Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

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  • TC_Cyrenics
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    • Jan 2009
    • 963

    #16
    Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

    Once again Chris pulls the win meter.

    Thanks for making me feel so much better about my recent missteps in the stepman world, bro.
    Originally posted by kaiten123
    wow, you were bs before i knew what stepmania was

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    • kommisar
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      • Jun 2005
      • 7328

      #17
      Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

      that's too easy

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      • WTFBrandon
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        • Mar 2007
        • 1387

        #18
        Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

        Looks like Otaku Dream files.
        Cool
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        • gnr61
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          • Oct 2005
          • 7251

          #19
          Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

          theres only an error in a simfile if you **** up something you were trying to do (eg. trying to layer every bass drum as a 1 note but forgetting one (read: not omitting)). :stepfile subjectivitay:

          i'm sure the chart is terrible--the song sure is--but the vid hurt my eyes and i couldn't tell what was happening haha.
          squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

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          • kommisar[os]
            Banned
            • Apr 2006
            • 4097

            #20
            Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

            there's a bunch of errors if conforming to the structure given by 90% of people who make files here

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            • gnr61
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              • Oct 2005
              • 7251

              #21
              Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

              i didn't realize he was trying to conform to the structure used by 90% of the people here o.0

              do you realize the pejorative implications of calling anything that doesn't even try to adhere to some preconceived notion of how such-and-such should be done an "error?"

              : rehashes arguments :
              : plays king of the sea card :
              squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

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              • Patashu
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                • Apr 2006
                • 8609

                #22
                Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

                Originally posted by gnr61
                theres only an error in a simfile if you **** up something you were trying to do (eg. trying to layer every bass drum as a 1 note but forgetting one (read: not omitting)). :stepfile subjectivitay:

                i'm sure the chart is terrible--the song sure is--but the vid hurt my eyes and i couldn't tell what was happening haha.
                moral relativism
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                • kommisar
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                  • Jun 2005
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                  #23
                  Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

                  well puppet why do you think everyone judges the same


                  pr this



                  layering that





                  INCONSISTENCY




                  when playing files everyone that makes files has the same idea of how a file should be made. this is thanks to years of people making files a certain way and it becoming the more popular way to make files.

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                  • gnr61
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 7251

                    #24
                    Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

                    ok sure except that

                    a) -not- everybody judges the same--only people who are incapable of doing otherwise or, say, ffr judges who are required to judge that way. and

                    b) -not- everyone has the same idea of what makes a good file lmao how is it even possible to think this

                    neither PR, layering, nor consistency intrinsically add -any- quality to a file. in fact, you'll notice files that adhere to all of these things all the time tend to come out, by today's standards, exceedingly dull. if breaking from the "rules" adds ANYTHING to the file, then why is it a rule and how can you possibly justify calling it an error?

                    is for seasons (dcmp) completely ridden with inconsistencies and pitch relevance errors? of course not because those things weren't applied strictly to the file and it ended up being much more entertaining/expressive than, say for seasons (dcp1). if everyone judged the way you say they do and had the same ideas of what was a good file, that chart would never have seen the light of day.

                    of course this all applies to 4key as we know it today, especially. you can't get away with pumping out assembly line files now because IT'S BEEN DONE 10,000 TIMES. idk much about solo stepping so i doubt its reached that point plus theres far more room for variation with 6keys even within straight layering/pr exercises

                    is that long that seems a little long o well
                    squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

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                    • buizel8888
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1536

                      #25
                      Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

                      thats p. much the general idea and is why most people are switching to solo
                      <%SSH|Korysar> does anyone else watch pornos for the soundtrack
                      <Mehified> No offense to you tho xd
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                      <+lurker> if i want porno music
                      <+lurker> i'll listen to the sonic 3 ost
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                      • kommisar
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                        • Jun 2005
                        • 7328

                        #26
                        Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

                        done 10,000 times





                        this is why i don't stepman seriously anymore. weren't you the technical perfectionist?

                        though i would agree with you that today's standards are pretty dumb, seeing as how most files played are still from 2004

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                        • gnr61
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                          • Oct 2005
                          • 7251

                          #27
                          Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

                          Originally posted by kommisar
                          done 10,000 times





                          this is why i don't stepman seriously anymore. weren't you the technical perfectionist?
                          what

                          though i would agree with you that today's standards are pretty dumb, seeing as how most files played are still from 2004
                          pretty cynical, i'd say that since all the old dogs have pretty much quit the remaining scoring players are open minded about simfiles and play a lot of recent stuff. and i never said today's standards were dumb o.0
                          squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

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                          • kommisar
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                            • Jun 2005
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                            #28
                            Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

                            Originally posted by gnr61
                            exceedingly dull.
                            i read that as dumb



                            Originally posted by gnr61
                            what


                            i meant you pretty much follow every written rule of simfile making to the letter (thus the list of theories we worked on in dcp forums)


                            point is, the simfile in this video is garbage and doesn't follow any kind of structure or consistency, thus takes out most of the fun out of it and becomes apparent that it's of lesser quality
                            Last edited by kommisar; 12-3-2009, 09:17 AM.

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                            • gnr61
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                              • Oct 2005
                              • 7251

                              #29
                              Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

                              Originally posted by kommisar
                              i read that as dumb
                              did you seriously read that sentence as "today's standards are pretty dumb"?? i recommend backtracking a couple clauses



                              i am 100% sure that passage is "technically" grossly inaccurate. you're seeing something difficult and assuming it's technical overindulgence when i'm fairly certain the polyrhythms are neither rhythmically precise (they might be but it would be for sheer luck lmao) nor anything approaching pitch relevant so bad example

                              you SHOULD have posted chipscape or cccp or some other 2 year old dump :P

                              edit:
                              i meant you pretty much follow every written rule of simfile making to the letter (thus the list of theories we worked on in dcp forums)
                              i may have a misplaced sense of my own stepman "signature" but i would hope that (and think that) this isn't true. though if i have indeed been pumping out generic dondons for all this time then i apologize for my lack of ingenuity, i'll try to make cooler stuff in the future :P

                              point is, the simfile in this video is garbage and doesn't follow any kind of structure or consistency, thus takes out most of the fun out of it and becomes apparent that it's of lesser quality
                              this is fair enough (i've never played a QED file). the middle ground we should aim for is that pr and whatnot are fine guidelines and expressive TOOLS and TECHNIQUES, not requisite characteristics of every quality file; otherwise you denounce a whole world of pretty much -all- the best simfiles ever made
                              Last edited by gnr61; 12-3-2009, 09:29 AM.
                              squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

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                              • buizel8888
                                FFR Player
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 1536

                                #30
                                Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

                                careful puppet. keep it up and you may get labeled as a QED fanboy hehehe
                                <%SSH|Korysar> does anyone else watch pornos for the soundtrack
                                <Mehified> No offense to you tho xd
                                <@Alive> i misunderstood the meaning of shiney instruments and he tole me to calm down
                                <+lurker> if i want porno music
                                <+lurker> i'll listen to the sonic 3 ost
                                <%SSH|Korysar> LMFAO
                                <sjoecool1991> ahaha

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