TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

[blindreper1179]

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

How are you going to lynch the person I shoot if you lynch me lol.

You didn't specify what the freezin idea even was

Taken as a whole the post is incomprensibile

Oh, ok. You just don't know how to read then.

I said "I WAS gonna say" as in, instead of lynching you, we lynch your kill instead. BUT, I don't like that idea too much because you could be lying, or the wolves night kill you and we lose your power. Comprehensible enough for you now?

[Tps222]

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

Town Leans:

Cel, Freezn, inDHeart, Funnygurl

Neurtal:

Sunfan, Prec

Scum lean:

Blindreper, Xiz

I've had a town lean on sunfan all game so I'm honestly a little surprised to see that he isn't seeing the forest through the trees here.

Precarious worries me a little bit for his reaction, I agree with inDHeart that his delayed claim (yeah I know pot calling kettle black) was weird, and his back and forth with Blindreper seemed really forced after a while. I really get the feeling that Xiz is capable of coaching Blind up on that and was happy to take advantage of freezn bringing that fight back up yesterday, and that I'm relatively confident that there is 1 wolf out of Blind/Xiz/Prec.

[Tps222]

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

wc to protect funny and cel ughhhh

Am I wrong in interpreting this post as an indication that DBP checked at least 1/2 of cel/funny and wanted to save one of them because of it? I re-read the thread and didn't see a mention of this which is why I was wondering if I misinterpretted the power. That's the major reason I'm putting them town lean right now and I want to make sure that's not with faulty logic at hand.

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

also i'm like ~certain at this point that no wolf fake claimed, bc they're rather sure of how many Ts are in the setup right now and fake claiming would require them to believe there's an SK, i think

the SK could know there's a fake claim but would never be able to express that because it's self-outing

the VT pool is the lynch pool

sunfan is probably just clear because peeking the counterwagon makes sense if you're dbp

[Precarious]

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

EBWOP: Okay, I see you posted.

Here's how I'm seeing it: the wolves would be inclined to eliminate a power role given the opportunity, since most could either implicate or kill them, or block their own NKs. That would make Tps and Freezin likely night targets. But, things are complicated if Tps is a Hider or a Doctor/Jailkeeper. Attacking Hider Tps would result in a failed NK; not attacking him could allow him to protect or jailkeep depending on what if any JOAT powers have been used (TTT gives us two goons and a JOAT).

If Tps is an I or an R, he should imo reveal that and any investigative results.

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

Am I wrong in interpreting this post as an indication that DBP checked at least 1/2 of cel/funny and wanted to save one of them because of it? I re-read the thread and didn't see a mention of this which is why I was wondering if I misinterpretted the power. That's the major reason I'm putting them town lean right now and I want to make sure that's not with faulty logic at hand.

he voted both of them within the 15-minute span before the end of that day. if he'd checked either of them and gotten back good "no gun" results, he wouldn't do that

[Celirra]

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

Am I wrong in interpreting this post as an indication that DBP checked at least 1/2 of cel/funny and wanted to save one of them because of it? I re-read the thread and didn't see a mention of this which is why I was wondering if I misinterpretted the power. That's the major reason I'm putting them town lean right now and I want to make sure that's not with faulty logic at hand.

it was believed for zzz reasons that sunfan was checked

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

ah i forgot hider can't be direct killed

yeah that's probably good enough to not have to full claim. the doc/jk stuff is more at the margins but we can at least leave wolves another game to play at

[Celirra]

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

is xiz mostly a paranoia scumlean?

[Celirra]

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

or poe?

[Precarious]

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

also i'm like ~certain at this point that no wolf fake claimed, bc they're rather sure of how many Ts are in the setup right now and fake claiming would require them to believe there's an SK, i think

the SK could know there's a fake claim but would never be able to express that because it's self-outing

This is actually a good point.

TTTTT = Mafia Goon, Mafia Goon, Mafia 1-Shot Bus Driver
TTTT = Mafia Goon, Mafia Goon, Mafia JOAT (Roleblock, Ninja Kill, Strongman Kill), Serial Killer
TTT = Mafia Goon, Mafia Goon, Mafia JOAT

TTTT requires a serial killer. We know we have RR from DBP.

That leaves TTT and TTTTT as the only possible valid configurations without a serial killer (we can assume no SK exists based on the night results so far).

If only one of Tps and Freezin is scum, then the other is town, and can be presumed to be telling the truth about their role. That would give us RRxTTTT--which is impossible because of the SK. If both are scum, then RRTTTTT is possible--but Freezin softed his claim in advance, and this would be an unlikely situation to gambit toward--there was no guarantee of a massclaim.

So both telling the truth is the most likely scenario.

[Tps222]

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

is xiz mostly a paranoia scumlean?

I think he's most likely to have guessed DBP as a power role after the way he went after him on Day 1, including leaving his vote on him.

He backed off onto FG day 2 but that was a pretty weak vote in itself. He has played pretty chaotically in general and is one of the few people in this game that I have actually played more than one game with before, so it'a combination of motive and what I believe he is capable of.

I'm not necessarily at the point of putting a vote on him yet though, I'm curious to hear what BlindReper thinks of him.

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

regarding the sunfan thing

I'm more inclined to think that it's just... a weird thing that happened and sunfan ultimately convinced himself that his decision was bad and retroactively revised his reasoning for it

looking at Gradiant's last will and testament

funny > indheart > sunfan

1. Funnygurl555
2. inDheart
3. Celirra
4. who_cares973
6. dabackpack
7. Xiz
8. Anti-Pearl FreezinIce
9. blindreper1179
10. Tps222

Right now I have indheart, sunfan, and Precarious town

I didn't think Freezin was a wolf yesterday because of how ridiculously suicidal it would have been for him forcing a thunderdome with sunfan, despite Freezin's consistently shitty play yesterday, unless he actually believed that sunfan was a wolf and was willing to die for it.

But the question I should be asking is if this is within Freezin's wolf range

1. Funnygurl555
3. Celirra
4. who_cares973
8. Anti-Pearl FreezinIce
9. blindreper1179
10. Tps222

this is my pool for today I think

let us overthink this dramatically since cel is still zzzing about it

the post about sunfan is very shortly into the day and wanting xiz to dispense with the thing about how he handled his syhto read and whose input he got

putting me and funny before sunfan ~always suggests he checked neither of us, and pulling off funny suggests he didn't check her and see a gun either

i think his check is almost certainly in one of his listed town, and outside his lynch pool. there's an outside shot that he checked freezin and saw a gun but i think he would have pushed that harder if that's what he was doing - he specifically responded to a question about "why are we defaulting to freezin" but then didn't seem to mind the wagon fizzling

the only person not between these lists is xiz, who i think he'd be putting in his town if he'd checked him

and as i just mentioned, sunfan was the d1 counterwagon to a town lynch

it's possible it's prec but imo that doesn't explain his posts to prec about the longer content seeming prewritten and wanting him to interact. that seems like a kind of cover drop to me that would be a stretch to fake

[Precarious]

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

Am I wrong in interpreting this post as an indication that DBP checked at least 1/2 of cel/funny and wanted to save one of them because of it? I re-read the thread and didn't see a mention of this which is why I was wondering if I misinterpretted the power. That's the major reason I'm putting them town lean right now and I want to make sure that's not with faulty logic at hand.

I believe the consensus was that DBP sort of softed Sun? Regardless, at most one of them could have been checked by DBP, and if that is the case, there's no certain way to know which one.

[Celirra]

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]

I think he's most likely to have guessed DBP as a power role after the way he went after him on Day 1, including leaving his vote on him.

He backed off onto FG day 2 but that was a pretty weak vote in itself. He has played pretty chaotically in general and is one of the few people in this game that I have actually played more than one game with before, so it'a combination of motive and what I believe he is capable of.

I'm not necessarily at the point of putting a vote on him yet though, I'm curious to hear what BlindReper thinks of him.

this conforms with the point I made earlier in the phase so I am a happy camper