternal Drain [Heavy] 4 clean
                    300 4-0-0-1
                    Pure Ruby 5 clean
                    Destination of the Heart 5 clean
                    Plasmatextor 5-0-0-4
                    Oni 6 clean
                    Yorukumoryuu Yamikaze 6 clean
                    Ambient Angels 6 clean
                    Colorful Course 6 clean
                    Hajnal 6 clean
                    Arsonist 7-0-0-1
                    Setsujou! Hyakka Ryouran 7-1-0-1
                    Face in the Gutter 8 clean
                    Kanon Medley 8 clean
                    Colibri 8 clean
                    Summer Time Perfume 8 clean
                    Blindfolds Aside 8-0-0-1
                    Bubble Bath Aftermath 8-0-0-1
                    Bloody Tears 8-0-0-2
                    Ochitsukeruwakenaiwayo! [Heavy] 9 clean


                    Originally posted by Moogle-master
                    To be fair, having all the BlazBlue's isn't good taste more then it is common sense.

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                    • popsicle_3000
                      Legendary Noob
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 4641

                      #1525
                      Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                      good stuff salitz.
                      touch me had the rolls which where the bursty parts. needed a tad more luck with them. Walk on water is denser, but I have no problem reading it.
                      it must be a song like reality. so so dense until you can do it then it's not as bad (i know, i'm talking about reality)

                      Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                      39,000 popsicles pro bg blue note arrow slayer whoa damn..
                      Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                      one way to stream them all
                      Originally posted by Xiz
                      Right after sex, it skillboosted me by +10 levels from like a 35-45 about. (Which then 15 min's later I got really tired and couldn't play anymore)

                      But then my lady friend got pissed off I was playing FFR instead of playing her. Then for the rest of the night she played the 'Only want me for my body' card and I didn't get to sleep with blankets that night.
                      Originally posted by thesunfan
                      replacing ifitypedhisnameaslargeashisnamesuggests,iwouldgetbanned with theelongatedaustrocanadian3000 (pop).
                      Originally posted by reuben_tate
                      Title: Popsicle Three

                      Thousand the farthest
                      He's gone in an official
                      Whoop hip hip hooray!
                      Originally posted by U.N. Owen
                      kjwkjw: "oh my god, Tosh. Post that in the thread."

                      @popsicle_3000:
                      Danger incoming
                      The popsicles are melting
                      Three thousand of them
                      Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                      you got to ease the topic into some conversation and let it go from there

                      dynam0: man friend that was an intense sm session right?
                      friend: haha yeah you really nailed those patterns
                      dynam0: yeah man kind of like how gay dudes nail other gay dudes in the ass!
                      friend: hey bro can i tell you something
                      dynam0 yeah man whats up?
                      friend: hypothetically speaking would you care if i was bisexual or maybe even gay?
                      dynam0: bro we shower together after sm sessions all the time and i'll still shower with you even if you are gay or w/e thats your thing just dont try to ram my ass HAHAHA
                      friend: thanks man
                      dynam0: no problem man
                      Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                      pop takin' time out of playing irl Trauma Center to check in on his fiffer buds (mm)
                      Originally posted by Xiz
                      Well, Popsicle won every award this year so it was canceled.

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                      • RadiantVibe
                        PUNKTURE DERBY
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 723

                        #1526
                        Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                        Originally posted by Bobby Jeffrey Hill
                        the intro of beautiful arrhythmia is the hardest part :/
                        this is so true

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                        • Anon1337
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 152

                          #1527
                          Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                          New goal: BF every round >.>

                          edit: ffffffffffff
                          Last edited by Anon1337; 01-30-2013, 01:22 PM.

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                          • bmah
                            shots FIRED
                            Profile Moderator
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            Global Moderator
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 8448

                            #1528
                            Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                            I'm going to have to agree with the majority here in that Walk on Water is not more difficult than the previous round's song. As mentioned earlier, jacks seem to present a slightly greater challenge for most people, hence Touch Me is probably slightly more difficult. And if not that, the 32nds seem to be the general consensus of being the most difficult parts of that song. Despite the two songs requiring different skill sets, I wouldn't exceed Walk on Water's difficulty past 55 (i.e. same diff as Touch Me).

                            Regardless, I think D4 is getting excellent songs/charts so far.

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                            • Charu
                              Snivy! Dohoho!
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 6207

                              #1529
                              Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!



                              Slowly improving, but goodness, those bursts are somewhat awkward to hit. But I'm prevailing and showing the chart who's boss!


                              Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                              Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                              Had a very shiny nose
                              And if you ever saw it
                              You could even say it glows

                              All of the other Snivies
                              Used to laugh and call him names
                              They never let poor Charu
                              Join in any Snivy games

                              (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                              Originally posted by Vendetta21
                              All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                              • Shouka
                                FFR Veteran
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 382

                                #1530
                                Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                                This took me 74 attempts total (about half probably ended in the first 100 notes because of laziness) as opposed to 2 for Touch Me

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