Ingame Song Information

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

i think the song victims and martyrs should be difficult not very difficult

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

VAM is 4/6 for 8ths jumping jacks, my unofficial nickname for patterns like this:

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You say, so what? I say, oh yes! Play Rebirth0's Love Tropicana Final on SM. What if Rebirth0 put that file in FFR? There'd be like 100 3 framers in that file.

Besides, it takes one misstep to lose a combo. Remember that.

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I demand Jimerax to update this. It's been months.

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Dawn should definitely not be a very difficult. It has 793 arrows spaced out over 3.5 minutes and none of the patterns are particularly difficult. Pylons and Kagami are definitely a lot harder (both are rated difficult).

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

ViennaCore isn't a VC even with runningmen and one handed trills.

Unless there's some trick there: ViennaCore, VC, Very Challenging, VC.

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I'm kind of pissed off that this hasn't been updated in living memory.....

Jimerax, I really hope you have a good excuse. :-/

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

No, Dawn isn't far off enough to make a dramatic change like a drop in the Chardish system. Dawn has a good deal of quarter note sections, but remember, Dawn has 16th jump-patterns. Since the only thing that makes Dawn hard is the jumps, I'd bet Dawn could be 49-51.

EDIT: Pylons is hard because it's offsync.

Kagami is nothing but a fuzzy blur in my mind, so I can't really comment on that.

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

1. I mostly trust Tass' difficulty rating.
2. lately I don't play the game much, especially newer song. plus I don't have much time.
3. This is only important when we determine the order of the songs in the same genre.
4. honestly I really want someone to make a list with the same format, then I'll do a minor fix and update this thread.

This is a list of what I've done.
Add easy skill tokens, genre, and fill in the blank. Disscuss the dificulty here if it's needed.

[Regular/Subscriber]
The World As We Know It (726 Notes / BPM 160) - 44
Killer Dance Floor (521 Notes / BPM 140) - 25
Free Space (FFR Edit) (59 Notes / BPM 141) - 01
Speed Kitty (425 Notes / BPM 161) - 36
Hatten Carnival! (640 Notes / BPM 172) - 56
FFR (360 Notes / BPM 113) - 36
July (724 Notes / BPM 171) - 50
Prison Break (1018 Notes / BPM 141) - 54
Dokudenpa (1600 Notes / BPM 188) - 68
Szamar Madar (1094 Notes / BPM 174) - 72
PARANOiA ~Darkness Mix~ (582 Notes / BPM 172) - 33
State of Emergency (784 Notes / BPM 191) - 69
Cosmic Orchestra (1590 Notes / BPM 150) - 72
Trisection ( Notes / BPM ) -
Secrets and Lies ( Notes / BPM ) - 62
Mute City Remix ( Notes / BPM ) - 66
Mocha Ocean ( Notes / BPM ) -
bbblow ( Notes / BPM ) -
Never Look Back ( Notes / BPM ) -
AAA (1038 Notes / BPM ) - 65
-Y ( Notes / BPM ) -
Infinite Blue ( Notes / BPM ) -
Tambourin Chinois (676 Notes / BPM 160) - 68

Driveway [Heavy] (1067 Notes / BPM 213) -
Jump In (527 Notes / BPM 115) -
Roses and Butterflies [Heavy] (1190 Notes / BPM 169) -
Driveway [Standard] (934 Notes / BPM 213) -
Roses and Butterflies [Standard] (826 Notes / BPM 169) -
Driveway [Light] (332 Notes / BPM 213) -
Red Dress [Heavy] ( Notes / BPM ) -
Red Dress [Light] ( Notes / BPM ) -
Amity ( Notes / BPM ) -
Goodbye, My Love ( Notes / BPM ) -
The Space Between ( Notes / BPM ) -
5 Black Skulls ( Notes / BPM ) -

[Skill Token]
V1 (610 Notes / BPM 148) - 45
Destiny v2 (1269 Notes / BPM 175) - 59
Emotions V2 (607 Notes / BPM 140) - 41
Calm (Short 'n' Slow Mix) (286 Notes / BPM 78) - 14
Tribal Style (538 Notes / BPM 138) - 39
Battle Ax (902 Notes / BPM 160) - 66
So Long To The Circus (972 Notes / BPM 171) - 44
Lift Up (795 Notes / BPM 140) - 46
Zephon (979 Notes / BPM 179) - 62
Ninjitsu (314 Notes / BPM 160) - 23
P8107 (1188 Notes / BPM 180) - 68
R3 (Omega Mix) (689 Notes / BPM 165) - 59
Exotica (636 Notes / BPM 118) - 56
Syage (1038 Notes / BPM 180) - 64
Judgement Days (1238 Notes / BPM 190) - 73
Crow Song (563 Notes / BPM 140) -
Liquid Moon (492 Notes / BPM 160) -
Angelic Layer (980 Notes / BPM 146) -
All of the World (388 Notes / BPM 143) -
{Midnight} (953 Notes / BPM 200) - 74
Party 4 U v3 (623 Notes / BPM 159) -
Starman (506 Notes / BPM 150) -
Nippon Zenkoku GABA Ondo (378 Notes / BPM 131) -
Frozen Bond (348 Notes / BPM 125) -
EternuS (1194 Notes / BPM 140) -
The Pylons Are TRAP BALLS (550 Notes / BPM 138) -
Heavy Danger (457 Notes / BPM 140) -
What-ever (586 Notes / BPM 155) -
{Satori} v2 (757 Notes / BPM 110) - 58
lolharp5000 (632 Notes / BPM 200) - 74
Dawn (793 Notes / BPM 138) -
Color of Giggles (827 Notes / BPM 200) - 69
Dance To Moroder (560 Notes / BPM 140) - 25
Angel Stays On This Ground (508 Notes / BPM 154) -
CAULI FLOWER (777 Notes / BPM 120) -
~Absolute Zero~ (825 Notes / BPM 140) - 50
Otaku Speedvibe [Heavy] (1049 Notes / BPM 212) - 72
Otaku Speedvibe [Oni] (1396 Notes / BPM 212) - 84
Three Ring Nightfall (655 Notes / BPM 120) - 33
Clash at the Mountains (758 Notes / BPM 126) -
Disconnected (360 Notes / BPM 200) -
Story of Snowman and Sunshine Girl v2 (817 Notes / BPM 142) -
ViennaCore (684 Notes / BPM 180) - 68
Love Cheat! (2194 Notes / BPM 195) - 73
PLANETZ (1166 Notes / BPM 190) - 76
{Sunlight} (1148 Notes / BPM 140) -
Binary Rendezvous (674 Notes / BPM 190) -
LunaMarionette (887 Notes / BPM 180) -
Abyss (Downbeat Mix) (511 Notes / BPM 90) -
Mou Uta Shika Kikoenai (1271 Notes / BPM 162) - 69
Incognito v2 (376 Notes / BPM 150) - 35
Chinaman (698 Notes / BPM 136) - 47
Sail AwaY (900 Notes / BPM 169) - 58
Stunt Flying (Sanxion7 Mix) (940 Notes / BPM 142)
Prelude to Rites (258 Notes / BPM 150) - 32
Cold Breath (865 Notes / BPM 200) - 71
Disconnected -mobius- (817 Notes / BPM 175) - 64
Made In Innocent (627 Notes / BPM 120) - 58
Kyuin (2028 Notes / BPM 195) - 75
Distant Land (1024 Notes / BPM 147) - 60
Hatten Carnival! v2 (817 Notes / BPM 172) - 27
Melonmans OP (817 Notes / BPM 200) - 79
{Colossus} (817 Notes / BPM 140-166) -
MaxX AttaxX (817 Notes / BPM 155) - 53
The Five (1015 Notes / BPM 160) - 64

[Token]
Bike Thief (989 Notes / BPM 167) - 49
Kagami (872 Notes / BPM 147) - 48
Sunny Star Carnival (930 Notes / BPM 110) - 67
Kakke Ecko (870 Notes / BPM 192) - 74

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Ah, good, I just wanted to lol very hard at satori v2 being rated challenging, but I see it got 58 now...still high I think, cause there are no extended streams, jacks, fast jumps, rythmical difficulties etc...its easier than the lower rated satori v1 and easy even for a very difficult song in my opinion.

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Satori v2 has 16th jacks and 32nd bursts, and maybe one or two strange rhythms, I can see why it's higher than Satori v1

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

the bursts are only minor and way easier than the annoying fast trills of v1. Maybe you are right technically because there are some difficulties in it, but then again, there are insane jacks even in some easy songs (100 bar blackout, I think ingenuity) and the same goes for the 32nd notes.

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Satori V2 is high-8(close to 9), harder than V1. trills in V1 aren't that fast.

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Judgement Days (1238 Notes / BPM 190) - 73

Why is Judgment Days so high up? It should be at max, a 70. If you need a reason, compare it to Aztec Templing and Unknown Girl. Aztec could almost be HARDER than Judgment because of the unmerciful chain thingie around 590, which almost always fumble me up, and Unknown Girl has the long jumpstream, where as the longest jumpstream in Judgment are easy two-beat streams. Both have harder PA and harder FC than Judgment Days.

I should also take the moment to try and clarify All Of The World's place. A good fraction of the song is quarter note streams and eighth note streams. The ending is the only hard part.


33 (M) Ball of Malt (430 Notes / BPM 200)
34 (R) Until The End (448 Notes / BPM 110)
34 (A) Crystalis - House Leaves (Remix) (282 Notes / BPM 127)
(LOWEST AOTW COULD BE)
35 (F) Zodiac (583 Notes / BPM 107)
36 (A) Metalman Goes Clubbing (463 Notes / BPM 144)
(HIGHEST AOTW COULD BE)
36 (D) Parachute (stupid clowns) (469 Notes / BPM 160)
36 (F) Prototypical (845 Notes / BPM 133)
36 (F) Let Me Be Your Pirate (593 Notes / BPM 128)

I find AOTW strikingly similar to Parachute (36, 469 notes, BPM 160). Both are easy up to the end part. But Parachute has higher BPM and has more tricky sections. I'd say AOTW has to be below Zodiac, because Zodiac has much more 16ths and tricky patterns. But it's harder than Crystalis, so it would be good to place AOTW between Crystalis and Zodiac as HIGHEST 34.

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

a forum where i can find out song difficulties, awsome!

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Crow Song could be about a 30 to a 32.