I THINK THEY SHOULD FIX THE TIMING ON THIS GAME

ddr_ildx · 06-4-2003, 02:55 PM

this game's timing is all messed up, its too hard to actually get all perfects on this, you need to synchronize it alittle more

**87x** · 06-4-2003, 03:28 PM

leave it alone n00b

Satsui · 06-4-2003, 04:12 PM

I can only agree.
It's not the game's timing that has a problem, it's yours.

..on another note, if you're serious about little lag-patches
ingame, it's because you have a slow computer. I've found
that you need about a 1ghz processor for it to run perfectly

SotN · 06-4-2003, 04:37 PM

actually, it runs awfully laggy on a 1 ghz.

1.7 is required for a lag free game on setting 1.

Satsui · 06-4-2003, 05:13 PM

Nah, I'm running a 1Ghz =). I can play setting 1 with hardly
any lag.. and what little lag I get is tiny little pulses that
at most change a perfect to an average.
I have to kill all other processes to do so though =P.

**Arch0wl** · 06-4-2003, 07:02 PM

Man, the timing in this game is so messed up, in SM I can get a 500 combo on revolutionary etude and on FFR I can get a 100 combo, game is still fun though, but not to play competitively

SotN · 06-4-2003, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satsui

Nah, I'm running a 1Ghz =). I can play setting 1 with hardly
any lag.. and what little lag I get is tiny little pulses that
at most change a perfect to an average.
I have to kill all other processes to do so though =P.

Most people, including me, would call that lag.

Satsui · 06-4-2003, 08:38 PM

heh. You don't know what lag is unless you played FFR on a 450 mhz
like I used to.
That's lag. XD
Compared to that, it runs beautifully now

ArK · 06-4-2003, 10:04 PM

i agree, im waiting till the engine gets more accurate to play. ever considered using wild tagent?

Satsui · 06-4-2003, 11:42 PM

Whazzat? ....dude, it still doesn't run that bad. Even on a 1 ghz,
I'm in top 5 for massive, and #1 for moonlight sonata.

...but is there a way to improve? =P

**Synthlight** · 06-5-2003, 01:17 AM

Usually there are 2 issues. Neither of them are lag.

Issue #1) Your computer is too slow. Hell, I would love it if Macromedia sped up the processing and movement of bitmaps in their flash plugin for IE/Netscape etc. Unfortunately we are pushing the frame rate to the limit with browser based flash playback. I could get probably 10x performance gain by using shockwave (Director based) but that would mean that newbies would have to go out and download a 10mb plugin. 90% of the people out there already have the Flash6 plugin. Them having the flash plugins leaves me with less questions and problems and them with less download time.

Don't get the 2 technologies confused. Stepmania is a standalone non-browser based product that was designed with speed in mind. FFR is browser based and does a HELL of alot considering it is only 250kb. You could fit 6 copies of the program on a single floppy disk.

Issue #2: Human error. There are still plenty of songs (dance#1, funk and a few others) that had their arrows recorded by hand. This was literally a keystroke recorder.. Look at songs like Song #5 in Dance1. That song was built using my DWI converter. You will notice how well it seems to keep sync. There are no syncing problems. Just human error in the creation of the level when it appears to not be perfect. I eventually hope to replace the old files with rebuilt DWI files that I then convert back into FFR. (anyone want to do this? It would be a tedious job).

One last thing. All files are preloaded into your system. The word lag gets missused these days. Basically what you are seeing is the slowdown of playback or something your eye is flaging as "not right". It has nothing to do with actual lag in the connection.

Arch0wl, I agree with you. I dont think that FFR is at a true competition level yet. But it will get there, it is consistant and it does keep people busy in class! It basically makes a DDR like game available anywhere you go in the world.

Cheers,

Synthlight

Satsui · 06-5-2003, 01:46 PM

*nod*. Like I said, it has tiny little pulses where the window hangs,
then catches up.. but that was on a 450mhz =P .'s not connection problem
=). The word lag was meant in terms of processor lag.

SotN · 06-5-2003, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthlight

Basically what you are seeing is the slowdown of playback or something your eye is flaging as "not right".

The term lag still applies to that. I know in the olden days it ment only connection lag, but any degregation in performance is termed lag. "slowdown" is too long of a word to type :P

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06-4-2003, 04:12 PM	#3
Satsui FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Land of the 3 Eh?s. Posts: 166	hrm. I can only agree. It's not the game's timing that has a problem, it's yours. ..on another note, if you're serious about little lag-patches ingame, it's because you have a slow computer. I've found that you need about a 1ghz processor for it to run perfectly __________________ Satsui M3GR!M

06-4-2003, 04:37 PM	#4
SotN FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,159	actually, it runs awfully laggy on a 1 ghz. 1.7 is required for a lag free game on setting 1. __________________ 209

06-4-2003, 08:38 PM	#8
Satsui FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Land of the 3 Eh?s. Posts: 166	heh. heh. You don't know what lag is unless you played FFR on a 450 mhz like I used to. That's lag. XD Compared to that, it runs beautifully now __________________ Satsui M3GR!M

06-4-2003, 11:42 PM	#10
Satsui FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Land of the 3 Eh?s. Posts: 166	Whazzat? ....dude, it still doesn't run that bad. Even on a 1 ghz, I'm in top 5 for massive, and #1 for moonlight sonata. ...but is there a way to improve? =P __________________ Satsui M3GR!M

06-4-2003, 02:55 PM	#1
ddr_ildx FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 1	I THINK THEY SHOULD FIX THE TIMING ON THIS GAME this game's timing is all messed up, its too hard to actually get all perfects on this, you need to synchronize it alittle more

06-4-2003, 03:28 PM	#2
87x FFR Veteran FFR Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: VA Age: 27 Posts: 4,376	leave it alone n00b __________________ RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer. 87x: more like.. professional goth.

06-4-2003, 05:13 PM	#5
Satsui FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Land of the 3 Eh?s. Posts: 166	Nop! Nah, I'm running a 1Ghz =). I can play setting 1 with hardly any lag.. and what little lag I get is tiny little pulses that at most change a perfect to an average. I have to kill all other processes to do so though =P. __________________ Satsui M3GR!M

06-4-2003, 07:02 PM	#6
Arch0wl FFR Simfile Author FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,535	Man, the timing in this game is so messed up, in SM I can get a 500 combo on revolutionary etude and on FFR I can get a 100 combo, game is still fun though, but not to play competitively

06-4-2003, 10:04 PM	#9
ArK FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 50	i agree, im waiting till the engine gets more accurate to play. ever considered using wild tagent?

06-5-2003, 01:17 AM	#11
Synthlight Administrator FFR Simfile Author Site Admin FFR Veteran Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United States of America Age: 39 Posts: 3,008	Usually there are 2 issues. Neither of them are lag. Issue #1) Your computer is too slow. Hell, I would love it if Macromedia sped up the processing and movement of bitmaps in their flash plugin for IE/Netscape etc. Unfortunately we are pushing the frame rate to the limit with browser based flash playback. I could get probably 10x performance gain by using shockwave (Director based) but that would mean that newbies would have to go out and download a 10mb plugin. 90% of the people out there already have the Flash6 plugin. Them having the flash plugins leaves me with less questions and problems and them with less download time. Don't get the 2 technologies confused. Stepmania is a standalone non-browser based product that was designed with speed in mind. FFR is browser based and does a HELL of alot considering it is only 250kb. You could fit 6 copies of the program on a single floppy disk. Issue #2: Human error. There are still plenty of songs (dance#1, funk and a few others) that had their arrows recorded by hand. This was literally a keystroke recorder.. Look at songs like Song #5 in Dance1. That song was built using my DWI converter. You will notice how well it seems to keep sync. There are no syncing problems. Just human error in the creation of the level when it appears to not be perfect. I eventually hope to replace the old files with rebuilt DWI files that I then convert back into FFR. (anyone want to do this? It would be a tedious job). One last thing. All files are preloaded into your system. The word lag gets missused these days. Basically what you are seeing is the slowdown of playback or something your eye is flaging as "not right". It has nothing to do with actual lag in the connection. Arch0wl, I agree with you. I dont think that FFR is at a true competition level yet. But it will get there, it is consistant and it does keep people busy in class! It basically makes a DDR like game available anywhere you go in the world. Cheers, Synthlight

06-5-2003, 01:46 PM	#12
Satsui FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Land of the 3 Eh?s. Posts: 166	nod. Like I said, it has tiny little pulses where the window hangs, then catches up.. but that was on a 450mhz =P .'s not connection problem =). The word lag was meant in terms of processor lag. __________________ Satsui M3GR!M

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