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  • dAnceguy117
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    • Dec 2002
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    #61
    Re: United States presidential election, 2012

    Originally posted by adlp
    those are some main reasons i'll choose Romney over Obama anyday.
    personally, I disagree with most of those things. but

    Originally posted by adlp
    him being a social conservative too does appeal to me, but for this election, it doesn't weigh heavily on why i voted the way i did.
    throwing a bunch of respect in your direction. /o/

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    • kommisar
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      • Jun 2005
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      #62
      Re: United States presidential election, 2012

      his views on human beings in general is enough not to vote for him

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      • Reincarnate
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        • Nov 2010
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        #63
        Re: United States presidential election, 2012

        Originally posted by adlp
        you don't have to be wealthy to want to vote repub, thats a p dumb stereotype imo
        I'm not saying it because it's a stereotype. It's just that Romney's policies only really benefit you if you happen to be rich. Otherwise, you are voting against your own economic interests.

        Originally posted by adlp
        $16 trill in debt and climbing, with he not being able to pass his own budget in congress.
        Yes, it's a massive number, but do you realize that the debt isn't a big issue right now? A huge, huge portion of it is basically money we owe ourselves (do you know how, say, trust funds like social security work and where the interest payments go from/to?). It's not the same (at all) as someone being in debt to, say, a credit card company.

        If you want to actually net things out with respect to foreign holders, for every dollar of US debt that's owned by a foreign country, we own something like 89 cents of foreign debt.

        Our debt is super cheap and the USD is the world reserve currency:



        So if you're going to assess how much debt is good/bad, you need to do it with some context if you're going to defend your point.



        Originally posted by adlp
        i'm hoping Romney can bridge his own success in the private sector to successful and rapid growth of the economy.
        How do you think he got his success in the private sector in the first place? Also, do you understand how private equity works?

        Why do you think someone who has his particular experience is qualified to run a country? Do you think running a business and a company are comparable? Do you think the goals are the same, and how those goals are achieved?

        Why do you think Romney's policies would result in rapid growth?

        (I'm not asking these rhetorically. I'm asking you to defend your position)


        Originally posted by adlp
        Obama tried, couldn't bring down unemployment as much as promised. he can't stop borrowing and spending either. at this rate it seems like we'll be looking alot like Greece.
        Our situation isn't anywhere close to entering Greek territory...

        Also, if you're going to talk about what Obama promised, it helps to look at what he actually said (see sources here): http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...nemployment-w/

        Lastly, do you see how that upward trend in unemployment started before Obama even took office? What do you think finally allowed for the turnaround? Are you aware how spending is dictated, and how much of that spending was the result of pre-Obama legislature? If so, I find it hard to believe you'd be pinning Obama for this.

        Originally posted by adlp
        i also don't like Obamacare. rushing and pushing a shady 1,300+ page bill up congress' butthole that was almost completely repealed later was just stupid. there's no way it's not going to increase the deficit. I like how Romney wants to repeal it ASAP. there was good intention behind the healthcare bill, but federal coverage isnt the way to go for us americans. i dont know exactly what Romney wants to do (maybe mandate for states to adopt their own insurance programs like his in Mass.? idk) i can't remember. i would've tackled the healthcare crisis through difference methods, probably through Tort reform to help protect doctors against menial, exploitative malpractice suits, which would encourage them to lower their costs. just an idea.
        Obamacare isn't perfect, but it's actually better than what we've got. Anything further than that would have gotten cockblocked with our current system. Why do you think it'd increase the deficit? Do you understand the concept of risk pooling and how insurance works? Are you aware of how the cost distributions would differ and who'd they affect?

        Originally posted by adlp
        i like how Romney has bipartisan experience. Obama isn't willing to work with republicans in congress and vice versa. being a successful GOP gov in a hardcore blue state makes you sound pretty good.
        LOL WHAT.

        Do I have to bust out the data for this one or will you save me the trouble?

        Originally posted by adlp
        i like how Romney is adamant about keeping the military strong (#Horses&BayonetzZz), and our global presence stronger. if planet earth was an action game, i'd want to be a part of the country that's OP.
        Don't you think we spend a little too much on the military right now?





        And are you aware of the cost of the problems that have occurred as a result of needless interference? You say you dislike spending but you're OK with something like this at the expense of everything else?

        Why don't you take a look at this and tell me what you think seriously needs to be cut:

        http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...us/budget.html


        Originally posted by adlp
        those are some main reasons i'll choose Romney over Obama anyday. him being a social conservative too does appeal to me, but for this election, it doesn't weigh heavily on why i voted the way i did. he and i are also from the same faith, and i know what his priorities in life are and how he raises a successful family.
        In what way is faith important to you in a President? Do you think church and state shouldn't be separated? What "values/priorities" are you referring to? What are your views on things like gay marriage / abortion / death penalty / etc?

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        • DotKritic
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          #64
          Re: United States presidential election, 2012

          updated

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          • eastsideman09
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            #65
            Re: United States presidential election, 2012

            Originally posted by Abstract Art
            swing states
            Originally posted by Coolboyrulez0
            yeah dude
            yeah i know
            And from the looks of it, Obama will be taking both Ohio and Florida.

            Maybe it's just because I live on the conservative side of Florida, and my FB News Feed is filled with #Romney2012, but I think the notion of it being 'close' will be probably be silenced by the time we hit the west coast.
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            • dAnceguy117
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              #66
              Re: United States presidential election, 2012

              Originally posted by kommisar
              his views on human beings in general is enough not to vote for him
              same goes for anyone, esp. right now.

              social issues are a big deal. they're just not nearly as time-sensitive as da economy. I think voters in the US need to be single-minded right now.

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              • i heart candy
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                • Jun 2012
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                #67
                Re: United States presidential election, 2012

                adlp, just stop
                Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                ur my favorite :')

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                • kommisar
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                  #68
                  Re: United States presidential election, 2012

                  as great as the economy of your country may look, it won't fix everything else :<

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                  • TC_Halogen
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                    #69
                    Re: United States presidential election, 2012

                    political arguments ahoy!

                    Huffington has it 124 to 154, Romney.

                    EDIT: FOX analysts just projected Obama to win PA -- 147 to 149, now.

                    EDIT: holy shit, the difference in votes in the state of Florida...
                    Last edited by TC_Halogen; 11-6-2012, 07:21 PM.

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                    • ~Zeta~
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                      • Oct 2010
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                      #70
                      Re: United States presidential election, 2012

                      I have not talked to or run into a person who supported Romney
                      Never saw an advert or booth supporting Romney


                      he has the popular vote and leading.

                      wut


                      it may just be my view, but America is looking dumb.

                      143-153 Romney (projected on CBS @9:21pm EST)
                      Last edited by ~Zeta~; 11-6-2012, 07:25 PM.

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                      • Reincarnate
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                        #71
                        Re: United States presidential election, 2012

                        Based on the current electoral map, Obama's almost certain to win (mathematically/statistically speaking).

                        FOUR MORE BEERS

                        Halogen: Yeah Florida is pretty much a coin toss (quite literally around ~50% one way or the other)

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                        • DotKritic
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                          #72
                          Re: United States presidential election, 2012

                          Republicans will retain the House of Representatives.

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                          • eastsideman09
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                            #73
                            Re: United States presidential election, 2012

                            Originally posted by Reincarnate
                            Halogen: Yeah Florida is pretty much a coin toss (quite literally around ~50% one way or the other)
                            From what I'm looking at on HuffPo, the most densely populated parts of Florida still need to be counted, and they're the ones trending in Obama's favor. They've got Romney up by 0.1% right now, but I don't think that will last.

                            EDIT: Anddddd now it's deadlocked at 49.6%, with Obama leading by a <2000 lol
                            Originally posted by dAnceguy117
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                            • Abstract Art
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                              #74
                              Re: United States presidential election, 2012

                              If Romney doesn't win Florida, it's definitely over.

                              Anyone have an update on Virginia? What percentage of the votes are in?
                              Last edited by Abstract Art; 11-6-2012, 07:38 PM.

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                              • Reincarnate
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                                #75
                                Re: United States presidential election, 2012

                                Originally posted by eastsideman09
                                From what I'm looking at on HuffPo, the most densely populated parts of Florida still need to be counted, and they're the ones trending in Obama's favor. They've got Romney up by 0.1% right now, but I don't think that will last.

                                EDIT: Anddddd now it's deadlocked at 49.6%, with Obama leading by a <2000 lol
                                It's going to be close, and yeah there is still more to count.



                                As an aside:
                                My predictions for the election had been
                                303 vs 235
                                OH, VA, CO, NV, NH, IA for Obama
                                FL, NC for Romney

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