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  • Izzy
    Snek
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jan 2003
    • 9195

    #16
    Re: Microsoft employee switches to a MacBook

    I find everyone who uses a mac or thinks a mac is superior to windows or other operating systems is highly computer illiterate.

    First of all, it's not even the mac osx that is wrong with mac. It's the hardware and the way that it is sold. Just because apple uses a sleek shiny look on their computers doesn't mean that is going to go faster or work better. The only reason they can possibly claim to have less errors with their operating system is because they give users 0 authority to do anything unique or convenient on the OS. It is also nice to know that if you ever want a better piece of hardware that you have to buy a new computer since its impossible to upgrade a mac. I love non standardized stuff.

    I dont know why windows claims to just be all that a pc is, but they do. A pc has nothing to do with the operating system. I could put mac on a pc if i felt like it. Oh well. I would never spend money on a mac computer. It is a horrible waste.

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    • tsugomaru
      FFR Player
      • Aug 2004
      • 3962

      #17
      Re: Microsoft employee switches to a MacBook

      I hate the Vista and XP war because at this point of time, it's really a preference choice. There isn't any monumental difference between getting one OS from the other.

      ~Tsugomaru
      Originally posted by Hiluluk
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      When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
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      • Musiks
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2008
        • 223

        #18
        Re: Microsoft employee switches to a MacBook

        Mac is great, but OS X is just too hard to personalize and make your own. That's why I use Ubuntu on a MacBook, it's unbeatable.


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        • Afrobean
          Admiral in the Red Army
          • Dec 2003
          • 13262

          #19
          Re: Microsoft employee switches to a MacBook

          Originally posted by tsugomaru
          I hate the Vista and XP war because at this point of time, it's really a preference choice. There isn't any monumental difference between getting one OS from the other.
          One is a lot more taxing on resources than the other.

          Oh and the other one already had a good installbase and was a good product in its own right and didn't need to be replaced.

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          • Squeek
            let it snow~
            • Jan 2004
            • 14444

            #20
            Re: Microsoft employee switches to a MacBook

            Originally posted by Afrobean
            One is a lot more taxing on resources than the other.

            Oh and the other one already had a good installbase and was a good product in its own right and didn't need to be replaced.
            You wouldn't have said that if Microsoft stuck with their three-year cycle.

            I'm not really sure what caused them to drop that plan, either. They're getting back in it though. People hear about the next Windows and think 'oh they're doing it to cover their shame with vista'. Was Windows 98 to cover for 95's shame? Hell no. 95 kicked ass. Was 2000 to cover for 98's shame? Hell no. 98 kicked ass. Was XP to cover for 2000's shame? Hell no. 2000 kicked ass. Was Vista to cover for XP's shame? Hell no. XP kicked ass.

            Also if your computer can't even run Vista then it's time to update your computer. Experts say you should be getting a new computer every two years. I stick to doing it every four years. Seriously, if you can't even run Vista then you won't be able to run much of anything at all. Times change quickly in this world, folks. Game installs aren't 500MB anymore. We're almost at 20GB for one game. A terabyte isn't that big anymore. Hell I have more than a terabyte and I'm close to filling my capacity. It's time to get more than 512MB of RAM. It's time to move past that 128MB video card. It's time to get more than one core in your processor.
            Last edited by Squeek; 10-25-2008, 03:13 PM.

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            • Nyokou
              ( ̄ー ̄)
              • Apr 2005
              • 4247

              #21
              Re: Microsoft employee switches to a MacBook

              Macs are amazing if you're doing work for school. They're also amazing if you're a graphic designer.

              I would only own a PC if I were to use it for more personal stuff like music, IM'ing, movies, games...

              Everyone in my high school class (2010) and the seniors, and everyone younger than us, I am guessing that out of all of us from grades 6+ would agree that the Macs are so much better for school. Every kid in 6th grade+ gets a laptop issued to them every school year. The middle schoolers (6-8) get Macs and the high schoolers (9-12) get Dells.

              Maybe it's because the Dells suck, but we all pretty much hate them. They break easily, they get viruses easily and we can't do anything about it because the school admins block EVERYTHING except for what we need for school. When we had the Macs in middle school, they were a whole lot better and they hardly ever broke. There would probably be like 3 or 4 people in one grade level alone that would have their computers at the help desk compared to us... As high schoolers with our stupid Dells, there are probably around 30-100 Dells at the help desk getting repaired EVERY WEEK.

              I'm pretty sure I only took my Mac to the help desk twice in middle school and they were problems that were easily fixed. I've taken my Dell to the help desk at least 15-20 times since freshman year, and I've had the exact same one since freshman year.

              :/
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              • Bynary Fission
                Retired One-Hander
                • Jan 2008
                • 2437

                #22
                Re: Microsoft employee switches to a MacBook

                Originally posted by Squeek
                Also if your computer can't even run Vista then it's time to update your computer. Experts say you should be getting a new computer every two years. I stick to doing it every four years. Seriously, if you can't even run Vista then you won't be able to run much of anything at all. Times change quickly in this world, folks. Game installs aren't 500MB anymore. We're almost at 20GB for one game. A terabyte isn't that big anymore. Hell I have more than a terabyte and I'm close to filling my capacity. It's time to get more than 512MB of RAM. It's time to move past that 128MB video card. It's time to get more than one core in your processor.
                True - technology advances faster than almost any other field. Take a look at Moore's Law - it still holds true today (for the most part). Unfortunately, this isn't so for laptops. Some people have to buy a computer on a shoestring budget, and since desktops can easily run over 1000$ for just a midrange computer, Windows laptops are often the way to go, since Macs are often far more expensive.

                Only one problem: people install Vista on these laptops that theoretically can't even support the OS at all (Vista supposedly needs a bare minimum of 512 MB to run, but many cheap laptops have less than this, often around the 400 MB range). I've seen friends with such computers - what are they supposed to do? Referencing what I said earlier, they can't afford Macs, and therefore must get a severely underpowered laptop for school with possibly under 500$ in their budget.

                Sure, you can disable the Aero interface and other CPU-eating features, but that doesn't really help a whole lot when you've got virtually zero RAM and processing power.


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                • funmonkey54
                  The Chill Keeper
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 4127

                  #23
                  Re: Microsoft employee switches to a MacBook

                  Originally posted by Squeek
                  I have Vista. I bet I paid less for my desktop than he did for his notebook.

                  Vista has never crashed or frozen on me.
                  I am right there with you.

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                  • Afrobean
                    Admiral in the Red Army
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 13262

                    #24
                    Re: Microsoft employee switches to a MacBook

                    Originally posted by Squeek
                    You wouldn't have said that if Microsoft stuck with their three-year cycle.

                    I'm not really sure what caused them to drop that plan, either. They're getting back in it though. People hear about the next Windows and think 'oh they're doing it to cover their shame with vista'. Was Windows 98 to cover for 95's shame? Hell no. 95 kicked ass. Was 2000 to cover for 98's shame? Hell no. 98 kicked ass. Was XP to cover for 2000's shame? Hell no. 2000 kicked ass. Was Vista to cover for XP's shame? Hell no. XP kicked ass.

                    Also if your computer can't even run Vista then it's time to update your computer. Experts say you should be getting a new computer every two years. I stick to doing it every four years. Seriously, if you can't even run Vista then you won't be able to run much of anything at all. Times change quickly in this world, folks. Game installs aren't 500MB anymore. We're almost at 20GB for one game. A terabyte isn't that big anymore. Hell I have more than a terabyte and I'm close to filling my capacity. It's time to get more than 512MB of RAM. It's time to move past that 128MB video card. It's time to get more than one core in your processor.
                    It's not a question of being UNABLE to run it. It's that I'd rather not have my resources being applied to worthless graphics and things I really don't need or want.

                    And heck, the computer I got came with Vista installed. So I installed XP on it once I got it.

                    Then there's the fact that I consider myself to have a rather decent skill in working with computers, but that skill goes mostly out the window when I have to relearn everything on a new system.

                    Originally posted by Nyokou
                    Macs are amazing if you're doing work for school. They're also amazing if you're a graphic designer.
                    Can you justify this statement? Windows-based has more software, even that covers the uses you identified. Windows based systems are wholly scalable, and you don't need to pay for any component you don't need. Modules can be upgraded independently and with ease. Finally, Apple hardware is freaking expensive compared to the alternatives, even the "name brand" IBM clones.

                    Originally posted by Nyokou
                    Maybe it's because the Dells suck
                    Can you justify this statement? Every Dell I've ever worked on has worked well within its means. It's not super high end, but it's not trash either. They're inexpensive computers and they work just fine.

                    Originally posted by Nyokou
                    they get viruses easily
                    No offense, but you are computer illiterate.

                    Originally posted by Bynary Fission
                    since desktops can easily run over 1000$ for just a midrange computer
                    I spent less than 500 dollars for my setup. Roughly around 400 if I recall. Maybe ~500 if you count the speakers, keyboard, and video card I swapped in.

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                    • fido123
                      FFR Player
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 4245

                      #25
                      Re: Microsoft employee switches to a MacBook

                      Originally posted by Musiks
                      Mac is great, but OS X is just too hard to personalize and make your own. That's why I use Ubuntu on a MacBook, it's unbeatable.
                      How is unmodifiable and overpriced hardware a good thing?


                      Originally posted by Nyokou
                      Macs are amazing if you're doing work for school. They're also amazing if you're a graphic designer.
                      I have to agree with this. For typing things and doing presentations I find Macs are easier to use and have more appealing visualizations.


                      Originally posted by Nyokou
                      Maybe it's because the Dells suck, but we all pretty much hate them. They break easily, they get viruses easily and we can't do anything about it because the school admins block EVERYTHING except for what we need for school. When we had the Macs in middle school, they were a whole lot better and they hardly ever broke. There would probably be like 3 or 4 people in one grade level alone that would have their computers at the help desk compared to us... As high schoolers with our stupid Dells, there are probably around 30-100 Dells at the help desk getting repaired EVERY WEEK.

                      I'm pretty sure I only took my Mac to the help desk twice in middle school and they were problems that were easily fixed. I've taken my Dell to the help desk at least 15-20 times since freshman year, and I've had the exact same one since freshman year.
                      I've had a Dell (Inspiron | 1300) for three years and it rarely gives me any problems at all and it goes though a lot of wear and tear at school. Also Afro is right, you're completely computer illiterate. The make of a computer does not determine the amount of viruses it gets. The only factor is people usually make viruses for Windows because that's what most people run (And I guess they figure Mac users suffer enough, snapz), and Mac is pretty useless for programming except for like UNIX I think. I have never gotten a virus except when I wanted a really ****ty CAD program so I could finish a project, it looked shifty like **** but I was desperate. I don't even use any anti-virus...just NoScript on FF.

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                      • Izzy
                        Snek
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 9195

                        #26
                        Re: Microsoft employee switches to a MacBook

                        I've had my old store bought HP computer for 8 years. Every time i run virus scans it always comes back with nothing. I browse the internet pretty heavily so I don't even understand what you would have to do to get a virus. Double click an exe called virus?

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                        • tsugomaru
                          FFR Player
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 3962

                          #27
                          Re: Microsoft employee switches to a MacBook

                          For schools, Dell is always a cheaper and better option than Macs. I don't understand why schools would even want to buy a Mac. My school recently got a bunch of Macs to replace all the old Dells. Although all the new Macs run faster, once they are broken, they can't be fixed. You can't replace parts like the hard drive, CPU, or RAM in these Macs. If a hard drive fails, you will have to buy a completely new Mac to replace it. Had we been using the old Dells, we could have replaced them with with one of the many working hard drives in our storage room. We've been using these Dells for easily over 6 years and in the past 4, we've only tossed out a good 3-4 of them because some jerk decided it was a good idea to take a hammer to the case. In the 1 year these Macs have been at our school, one has already died and had to be replaced.

                          And Afrobean, despite the fact that Vista may be a little more taxing on your system's resources, it wouldn't matter if you have an up to date machine. Your typical user won't use all the system resources a computer has to offer with XP, so they shouldn't have a problem running programs like Microsoft Word or Firefox whether or not it's on XP or Vista.

                          ~Tsugomaru
                          Originally posted by Hiluluk
                          WHEN do you think people die...?
                          When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
                          When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
                          When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
                          IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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                          • MrMagic5239
                            FFR Veteran
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 4096

                            #28
                            Re: Microsoft employee switches to a MacBook

                            I wish I would of been apart of the windows "mojave" experiment. I would of bashed the computer and ended its dieing cause of vista.
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                            • Squeek
                              let it snow~
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 14444

                              #29
                              Re: Microsoft employee switches to a MacBook

                              Originally posted by MrMagic5239
                              I wish I would of been apart of the windows "mojave" experiment. I would of bashed the computer and ended its dieing cause of vista.
                              This sentence hurts to read.

                              Three mistakes (one repeated twice), and all of them are mentioned here:

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                              • MrMagic5239
                                FFR Veteran
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 4096

                                #30
                                Re: Microsoft employee switches to a MacBook

                                Originally posted by Squeek
                                This sentence hurts to read.

                                Three mistakes (one repeated twice), and all of them are mentioned here:

                                http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=18770
                                I was making a joke rofl.

                                I haven't externally seen anything wrong with vista, but im sure if I used my OS knowledge and hardware/software knowledge I could find a few things that would make certain things not function to the highest extent. In all honosty, I don't see a huge deal with vista, besides its flash lag.

                                I also don't care much about grammar. If I cared, I wouldn't make retarded mistakes that make human eyes bleed. If needed, Ill use it to make you, and other forum mods happy
                                Last edited by MrMagic5239; 10-25-2008, 11:30 PM.
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