Lion Dance :: FFR Batch Submission
gold stinger - Lion Dance - Pica x M2U [7 / 10]
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Low 60's / Upper 50's bounty.

Broken jumpstream with 24ths and anchors. Makes for a fun play imho.

Can modify some 16th end-streams to include minijacks, but held back for difficulty. @ me if jumps need changing in 2nd half.

Simfile Folder Name

Lion Dance (gold stinger)

Note Count

1011

Chart Length

2:00

Average NPS

8.7306

Estimated Difficulty

61.31

First Note

0:04

Ending Note Delay

0:01

Hand Bias

x 5

Framers

0 - 0 1 - 0 2 - 0 3 - 0 4 - 4

Jumps

x 157

Hands

x 0

Quads

x 0

Color Jumps

x 0

Color Hands

x 0

Color Quads

x 0

Most notes in:

1/3 of a Second
6 - 18.00 nps 0.5 Seconds
9 - 18.00 nps 1 Second
14 - 14.00 nps 2 Seconds
25 - 12.50 nps 5 Seconds
60 - 12.00 nps 10 Seconds
115 - 11.50 nps 30 Seconds
318 - 10.60 nps 1 Minute
551 - 9.18 nps

Color Count

x 473 (46.79%)
x 261 (25.82%)
x 12 (1.19%)
x 230 (22.75%)
x 13 (1.29%)
x 21 (2.08%)
x 1 (0.1%)
x 0 (0%)
x 0 (0%)

Largest Note Gaps

0.37s0.37s0.37s0.37s0.37s0.37s0.37s0.37s
35
28
21
14
7

Approved for upper 50s bounty, cleared for judging.

Lion Dance (gold stinger) [7/10] [Fixes Required]

- Perms, metadata, sync are good

- furry

2.603 - Missing note

7.209 - Missing note?

11.391-11.664 - Weird PR here

13.119 - Arguably ghost

14.300 - PR, should be 3

20.846 - 32nds technically

21.573 - ^

23.028-23.664 - PR unclear, compare 17.209-17.846

24.119-24.846 - PR? Should prolly be descending

28.937, 29.028 - Should probably be mirrored to give better PR

29.709 - Strong emphasis here, but understandable that it's ignored

41.664 - 12th or 16th there

47.755,47.937 - Weird PR, should be descending

54.300 - No grace/burst for the flute?

55.028 - ^

55.846 - ^

^ These notes happen more during this slowdown

59.482 - Subtle, arguably ghost

59.664 - Ghost

1:01.119 - Sound there

1:02.846 - Ghost, compare 1:03.573

*1:07.755 - Why is this landing as a minijack? (2[24]) Compare 15.391

*1:08.482 - ^ Same deal

1:13.209 - 32nds technically

1:13.937 - ^

1:15.391-1:16.028 - See 23.028-23.664

1:21.937 - So you gave emphasis here, but not on 29.709. Inconsistent usage

1.35.482 - Very subtle, ghost note

1:44.573 - ^

1:47.555 - PR, should be on 3

I feel like many technical details are overlooked here, and require some more polish to make this file better. This sits with me between a reject or a CR. I don't think this is enough to reject it, so this gets a FR for cleaning up the notes and then it should be good to go.

I notice many of the 24ths for the flutes are technically 32nds, but if you chose 24ths to lessen the difficulty of those patterns, this is more understandable.

Regarding the comment about jumps @ 2nd half, I'm noticing there are some that you are ignoring during the streams, not sure why but I wonder if this is intentional or not.

Lion Dance (gold stinger) [7/10] -FR-

PERMS OK
SYNC OK

1.437: Missing note.

2.543: 32nds triplet here, not 12th.

3.482 & 4.573: Missing notes.

9.846: Could add 32nds here into the 4th.

10.437 & 10.482: Missing notes.

12.543: These are actually 32nds starting on the 4th until 12.619.

13.119: Should be a 32nd at 13.073.

13.391 & 19.209 & 25.028 & etc: Missing notes.

16.664 & 18.119: Jumps?

20.846 & 21.573: Also 32nds triplets like 2.543.

26.800: Missing note.

30.391: Here it's 32nds but starting from the 16th.

35.028: 32nds triplet.

41.664: Missing note.

43.209: Could add this soft piano note.

44.119: Jump.

52.664: Missing note.

54.391: Missing note, it's a 32nds triplet from the 4th so at least the 16th. Same for 58.391.

1:07.391: What's the jumps layering here, why is this one not a jump but 1:07.028 is?

1:26.300-1:28.119: Weird PR, would expect trilly triplets starting on every other 16th starting from 1:26.755, not 1:26.573. It's done correctly at 1:38.391.

1:31.391: Jump.

1:35.482: Could omit this.

1:37.270: These btw are correct 24ths, for example.

1:44.573: Can omit.

1:53.937: 32nds triplets again here.

It's a cute chart, fun rhythms overall. The quantizations concerns are not a big deal given that it's likely toned down for difficulty purposes, although it does feel off at times because some of the 32nds are much clearer than others which makes the 24th kinda weird. FR as nothing is super egregious but a cleanup is definitely needed. A lot of nuance is lost in trying to make this easy, and some sections pull it off but others feel bland because of it, although that's partially subjective.

Still planning on fixing these files just haven't came across time to sit down and open the editor for them, so fixes are just going to take a little bit longer. I do thank you all for the notes though and do plan on at least getting fixes in to meet the FR.

>*1:07.755 - Why is this landing as a minijack? (2[24]) Compare 15.391
>*1:08.482 - ^ Same deal
Piano here that is doubled alongside the main instrument strike the same note as the previous note, unlike the comparison made at 00:15.391 which contains no piano, and is therefore anchored due to the piano's PR. However, 1:08.482 is incorrectly anchored and so that has been split up into a [14].

I feel like judge notes are pulling in 2 different directions here because Oppiie's notes are requiring a lot of extra notes to be added and the FR reason is unclear beyond 'needs a lot of cleanup' and 'worry of 32nds to 24ths'. I've done that with almost all of Deamerai's notes but I'm getting the impression that adding a lot of the notes suggested by Oppiie will either put the file into a different difficulty range which will null the intentions of the song slotting from this batch or offset the intended notes provided by Deamerai with respect to the otherwise watering down of the file to meets its intended difficulty. (Specifically timestamps "3.482 & 4.573: Missing notes.", "13.391 & 19.209 & 25.028 & etc: Missing notes." which would scale into other parts of the song due to repetition).

I have added in some liberties that are shared across judges like adding 12th flams to flute in 2nd section but again, feels like a tug between judges since one mentions flams or emphasis and the other mentions triplet 32nds. Given the final note from Oppiie was that the main issue was that "some of the 32nds are clearer than others which makes the 24th kinda weird" and that was somewhat shared in multiple places in notes, that has been cleaned up and is hopefully enough to meet FR requirements on your end.

A new chart file was uploaded with the following changes:
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Note Count changed: 985 => 1011
AVG NPS changed: 8.50849 => 8.73057
Hand Bias changed: -3 => 5

Looks good to me! (Deam also approved the resolve of the FR)

Checking again and I noticed 1:33.300 is a slightly noticable missing note. Consider adding it