jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

[Viccica]

Re: jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

No, the comment on it being unfortunate was genuine. We lost our seer night 1.


As far as my comment on it being a neutral kill is, if anyone played with gun before you'd know he's NOT a strong player, he often just played UTR. It resulted in him winning a lot but not out of his own worth as a player (no offense gun). It was an educated, but neutral night one kill. The only other conclusion we can draw from it is that Gun came out to someone as a seer night one. While gun isn't a great player, he's not terrible and wouldn't do that (I'd hope).

Of the people playing there are a blend of experienced players and less-experienced players. Gun is someone everyone has played with before (except jrodd?) but that never drew a lot of attention as a strong player. It wasn't an indicative kill, just an easy one.

[Netjet!]

Re: jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

I wouldn't think that'd he'd come out as seer right away, but I can see where you're coming from.

[Vendetta21]

Re: jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

My opening gambit wasn't very good. Good rule of thumb is to not bandwagon and not let someone else set the tempo -- you can't trust their intentions.

I voted Viccica to apply pressure and get a response out of her. I didn't expect a quick bandwagon. Don't do that -- my point wasn't good enough to merit three votes at the get go. Had one more vote gotten onto viccica and none of the wolves were yet on the wagon, wolves were then in reach of insta-lynching. Sure that's highly unlikely but just a reminder not to get too complacent with adding another vote to the count.

We want to apply pressure and keep discussion moving, not all pile in on the same thing. Vote randomly, find anything wrong with anything that anyone else says -- just get the juices flowing. You should be trying to find the flaws in everyone's logic.

Netjet! I would really like to know why you reiterated what I said, went as far as to call viccica's opening statement about it being unfortunate "sarcastic", and then immediately reel back at her first post. It felt like you were willing to make a statement simply because you were saying it under the umbrella of a veteran, like having my opinion out there first was somehow shielding or protecting you from scrutiny.

[j-rodd123]

Re: jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

I was gonna post that as well, that was such a fast bandwagon.

Not sure if it was just a first TWG excitement adrenaline vote haha, same with James, but I want to hear that response too.

i don't even know if little_bear knows a twg is going on, he is new to ffr and hasn't been on in 3 days. I would love to hear some thoughts from lumpho and yoman as I saw you both viewing the thread. Emerald, I haven't seen.

PS Fiction where are you to lead us!!!!!!!!!

[j-rodd123]

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oh and I'll be on AIM for the next couple hours, feel free to talk. however my internet keeps randomly going out because this laptop is retarded

[Vendetta21]

Re: jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

PS Fiction where are you to lead us!!!!!!!!!

The only place fiction would lead anyone is down an escher staircase that leads to a mobius strip. But yeah where the hell is that guy?

[James May]

Re: jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

No, the comment on it being unfortunate was genuine. We lost our seer night 1.


As far as my comment on it being a neutral kill is, if anyone played with gun before you'd know he's NOT a strong player, he often just played UTR. It resulted in him winning a lot but not out of his own worth as a player (no offense gun). It was an educated, but neutral night one kill. The only other conclusion we can draw from it is that Gun came out to someone as a seer night one. While gun isn't a great player, he's not terrible and wouldn't do that (I'd hope).

Of the people playing there are a blend of experienced players and less-experienced players. Gun is someone everyone has played with before (except jrodd?) but that never drew a lot of attention as a strong player. It wasn't an indicative kill, just an easy one.

I guess when you put it like that it makes sense. Yeah its unfortunate that the seer was killed right off the bat (rip gun). I'll probably have to go a bit more in depth tomorrow to really put a firm vote, but my vote stays the same for now (not for bandwagon, but simply looking at past games to rely on since I lack AIM access until tomorrow...).

[James May]

Re: jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

As for Fiction, maybe either inactive because of lack of access or simply busy or probably died of pudding overdose and got lost in Elysium.

[Netjet!]

Re: jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

Netjet! I would really like to know why you reiterated what I said, went as far as to call viccica's opening statement about it being unfortunate "sarcastic", and then immediately reel back at her first post. It felt like you were willing to make a statement simply because you were saying it under the umbrella of a veteran, like having my opinion out there first was somehow shielding or protecting you from scrutiny.

I admit that I wasn't looking enough into the details and didn't make a good move. From what I read in the few posts here so far it seemed to me that viccica's post was really nonchalant, which made me suspicious. Your post made sense and I could definitely see where you were coming from with it, and I made the bad choice to follow your notion without looking into it more.

Because there was some explanation on viccica's part afterwards I reeled back; now that I had more information I was more reluctant to cast her out completely. And no, I didn't follow you because your "veteran" status/rep, I didn't think about that at all until you mentioned it.

The whole vibe of this is really hectic and that's probably why a bandwagon started so early.

[yo man im awesome]

Re: jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

I'm still trying to make sense of this.

I'm leaning toward voting for Viccica, but at the same time, I'm finding James questionable as well.

I feel like James is using a strategy of changing his vote and basically agreeing with others while adding minimal input to appear as the innocent new player to this, doing so to cover the possible trail that may lead to him being a wolf. That and I feel like he's trying to make jokes about people's absences to stay on a positive note with others.

As Viccica, I feel like everything that needs to be said has been so far. I don't see anything quite new to the table about her yet. I'll bring something up if I find somebody.

I don't want to vote yet, I want to be absolutely sure about it first.

[FictionJunction]

Re: jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

hi, I just got off a plane

[FictionJunction]

Re: jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

I'm going to give you all live updates of my impressions as I read the thread ready? ok

[FictionJunction]

Re: jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

I hate everyone who voted for viccica after V.

In fact, the gun kill was likely random. Barely thought provoking.

[j-rodd123]

Re: jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

tell us more!

[Netjet!]

Re: jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

I hate everyone who voted for viccica after V.

pierced my soul man, ouch