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  • Reincarnate
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    • Nov 2010
    • 6332

    #46
    Re: Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

    Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
    This score is a realistic example of a run for me on RATO (since I did mash a little bit in this to keep combo), which is still an average of 28199.345 points per second.
    Yeah okay now do that for 15 hours. It's a lot harder to combo RATOmash than it is to combo vROFLmash with respect to the opening quads.

    Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
    Setting autofail to 1 miss and then missing at the place where I did (which was right at the start of the 8ths at the end, that part has low density and wastes time as well as the slow 192nds after) would optimize grandtotal. AAA'ing Lolo would only give around 22561.11 points per second if you AAA'd it every single time. It's basically comparing 812,200 in 36 seconds to 2,368,745 over 84 seconds (and that's only around 2.3 times the length of Lolo while giving almost TRIPLE the amount of points!)
    Again, though, you have to factor in the human element of stamina. That's like saying "Oh, look at how fast my average lap is. At this rate I can run 120 miles in X time." Milking a decent points/second gain out of RATO is going to have a much harder strain on your hands. Adamaja was able to do it with vROFL because it doesn't require a lot of strain to actually mash out a decent gain with minimal boo offset. Even THAT hurts after a few hours. And if you're actually PLAYING files to minimize boo offset, you're going to tire out hard or start sucking in terms of PA.

    Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
    Also Marcus, that player would show up on the daily game statistics and would get noticed. I'd imagine a lot of guys using some bot to do this for them, which is why the idea is laughable in the first place
    Herp derp, of course it's going to show up. 1.5 billion points in a day is laughable in the first place. There's absolutely no way anyone is going to be able to do this legitimately.

    Much better off going for 50 bil GTS, which btw is equally retarded because the top GTS guy is at 43k, and the interval drops by 25% once you hit rank 16 -- and most of those guys already have vROFL anyway.

    This is not really making vROFL any easier to achieve than it was before. It's still pretty much going to be impossible. Playing normally, the average song has a bit under 10,000 points/second. That means, again playing normally, you can expect to need about 58 days of straight arrowsmashing to generate 50 billion points. Divvy that up based on how much you play per day and adjust the average step figure by what range of difficulties you play.

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    • omega_grunt666
      Nescio quid faciam
      • Jul 2004
      • 894

      #47
      Re: Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

      Should be given to people who have been members for 7+ Years!

      Please?

      xD

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      • kjwkjw
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        • Sep 2007
        • 2585

        #48
        Re: Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

        Originally posted by xXAll-ProXx
        I'll just wait a few years for my GT to go past 50 bill.
        Probably this


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        • ScarletSky
          FFR Veteran
          • Jan 2011
          • 1811

          #49
          Re: Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

          Going for it on Sunday. >:3
          Would do it tomorrow but I'm gonna be gone tomorrow. So sunday it's a whorefest for me. Shouldn't be too hard. (I think. xP)

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          • Plan_Bsk81127
            snooches
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2007
            • 6420

            #50
            Re: Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

            I dont have the patience to do the 1.5 bil in a day, I get bored of FFR too easily.

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            • ~Zeta~
              Flag Master
              • Oct 2010
              • 2156

              #51
              Re: Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

              Gonna say it now,

              all of you that are going to try for 1.5 billion in one day are going to fail.

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              • GHEZ119
                FFR Player
                • Jan 2009
                • 65

                #52
                Re: Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

                Is it bad that I still can't mash FC Lolo? >_> Always get 1 or 2 stupid misses.

                Attempting to mash FC the beginning bit of RATO like Dossar said would probably be more efficient/easier. :B

                Or just mash FC'ing Lolo 'till I miss and failing out, w/e.

                Hmm, might give this a go. :3

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                • Reincarnate
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6332

                  #53
                  Re: Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

                  It's not even a matter of patience -- even if you had the patience, getting 1.5 bil in a day still requires a shitload of pointgain and a shitload of stamina that I don't think people will be able to leverage without vROFL or getting multiple friends to mash on the same account or taking turns.

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                  • debit13
                    FFR Player
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 201

                    #54
                    Re: Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

                    Matching vROFL's NPS in any other song is practically impossible without killing your hands -- the beginning alone is over 20 tps, but it's easily doable as 8th hands. Not sure if this is mathematically possible to obtain with any other song.

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                    • DossarLX ODI
                      Batch Manager
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15004

                      #55
                      Re: Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

                      lol Rubix, you should've seen the days I was whoring RATO while trying to achieve certain milestones like 245 and such - I did it for hours and I was fine.

                      For most players though that would probably be a problem, but with my stepmania scores.... I have the stamina to do this, just not the internet connection or time haha (my connection derps hard sometimes, preventing scores from recording)

                      Also AJ, if you really were mashing that hard on any other file (even RATO) you'd get a shit ton of averages and boos and your score would suck (and you'd boo out lmao). It would just be better to do something like Lolo in between for breaks.
                      Originally posted by hi19hi19
                      oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                      • flashpantss
                        Party Hard
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 1310

                        #56
                        Re: Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

                        Originally posted by Reincarnate
                        It's not even a matter of patience -- even if you had the patience, getting 1.5 bil in a day still requires a shitload of pointgain and a shitload of stamina that I don't think people will be able to leverage without vROFL or getting multiple friends to mash on the same account or taking turns.
                        Exactly this. After about 5 hours, doing the same thing over and over would make me tired. It would be almost impossible for me to get get PA every time.

                        Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                        lol Rubix, you should've seen the days I was whoring RATO while trying to achieve certain milestones like 245 and such - I did it for hours and I was fine.
                        Thats because you are a freak of nature.
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                        • Sprite-
                          HAVE ME WITH VODKA
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 7317

                          #57
                          Re: Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

                          Please, please, PLEASE do not go for the 1.5 bil in a day because when you fail, you will be insanely pissed off at how close you were and how much time you just wasted..lmao

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                          • Reincarnate
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 6332

                            #58
                            Re: Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

                            Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                            lol Rubix, you should've seen the days I was whoring RATO while trying to achieve certain milestones like 245 and such - I did it for hours and I was fine.
                            I am well aware of your stamina, but I am declaring right now -- I don't think you could whore RATO for 15+ hours with the average score necessary to hit 1.5 billion. Stamina is a very exponential thing. You might be fine for a few hours, but eventually your hands go from "Hey, this is great" to "Holy shit remember when I had tendons?!" mode in no time at all, and it makes the rest of the mash-session a hugely painful endeavor.

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                            • DossarLX ODI
                              Batch Manager
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                              • Mar 2008
                              • 15004

                              #59
                              Re: Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

                              .....which is why you'd take breaks in between with Lolo, haha - it would be more organized and efficient to take breaks around a few minutes whether it would have to be using the bathroom or whatever. You have the full 24 hours, it doesn't have to be finished in 16 XD

                              You are right that RATO for that amount of time wouldn't even be worth it, it would just turn into a worse situation than if I did Lolo the entire time instead.
                              Originally posted by hi19hi19
                              oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                              • Reincarnate
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 6332

                                #60
                                Re: Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

                                Missin' the point, man. 1.5 billion was doable with vROFL because of easy of quadding AND a relatively high perfect+good to boo ratio AND a sick TPS. Even then, it took Adamaja 21 hours with just a few short breaks. Trying to do it with Lolo (let alone RATO) is not going to happen. Anything other than lazymash for that length of time is going to kill you. You don't "take breaks with Lolo" -- after a certain point, anything other than lazymash will kill your hands.
                                Last edited by Reincarnate; 06-25-2011, 07:38 AM.

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