Stop Saying We Sound Like Dragonforce :: FFR Batch Submission
storn42 - Stop Saying We Sound Like Dragonforce - Fraser Edwards [7.5 / 10]
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i may or may not have gone too dense on the chorus.

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Simfile Folder Name

Stop Saying We Sound Like Dragonforce (Storn42)

Note Count

4932

Chart Length

4:40

Average NPS

17.7901

Estimated Difficulty

100.62

First Note

0:03

Ending Note Delay

0:01

Hand Bias

x 16

Framers

0 - 0 1 - 0 2 - 192 3 - 14 4 - 1322

Jumps

x 1041

Hands

x 276

Quads

x 1

Color Jumps

x 14

Color Hands

x 2

Color Quads

x 0

Most notes in:

1/3 of a Second
10 - 30.00 nps 0.5 Seconds
14 - 28.00 nps 1 Second
26 - 26.00 nps 2 Seconds
49 - 24.50 nps 5 Seconds
119 - 23.80 nps 10 Seconds
227 - 22.70 nps 30 Seconds
659 - 21.97 nps 1 Minute
1228 - 20.47 nps

Color Count

x 1815 (36.8%)
x 1494 (30.29%)
x 82 (1.66%)
x 1395 (28.28%)
x 84 (1.7%)
x 5 (0.1%)
x 19 (0.39%)
x 0 (0%)
x 38 (0.77%)

Largest Note Gaps

2.4s0.3s0.3s0.3s0.3s0.3s0.3s0.3s
35
28
21
14
7

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Note Count changed: 4929 => 4932
AVG NPS changed: 17.77925 => 17.79007
Hand Bias changed: 21 => 16

Stop Saying We Sound Like Dragonforce (Storn42) [ACCEPT] CR

PERMS OK
SYNC OK

This is pretty neat overall and relatively well balanced intensity/difficulty.

The one-handed trilliness of the main choruses is a bit annoying though (considered FR for it) and should probably be made more of a "generic" js/hs; the PR is nice and yes there has to be such trills due to the hands, but I'd recommend making the jumps more varied and not repeated. That way the actual parts where OHTs are the motif would be even more interesting and count as variety.

The minijacks are fine, there's one 112211 in the harder bit but it's not that big of a spike relative to the rest.

The long 24ths are simple and straightforward, which can be bad sometimes but in the context of the guitar they go to it's pretty cool and justified.

Nicely done, fun approach. Please consider tweaking the js/hs main sections to not be so incredibly full of OHTs though.

Fixes Required

Good lord.

Possibly the highest Storn difficulty file yet?

1:26.787-1:27.987 - I'm surprised you didn't do minijacks here
**2:41.187-2:41.862 - This section is a bit difficult for the right hand, suggesting moving 2:41.262 to [2]
2:42.387-2:47.187 - Sheesh, I won't lie, the triplet transitions here are aggravating.
**3:24.387-3:25.512 - This is where i'm unfortunately gonna have to suggest to break the technicality here. That one handed trill to my impression is the longest in the file, especially if it connects together with the split jumptrills (it also creates a slightly longer anchor chain with 3:26.412-3:26.562). What I'd like to see is the OHT broken into alternating hands (mirror 2nd half to other hand [3]). You did alternating trills with the chorus so I see no reason why not to do that here as well.

Jeez. The file is very well made, but this is gonna be a nightmare to AAA. Possibly up there with other RNG files such as Metro. FR on ** notes.

1 CR / 1 FR

Uhhhh..
Literally the only case of this combination of ratings in this batch, at least that I can remember. Since CR kind of wasn't supposed to be available to judges for ratings I'll treat it as an Accept.

Moved to CR.

A new chart file was uploaded.

@op

When initially charting the chorus i was definitely hesitant about the density i was going in with it. And i understand how annoying trilly it all is. The patterning was always going to be a risk. However i dont think the solution here is to make it generic HS. I feel that really just makes the sectoin less interesting, and makes the chart less unique as a whole. I could reduce the layering, But that would make the section a lot closer to tru's chart, which i also dont think is the right solution. of all the non-ideal solutions, i feel the current state is the best one.

@Deamerai
1:26.787-1:27.987 - I'm surprised you didn't do minijacks here
- I could put one, but the section is already kind of dense.

**2:41.187-2:41.862 - This section is a bit difficult for the right hand, suggesting moving 2:41.262 to [2]
- I dont see how this is worse than something like 2:40.437 on the left hand. There are sections of bias on each hand, so it generally balances itself out.

2:42.387-2:47.187 - Sheesh, I won't lie, the triplet transitions here are aggravating.
- Not much i can really do to fix that.

**3:24.387-3:25.512 - This is where i'm unfortunately gonna have to suggest to break the technicality here. That one handed trill to my impression
is the longest in the file, especially if it connects together with the split jumptrills (it also creates a slightly longer anchor chain with 3:26.412-3:26.562). What I'd like to see is the OHT broken into alternating hands (mirror 2nd half to other hand [3]). You did alternating trills with the chorus so I see no reason why not to do that here as well.
- Considering the Difficulty level of this chart, and how trilly it already is, I just dont see how this length of trill is really an issue. I can make the transition in/out more friendly to play, but i dont see how the trill itself is an issue.

The length of the trill is an issue because it creates an incredibly long OHT anchor with the jumptrills. It kind of transitions/plays bad here and I think to give a slightly more fair challenge you could lessen the harshness of it by alternating the OHTs as I mentioned in the notes.

respectfully, your response to "I dont see why the trill being long is an issue" is "because its long" There are already plenty of long OHTs in this chart. If the chart were less trilly i could understand how this is an issue, but in the context of the chart as a whole, i just dont see this being significantly worse than any other other very OHTs in this chart.