BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

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  • bassCannon
    Banned
    • Jun 2011
    • 148

    #106
    Re: BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

    Originally posted by irionman
    I voted for holds.

    Reason:

    Most people on this site, at least the guys who I started playing with, have gotten to be very good at this game. Holds add additional difficulty
    i hope you realize this group of "good people" you speak of is made up of probably less than 150 people which is less than 0.01% of the entire member count

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    • bmah
      shots FIRED
      Profile Moderator
      FFR Simfile Author
      Global Moderator
      • Oct 2003
      • 8448

      #107
      Re: BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

      Regardless, holds are an addition even newbies want. Added difficulty is just one positive aspect...the other big plus is mainly representing a song in a different way.

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      • Emithith
        FFR Player
        • Sep 2008
        • 1784

        #108
        Re: BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

        ACC: Marv/Perf/Good/Avg/Miss/Boo : Yes. It would be interesting to be able to have AAAAs as well as AAAs. Anyone who says otherwise pretty much doesn't want to have to go and do them again. lol
        DIFF: Single Difficulty per Song (Absolute!) : Eww, I wouldn't want to have to play more than one version of a song to AAAA/AAA every song on FFR.
        ARR: 4 Arrows Only : Solo is annoying. Keep it on SM only.
        MULT: 2 or MORE Player Multiplayer : Quite interested to see how this could work out. Do it fo'sho
        MINES - You must give a very good reason below! : I already keep them off on SM, I don't want to deal with them on FFR. But if they were optional I would be okay with that too.
        HOLDS - You must give a very good reason below! : See above.

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        • Emithith
          FFR Player
          • Sep 2008
          • 1784

          #109
          Re: BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

          Originally posted by irionman
          For the people who wanted the uber multiplayer option, think of this. The game lags pretty bad as it is. If you throw in a party room, the lag will be extreme, and for a lot of players, the game will be unplayable rendering the party multiplayer function useless.
          Read the OP: - "Multiplayer will be the single player screen, with the stats of other players around it. (Or something of the like) The arrows of the other players will not show up on your screen."
          All it will be is a synchronized display of scores, just like SMO.

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          • Frank Munoz
            Muein
            • Nov 2007
            • 2048

            #110
            Re: BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

            Originally posted by bmah
            Regardless, holds are an addition even newbies want. Added difficulty is just one positive aspect...the other big plus is mainly representing a song in a different way.
            But, only having 4 keys, no hold/no mines is what makes the files on ffr so special. It persuades the step artist into thinking that, if you want this chart in the game you'll have to look at the song a different way. And it's wonderful to see something different from an sm file; it's creative. What these files on ffr say to me is, "I was made for ffr".
            Unknown and Unofficial
            may the good arrow guide you

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            • bmah
              shots FIRED
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              • Oct 2003
              • 8448

              #111
              Re: BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

              idk, I find that pretty backwards

              For me, it's combo, noteskin, and songs amongst other things that define FFR. The lack of holds is something I would've liked long time ago. I guess it's become in my eyes the "unwanted" part of FFR's identity - FFR being without these things.

              @below: exactly, if holds existed back then, Crowdpleaser wouldn't have that asstastic trill section and can easily be represented by a hold. Holds are good when used well.
              Last edited by bmah; 08-2-2011, 07:06 PM.

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              • Emithith
                FFR Player
                • Sep 2008
                • 1784

                #112
                Re: BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

                Also, with holds the Jacks on Crowdpleaser and etc. wouldn't make sense/wouldn't be a good idea.

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                • Frank Munoz
                  Muein
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 2048

                  #113
                  Re: BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

                  Just redesign the ffr layout/colors/ect. We don't need no new features.
                  except multiplayer upgrade
                  Last edited by Frank Munoz; 08-2-2011, 07:08 PM.
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                  • Emithith
                    FFR Player
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1784

                    #114
                    Re: BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

                    Originally posted by Frank Munoz
                    Just redesign the ffr layout/colors/ect. We don't need no new features.
                    ^ this.
                    The multiplayer upgrade is a good idea though. Other than that I pretty much think it should just run faster and look neater.

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                    • leonid
                      I am leonid
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 8080

                      #115
                      Re: BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

                      I checked on everything to feel how contributive I am



                      Proud member of Team No

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                      • Patashu
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 8609

                        #116
                        Re: BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

                        I'd love to make couples charts

                        just saying <3
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                        • Frank Munoz
                          Muein
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 2048

                          #117
                          Re: BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

                          Originally posted by patashu
                          i'd love to make couples charts

                          just saying <3
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                          • aperson
                            FFR Hall of Fame
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 3431

                            #118
                            Re: BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

                            Holds:
                            I feel that these definitely need to be incorporated. One thing that really frustrates me when making charts for FFR is that I don't have a way to fluidly step notes with proper sustain when that becomes an important element that is modulated in the song.

                            I also would like to go so far as to want the holds to work like they did in o2jam. That is, you get graded on when you press down and you also get graded on when you let up. Using this intelligently gives you a whole extra element that is missing from so many of these games - managing note sustain. It will allow you to actually have to play staccato sections as staccato and legato sections as legato when they appear in a song.

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                            • TC_Halogen
                              Rhythm game specialist.
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 19376

                              #119
                              Re: BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

                              Originally posted by aperson
                              I also would like to go so far as to want the holds to work like they did in o2jam. That is, you get graded on when you press down and you also get graded on when you let up. Using this intelligently gives you a whole extra element that is missing from so many of these games - managing note sustain. It will allow you to actually have to play staccato sections as staccato and legato sections as legato when they appear in a song.
                              oh my god, all of the DJMax made me spoiled - I absolutely love that you get judged for releasing held notes <3

                              too bad no one will EVER go for that

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                              • aperson
                                FFR Hall of Fame
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 3431

                                #120
                                Re: BlackWebb Wishlist [Vote Now!]

                                It would be a damn shame if people didn't want to go for that. It gives both the player and the charter a whole lot more dynamic in terms of how they play the pieces. The only real problem with it is when the person charting the song abuses it. However, for us that would get stamped out in the judging process.

                                It's also a unique element that isn't apparent in many other games. A common complaint I hear is that "We shouldn't add X because it makes it just like other game Y", but with regard to this feature, no other DDR knockoff does this.

                                I haven't played DJ Max unfortunately, but oh god did I love it in o2jam.

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