My album is done !! <3

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  • Erothyme
    FFR Player
    • Jan 2008
    • 2033

    #31
    Re: My album is done !! &lt;3

    I would review this, but you wouldn't be happy about it.

    Not too shabby overall, though. Just not professional.

    Good to see a bunch of people around here digging the IDM, though.


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    • OrganisM
      FFR Player
      • Oct 2006
      • 2644

      #32
      Re: My album is done !! &lt;3

      I'm sure constructive criticism would be welcome. What's your definition of "professional"? Are you speaking about the production?
      .

      Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
      "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
      because the venom gets into the blood stream which
      spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
      changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

      Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


      Originally Posted by
      MrRubix[link]:
      "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

      Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
      "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

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      • who_cares973
        FFR Player
        • Aug 2006
        • 15407

        #33
        Re: My album is done !! &lt;3

        my phone doesn't like rars so I can't download it right now ;_;


        will download and cream myself when I find an internet connection to leech off of

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        • Erothyme
          FFR Player
          • Jan 2008
          • 2033

          #34
          Re: My album is done !! &lt;3

          Originally posted by OrganisM
          I'm sure constructive criticism would be welcome. What's your definition of "professional"? Are you speaking about the production?
          He asked me that in a PM. This is what I said.

          Originally posted by Me
          No problem, man. And I don't mean to insult you in any way; you clearly put a lot of work into this. The issue is mostly just a want of more experience.

          The main problems are the dynamics. There's a lot of clipping, some drums are too loud, some are too soft. Sometimes the reverb, delay, etc. is too heavy and obvious. Things like that. Things that experienced producers notice which bug them.

          Other issues are things like... say, the strings. The issue there is... they sound reeeaaally fake, but not fake enough that it sounds like they're supposed to sound fake. More like it sounds like someone trying to get away with using a casio keyboard. If you really want to make moving orchestral music, you could seriously benefit from some careful sampling, soundfont usage, and maybe some better VSTs. (I have a good free strings one called DSK strings. Look it up. There are probably better ones too.) I know, it's a lot of work... but that's part of the point. For a producer, the way-clipped-out rage of the amens over wimpy quiet synth strings with attack phases too long for their own good was kind of laughable, situationally. And when the amens dropped abruptly, the strings chords felt utterly uncompelling in comparison due to their lack of power; they fail to envelope you, they fail to convince and influence you. It's an issue, but just a prominent example. :V

          Most people don't really pick up these things and it therefore makes little difference to them, but if you sent this stuff to Benn Jordan, he surely would find it quite amateur. Not to say he necessarily would dislike it, just that he would be able to tell you have a ways to go.

          Still though, you've come a long way on this uphill battle. Everything will make more sense as you progress. Don't get discouraged, you have a lot of skill. You mostly need to work on your craftsmanship and execution. I hope this helped. Hope I didn't sound snotty.


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          • robertsona
            missa in h-moll
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Dec 2006
            • 4000

            #35
            Re: My album is done !! &lt;3

            Normally I would instantly flame someone like Ero because I really like nubbin's music but that was well-thought-out and actually made good points that I haven't even noticed before :X.

            So, uh good job haha.

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            • Erothyme
              FFR Player
              • Jan 2008
              • 2033

              #36
              Re: My album is done !! &lt;3

              I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade here. :V

              There are definitely some sick ideas in this album, and a lot of very poignant musical moments. I just wouldn't try to put this on the market or anything like that.


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              • who_cares973
                FFR Player
                • Aug 2006
                • 15407

                #37
                Re: My album is done !! &lt;3

                on my laptop stealing interwebs



                downloading now

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                • OrganisM
                  FFR Player
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 2644

                  #38
                  Re: My album is done !! &lt;3

                  Originally posted by Erothyme
                  I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade here. :V

                  There are definitely some sick ideas in this album, and a lot of very poignant musical moments. I just wouldn't try to put this on the market or anything like that.
                  I agree with what you've said fully, and that's kind of what I was alluding to with speaking about presets. The strings also bothered me in particular.
                  .

                  Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
                  "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
                  because the venom gets into the blood stream which
                  spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
                  changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

                  Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


                  Originally Posted by
                  MrRubix[link]:
                  "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

                  Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
                  "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

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                  • Erothyme
                    FFR Player
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2033

                    #39
                    Re: My album is done !! &lt;3

                    Yeah. Those strings sound like stereotypical FL default-fare. Doesn't matter what he used, that's what it sounds like.


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                    • nubbin149
                      FFR Player
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • May 2005
                      • 303

                      #40
                      Re: My album is done !! &lt;3

                      Then, I must have really ****ed up somewhere, because I was using EastWest symphonic Orchestra. now THAT is discouraging. when I can take the most professional sounding orchestral vst and make it sound like crap.

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                      • Erothyme
                        FFR Player
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 2033

                        #41
                        Re: My album is done !! &lt;3

                        It's not that you made it sound like crap. It sounds to me like it's intended for something other than what you used it for. It doesn't sound like an orchestra. It might be a great strings sound for string swells or for some string lead in a mix or something, but a patch of it isn't going to sound like a great orchestra. Instead it sounds flatlined.

                        The thing is that real strings-playing is expressive. The notes are all played a little differently. It's not like piano-roll sequencing.

                        You definitely seem to be influenced by Rossz Csillag Alatt Szulettet. Take a closer listen to the use of strings in that album and hear how dynamic and expressive it is. You will understand, I promise.


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                        • nubbin149
                          FFR Player
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • May 2005
                          • 303

                          #42
                          Re: My album is done !! &lt;3

                          I appreciate that but all of the strings on that album are sampled from orchestral recordings. Szamar madar is a full rip of elgars cello concierto that's not his vsts. But I hear what you're saying. But not all of my songs had strings in them

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                          • Erothyme
                            FFR Player
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 2033

                            #43
                            Re: My album is done !! &lt;3

                            Originally posted by nubbin149
                            I appreciate that but all of the strings on that album are sampled from orchestral recordings. Szamar madar is a full rip of elgars cello concierto that's not his vsts. But I hear what you're saying. But not all of my songs had strings in them
                            My Downfall OST was original compositions, from what I understand.

                            Nothing wrong with sampling live strings. Nothing wrong with soundfonts, etc.

                            Nothing wrong with just using a VST, either. The problem is that the VST is standing alone and being used as the sole focus for a while and just doesn't compel like it could.


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                            • Erothyme
                              FFR Player
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 2033

                              #44
                              Re: My album is done !! &lt;3

                              Seriously though, the reason I'm saying all this is because this shit has serious potential that isn't being fully realized. I'm not trying to completely bash on it, just saying that you could feasibly do much better.

                              Pressure turns coal into diamonds and all that.


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                              • OrganisM
                                FFR Player
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 2644

                                #45
                                Re: My album is done !! &lt;3

                                I think the compositions are great. I just also think that perhaps to make it have a finished feel, you need to work on mixing/production a little more to give your sounds texture and life. I'm learning to do the very same thing myself.
                                .

                                Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
                                "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
                                because the venom gets into the blood stream which
                                spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
                                changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

                                Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


                                Originally Posted by
                                MrRubix[link]:
                                "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

                                Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
                                "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

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