FFR on Facebook?!

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People still use it because as a social media portal, it's actually fine, though not great.

It's not the same as a site like Kongregate. People go to Kong FOR games. Apps on FB are just apps. They're messy, they actually do data mine, and they have a lack of personalization that always leaves you very aware you're playing a facebook game. In a word, they're CHEAP.

I would say FFR is already beyond the scope of what FB can do for it, and that you can't rely on trashy one-offs like Zynga (which is crashing meteorically at the moment) to model a community's expansion after.

The biggest problem imo, is the number of moving parts. FFR is a robust game with a very efficient presentation and number of features and a pretty close-knit community. I would call it streamlined. It also doesn't really benefit from page hits. Introducing FB elements into it would just make everything messy (both coding and interface-wise), needlessly complex, and less manageable. It's not going to do anything for FFR that something like updating the Kong engine wouldn't do much better.

Also, the kind of people who are impressed by Farmville aren't the kind who appreciate skill curves. FB isn't a gaming community. It's a place for Jenny McDuckface to post images of herself at bars pretending to make out with her female friends while blitzed. Not everyone uses it for that, but that's basically its THING. Never mind which outcome is most LIKELY, I think people are even overestimating the best-case scenario right off the bat.

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There's a reason we have a +1 on Google+ feature instead of a "like on Facebook", I'm supposing.

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I didn't even realize that FFR was on Kongregate, someone should definitely update this so the engine actually LOADS! Perhaps it would be a better idea to put FFR out on more sites that are centrally focused around gaming to get a better turn out.

Although just because it could be submitted to such gaming sites, doesn't mean it can't also be submitted to Facebook as well. Obviously Facebook is more social media oriented than it is gaming oriented (and it's games are typically boring easy time wasters). That doesn't mean there aren't people who would appreciate this game on Facebook, just about every kind of person uses that site I would imagine. Sure Jenny McDuckface seems to be the main thing that is seen by those who see Facebook at a glance, but who's to say Rudy McRhythm doesn't find a new game to play because he ran out of stuff to do on Rockband? The worst case scenario is that it doesn't attract nearly as many people as expected, which could be substituted by other gaming sites that FFR could be presented on.

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I agree with all of you but especially foxfire, he said that facebook apps try to incoorporate a money system where virtual money is involved, well I was suggestiong something along the lines of a complex widget that allows you to save scores and have MP access, after all FFR is "non-profit" from what I have seen. I think FFR will be the only legit facebook app that is absolutely free. This will definitely attract more people. Tetris Battle may be fun, but they are always advertising "buy tetris cash today at 50% off!". It would really be nice but arguments would arise like the ones mentioned in this thread like : "Which engine to put" or "Velocity won't do it" . But I have to remind everyone that this is the suggestions thread.

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But you're looking at it from the point of "we're going to modify FFR to bring in Facebook users"... What I was thinking was more along the lines of simply setting up an app page with the FFR engine and a modified songlist. Any new coding would simply be
1) setting up the page itself
2) perhaps setting up some kind of scores on facebook, or allowing people to create ffr accounts from facebook to register and save scores
That's really not all that much 'complex and less manageable' in terms of additional coding. FFR wouldn't be catering to facebook aside from songlist and perhaps scores, if we even went that direction..

We do have a like on facebook button, load the main page and look in the left hand column right above prochat users

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we thought of ads but didn't feel like paying for ads was a good idea. Just advertising through friends would be highly effective though.

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I'm going to go ahead and give a great big "no" to this.

I can't say that I really like the whole connect up everything with Facebook direction things seem to be going. Wait it out and we might have something better in a few years anyway.

We need social networking which is under the user's control, not under corporate or government control. Instead of being the "product" with companies buying your data, you should have full control over it or at the very least they should give you a cut of the profits.

Zuckerberg has billions -- just think about that. Your information is profitable. Why shouldn't you get at least a cut of that? The guy isn't "nice" -- he's merely found a way to make major bucks exploiting everyone's info.

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I see what a lot of you guys are saying. I understand where both sides of the argument can be made. I, for one, am for the idea.

Don't think about it so "personally". The game goes on facebook with either a full song list or truncated, you add a purchase system so people can buy more songs or song packs, and you give them a link to post their new high scores on their time line. Where is the down side?

If we think about it in math terms. Say we get 1 million people to play the game on facebook. 20% decide to buy song(s)/packs and another 20% decide to continue on with their new addiction. We don't link FFR to facebook, but you give them the option to "Link" their accounts at signup to transfer over their current scores and what-not to their new user name. You add a small interface change to allow/hide facebook modifications, ie, "Post score to facebook" link, in the game and you call it a day. Say a pack of 50 songs is $5. You just made the site a million dollars (theoretically). You also just added 200000 people to the FFR community.

This way you are generating revenue for the site, you are adding to the sites populace, and you aren't infringing on what we already love.

If you are worried about adding non "quality" members, you shouldn't be. What happens when a regular joe joins the forums and doesn't fit in? He gets "shunned" from the community and he stops posting. The forums will iron themselves out. The "bad people" won't stick around and post and the "quality" members will.

I say its a win-win for us.

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I think FFR is a non-profit site.

Anyone: Weren't there some complaints by some artists about FFR somehow making revenue off songs themselves? This could be a touchy area.

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The vast majority of permissions from artists were granted under the understanding and condition that the site was non-profit and was not making any money from their music.

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We cannot make money out of the artists music it's not right thing to do

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I still agree with 87x with the exception of the profit portion. New users are new users, and he has a valid point overall. It's still a good idea even if we aren't making money off of it.

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So remove my money suggestion. The rest of it still applies. I support the idea.

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Holy shit 87x posted