TWG CXV - Game Voting~

[Brilliant Dynamite Neon]

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@BDN

if OC is allowed, why is there no night posting?

Old-time TWG religion. Essentially it is to raise activity on AIM (or Slack in this case) and forces commentary on the day's events into those OC channels. However, in a vanilla-ish game that's nearly 1/3rds wolf to start, I admit I don't see the utility of the latter purpose as no-one's going to be able to really trust anyone enough to run the little mini-gambits of old, so I can turn Night Posting on if you guys want.

if there's an insta, does the game go into twilight until the bomber makes a decision?

Yes.

might this game be slanted in favor of humans? I'm not sure at all, but that would be my biggest concern.

I don't think so, the wolf human ratio is really big and there's no flip on lynch. I might do a more thorough analysis, but I do recall that humans just barely win when they bomb a wolf every day.

also @BDN what's the exact win condition for wolves?

Wolves win when nothing can prevent them from wiping out the humans. Scenarios that would end in a tie I'm thinking to give to the wolves, but this is also negotiable.

Just FYI I will also be making slack groups and shiz 4 this game, it's gonna be fun!

[FictionJunction]

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I haven't played a game without night posting in a long time but I vaguely remember it being referred to as night talking, meaning you couldn't communicate at night through any medium.

[Brilliant Dynamite Neon]

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I haven't played a game without night posting in a long time but I vaguely remember it being referred to as night talking, meaning you couldn't communicate at night through any medium.

That's dumb, because it's essentially unenforceable and ripe for abuse, it can essentially give you the power to suicide bomb other players. This sort of thing never happened when I got into and it doesn't seem like it happened at all historically. During my tenure, all night posting off did was force everything to be on AIM, for the purpose of boosting activity therein, along with the stuff I mentioned before.

The thing about the manner of play back then (which is helpful to understand) is that outside communication that wasn't between wolves/masons was very strongly focused on 1v1 conversations. Communal chats weren't used very much, and when they did exist, you were lucky to find half the players on them. Furthermore, the events of the day were very useful points for discussion during the night, and as this was when the night choices were made, good townies would often play a little gambit with their views on things. For example, I remember someone discussed BSing people they viewed with suspicion after a lynch they saw as shitty, selected someone they trusted as an "anchor" to reveal their true feelings on the matter, and also picked someone they were unsure of to reveal their insights to. They also told that they did so to their anchor, so that if they died that night, the anchor could perhaps pressure that person if they thought they were a spooked wolf. This is just one example, but interpersonal plays like this went on all the time in old TWG.

Anyways, I'm rambling.

Any official feelings on the night posting matter, or other things about my game? < This goes for everyone else too.

[j-rodd123]

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it's not dumb, no night posting but allowing out of thread talk is just weird lol

[blindreper1179]

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I know I just started, but out of thread seems wrong? Night talking seems fine, as long as there isn't any scheming or voting.

[Brilliant Dynamite Neon]

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I know I just started, but out of thread seems wrong? Night talking seems fine, as long as there isn't any scheming or voting.

Yeah, this was way before your time. The standard format of games was "outside communication allowed + no cardflips" for the vast majority of FFR TWG's history. It's only within the last 1.5 years or so that people suddenly decided to be MafiaScum lite.

And obviously, there is no voting at night. But there is always scheming. All OC does is let you share some of that scheming and/or act it out earlier than normal.

it's not dumb, no night posting but allowing out of thread talk is just weird lol

I've already explained why people do it, although in this particular game, I will cede that I'm not sure it really makes sense.

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I'm calling for a popular vote on whether to allow night posting or not (and if my game doesn't run, I'll just apply that change and run it in the next signups)

[FictionJunction]

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uh, honor code - it may be up for abuse but what's the point of not letting people talk in the thread if they could say what they would in the thread over chat? That's dumb.

[FictionJunction]

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it's like saying DON'T USE YOUR CELLPHONES BUT FEEL FREE TO USE THIS LANDLINE

[Brilliant Dynamite Neon]

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You could try actually reading my posts, for one, if you're looking for a point.

And yes, I realize people aren't going to agree on the value of the mechanic. It's subjective. That's why I opened it up for a vote in the first place.

I mean you've already extended your middle finger in my general direction by using sheer starpower to get a (mostly) TGBuddy rushvote that's already knocked me out of first. I'm not sure what you have to gain by antagonizing me further.

Then again, I could just be paranoid (as comes with the territory.)

[Brilliant Dynamite Neon]

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my life is TWG and I am SK ;_;

EDIT: Sorry guys, I'll be less of an incoherent whiny bitch when I actually start sleeping properly -_-

[FictionJunction]

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You could try actually reading my posts, for one, if you're looking for a point.

And yes, I realize people aren't going to agree on the value of the mechanic. It's subjective. That's why I opened it up for a vote in the first place.

I mean you've already extended your middle finger in my general direction by using sheer starpower to get a (mostly) TGBuddy rushvote that's already knocked me out of first. I'm not sure what you have to gain by antagonizing me further.

Then again, I could just be paranoid (as comes with the territory.)

uh, I didn't ask people to vote for my game and I'm not antagonizing you I'm saying that preventing players from talking in the thread to 'increase activity in chat during night phases' literally makes no sense.

[Brilliant Dynamite Neon]

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I didn't ask people to vote for my game

POKER TWig is BEST TWiG VOTE 4 POKER WIN CHIPS AND BECOME A MILLIONAiRE

u r bad at wolf

but seriously, heh, I get what you're saying now.

[iluswirl]

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2x BDN, 1x Fic

[FictionJunction]

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debating increasing or decreasing the roster to prevent unnecessary night phase kill and instead start on a day phase.

13 - harder for wolves, extra day phase.
11 - same difficulty.

[Gradiant]

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Not like it really matters anymore, but my last vote for dAnkguy420