Does your gender or sex define you?

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  • fido123
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2005
    • 4245

    #46
    Re: Does your gender or sex define you?

    Originally posted by Rubin0
    It's also difficult to NOT be offensive (even if unintentionally) when you have very little to absolutely no knowledge about a topic but have already formed an opinion about it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and as long as they are not being outwardly and purposely aggressive about it, then I let people stew in their own ignorance.
    Problem is people don't understand what an opinion is:


    Originally posted by Google
    Definitions of opinion on the Web:

    a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty
    Instead most people make assumptions and wave them around as if they were opinions making them total idiots.


    On the topic of the thread, I think gender and sex defines us all of us. Hormones play a large part in the way we think, view things and feel. I think because of this alone nobody can say gender doesn't play a role in how we're defined.

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    • Rubin0
      FFR Player
      • Jun 2006
      • 1276

      #47
      Re: Does your gender or sex define you?

      I would start a nature versus nurture argument but I feel like it would be beating a dead horse.
      The weight of what I say depends on how you feel.

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      • Kilroy_x
        Little Chief Hare
        • Mar 2005
        • 783

        #48
        Re: Does your gender or sex define you?

        32 users would be better suited as sausage filling than people (editors note: it's the people who voted no)
        Last edited by Kilroy_x; 02-14-2011, 08:31 AM.

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        • fido123
          FFR Player
          • Sep 2005
          • 4245

          #49
          Re: Does your gender or sex define you?

          Telling everybody their wrong and you're right when people are offering educated opinions just makes you look completely and utterly retarded. Just sayin'

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          • Kilroy_x
            Little Chief Hare
            • Mar 2005
            • 783

            #50
            Re: Does your gender or sex define you?

            "educated"?

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            • Rubin0
              FFR Player
              • Jun 2006
              • 1276

              #51
              Re: Does your gender or sex define you?

              Originally posted by fido123
              Problem is people don't understand what an opinion is:

              Did you read that incorrectly?

              "a personal belief or judgment that is NOT founded on proof or certainty"
              The weight of what I say depends on how you feel.

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              • fido123
                FFR Player
                • Sep 2005
                • 4245

                #52
                Re: Does your gender or sex define you?

                lol looks like I did. Regardless an opinion that's not based off any knowledge or reason is worthless.

                Also Kilroy, would you like to tell us why you're opinion is superior to all others? I would perhaps take you seriously if you offered proof while bashing other opinions I'd perhaps listen to you but you just tell people they're wrong and stupid without really giving any sort. I'm not sure if you're "trolling" or just really pissy because you have some sort of deep-seeded feelings with these kinds of topics.

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                • Rubin0
                  FFR Player
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 1276

                  #53
                  Re: Does your gender or sex define you?

                  I would also like to point out that while many people on this forum really have no idea what they are talking about in regards to sex and gender, I appreciate that people are trying or are even taking the time to think about it long enough to respond to posts like these. I don't know many males "IRL" that like to discuss the topic of gender or sexuality. The critical thinking section is filled with topics about sexuality, gender, men versus women, etc.
                  Last edited by Rubin0; 02-13-2011, 11:54 PM.
                  The weight of what I say depends on how you feel.

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                  • Kilroy_x
                    Little Chief Hare
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 783

                    #54
                    Re: Does your gender or sex define you?

                    Originally posted by fido123
                    Also Kilroy, would you like to tell us why you're opinion is superior to all others?
                    Because I'm literally the only person here who knows what they're talking about? I have direct experience with said subject. Other people do not. Nobody else here has firsthand experience with having a physical sex incongruent to ones gender. THAT'S KIND OF A BIG DEAL.

                    Originally posted by fido123
                    I would perhaps take you seriously if you offered proof while bashing other opinions I'd perhaps listen to you but you just tell people they're wrong and stupid without really giving any sort.
                    I have given reason repeatedly. See above.

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                    • Rubin0
                      FFR Player
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 1276

                      #55
                      Re: Does your gender or sex define you?

                      Originally posted by Kilroy_x
                      Nobody else here has firsthand experience with having a physical sex incongruent to ones gender.

                      How can you even make that kind of assumption?
                      The weight of what I say depends on how you feel.

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                      • Kilroy_x
                        Little Chief Hare
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 783

                        #56
                        Re: Does your gender or sex define you?

                        Originally posted by Rubin0
                        How can you even make that kind of assumption?
                        Well it's a sound bet at least, considering most estimates put TG people at 2% of the population at most. Assuming a sample size of as many people as voted, ie 63, we would expect that most likely one TG person would be posting here, IE me. If not then at most there are one or two others. Not like we'd find out because I doubt they would out themselves.

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                        • Rubin0
                          FFR Player
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 1276

                          #57
                          Re: Does your gender or sex define you?

                          Just because a person does not identify as TG does not mean that at some point in their life they have not felt congruent to their sex.
                          Last edited by Rubin0; 02-14-2011, 08:20 AM.
                          The weight of what I say depends on how you feel.

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                          • Kilroy_x
                            Little Chief Hare
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 783

                            #58
                            Re: Does your gender or sex define you?

                            Meaning what exactly? Be specific. That could mean multiple things.

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                            • Rubin0
                              FFR Player
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 1276

                              #59
                              Re: Does your gender or sex define you?

                              Meaning that just like many if not most people are sexually confused at some point in their lives, many people may have gender identity issues. I myself have always had severe difficulty falling into the role of a "woman" in society. I have even felt physically awkward in my own feminine body at many times in my life. I have made it very clear to myself and to my family that I will not be wearing dresses or feminine clothing anymore because on a physical and emotional level, I can't do it. However, I don't identify as transgendered. I would say I am leaning towards more on the androgynous side. I don't think this means that I can't relate to you on any level. I think most people can, but most people are too scared to admit it or don't know themselves well enough to even realize what they are feeling.
                              The weight of what I say depends on how you feel.

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                              • fido123
                                FFR Player
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 4245

                                #60
                                Re: Does your gender or sex define you?

                                I actually know 3 TG people (and somebody who wants to go through with it although only over the internet), and have discussed this kind of stuff in depth as I find it pretty interesting. One of them is a major figure in the Toronto LGBT community. My girlfriend also doesn't feel congruent with her gender although doesn't want to be TG at all. I base my opinion off what these people have told me, keeping in mind I've only talked to a small sample of the TG population. Assuming nobody knows that they're talking about is pretty retarded.

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