8th Official FFR Tournament - Final Round!

**Hateandhatred** · 01-30-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by psychoangel691

This can kinda be said the same for the higher D4 players that are finding this song easier for themselves or to people who this plays to their strengths. I went back to look through some of the people again who haven't managed to SDG and these people have actually tried significantly. I saw 93 plays on someone who doesn't have an SDG on it yet.

Makes me curious then.

I guess the first thing I should do after AAAing myself is to find these fellow D4ers who are having trouble and try my best to help them brutalizing this file so the competition in the division can be even tighter! >=)

Of course, with no pretention of being the Walk on Water guru, but more in a way of tightening rivalries with people =P

**FFR Pro 21** · 01-30-2013, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by ~Zeta~

Don't expect Rank 1's to change much lol.

Lol. The way you guys smash those keys, I'm expecting a few rank 1's to last deep into the tournament.

**LaZboy77** · 01-30-2013, 10:44 AM

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Managed to AAA Walk on Water before heading out to school.

Well . . . see you guys next week.

**thesunfan** · 01-30-2013, 10:51 AM

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Walk on Water is getting destroyed in here lmao.
It was my first VC SRAAA and my 1000th overall AAA, so that's cool I guess.
cya next week guys.

**8 Hour Whore** · 01-30-2013, 10:57 AM

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In my opinion Walk on Water is easier because it doesn't just focus on one skill set too harshly. It's a well done file honestly. I for one have only 2 lvl 59 AAAs and they're my highest AAAs which to me are much harder then Walk on Water. I'd give it myself a 54-56. The ending doesn't get insanely tricky like in Touch Me. Which was the cause of most peoples non-AAAs for round 1.

**Salitz** · 01-30-2013, 10:59 AM

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The way I see it, from a consistency standpoint, Walk on Water IS more difficult than Touch Me. It's obviously faster, and the the majority of the song feels like (excuse my terminology) bursts of jumpstream (idk how else to describe it lol) as to Touch Me which is made up of mostly simple beats and patterns.

On the other hand, I feel Touch Me is more difficult when it comes to trying to AAA. Those 32nd bursts and mini-jacks can make for annoying transitions to players who aren't as adept in those areas, and can really trip up a good run if you're not careful. Walk on Water does have some fairly quick sections, but they're a little smoother to transition in and out of, and since you're already moving your fingers fairly quickly, they're not as sudden.

What's probably happening here is that most of the D4 players have the skill to handle the consistent difficulty of Walk on Water without much of a second thought, and since there's no extreme variation in difficulty throughout the song, there isn't any certain pattern to mess up on. If you can't handle the consistent difficulty of the song... well, you're gonna have a bad time. Thus, the variation in high/low scores. I think the difficulty is justified to be higher, but not that much higher (maybe a 57 perhaps).

Either way, I expect a low SDG cutoff (probably 4-0-0-0 ish) stretching to scores in the 20 good area. Then again, who am I to say that, I don't know anything about this game.

**TC_Halogen** · 01-30-2013, 11:04 AM

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See, now that is an explanation that I can respect and understand. Thank you for wording it properly, Salitz.

This is actually a common problem in higher divisions, where a bursty file can be rated lower than a file consisting entirely of high speed 16th jumpstream, but players will do better on the latter because it is more simplistic in structure.

**8 Hour Whore** · 01-30-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by Salitz

What's probably happening here is that most of the D4 players have the skill to handle the consistent difficulty of Walk on Water without much of a second thought, and since there's no extreme variation in difficulty throughout the song, there isn't any certain pattern to mess up on. If you can't handle the consistent difficulty of the song... well, you're gonna have a bad time. Thus, the variation in high/low scores. I think the difficulty is justified to be higher, but not that much higher (maybe a 57 perhaps).

Lol South Park... I Died laughing

**ReikonKeiri** · 01-30-2013, 11:32 AM

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yeah I couldn't AAA the 32nd blips in Touch Me to save my life. Never bothered trying to warm up, but I didn't even need to warm up to AAA Walk on Water.

**popsicle_3000** · 01-30-2013, 12:28 PM

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good stuff salitz.
touch me had the rolls which where the bursty parts. needed a tad more luck with them. Walk on water is denser, but I have no problem reading it.
it must be a song like reality. so so dense until you can do it then it's not as bad (i know, i'm talking about reality)

**RadiantVibe** · 01-30-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by Bobby Jeffrey Hill

the intro of beautiful arrhythmia is the hardest part :/

this is so true

**Anon1337** · 01-30-2013, 01:12 PM

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New goal: BF every round >.>

edit: ffffffffffff

**bmah** · 01-30-2013, 01:19 PM

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I'm going to have to agree with the majority here in that Walk on Water is not more difficult than the previous round's song. As mentioned earlier, jacks seem to present a slightly greater challenge for most people, hence Touch Me is probably slightly more difficult. And if not that, the 32nds seem to be the general consensus of being the most difficult parts of that song. Despite the two songs requiring different skill sets, I wouldn't exceed Walk on Water's difficulty past 55 (i.e. same diff as Touch Me).

Regardless, I think D4 is getting excellent songs/charts so far.

**Charu** · 01-30-2013, 01:24 PM

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Slowly improving, but goodness, those bursts are somewhat awkward to hit. But I'm prevailing and showing the chart who's boss!

**Shouka** · 01-30-2013, 01:59 PM

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This took me 74 attempts total (about half probably ended in the first 100 notes because of laziness) as opposed to 2 for Touch Me

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