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  • yo man im awesome
    soleil ardent
    FFR Simfile Author
    • May 2007
    • 6514

    #556
    Re: TWG CVIII: Drekk's Revenge

    continuing on:

    btw: Intercolor names have no order.

    Anko/Sunfan: I don't see the wolf here. It's been said already, but her apologies and reasoning looked pretty genuine to me. Sunfan hasn't done anything entirely suspicious either. Short Story was funny while also p. annoying though.
    Xelnya: Pretty sure Xelnya is human. Albeit a stupid one, I agree with the argument that Middie is just being Middie. Some of his responses in his last post (i.e. "yay" "boo, i'd argue you're wrong") while short, I just don't see the wolf in it.
    Manti: RC'd Seer, no one countered. However, I don't like that you're withholding the human. The wolves already know who each other are. Quite frankly, of course they're going to kill the person you name, unless they're the master wolf. But what also happens when you tell us the human is it closes the lynching pool by another person, giving us better odds at finding a wolf, because even if we don't lynch a wolf, if they're the MW, we'll know from the nightkill.

    Snowcrafta is null read because banning+essentially no posting

    Funnygirl: I personally see the reaction today as pretty legitimate. However, fg said a few things which come off as wolfy as well, so fg i'm on the fence with, leaning more towards human. this in particular was p. wolfy honestly:
    Originally posted by Funnygurl555
    You guys want to start a wagon on Afrobean now, too? Welp. I have a gut feeling that you're wrong; he's been coming off as very green to me, but the fact that quite a few of you think he's a wolf (Tokzic, thesunfan, Xiz, and YMIA now right?) is going to have to make me reconsider this a bit. I'm probably just being dumb ehh.

    Though I think that XelNya's more wolfy, and he voted for Afrobean to get more people to have as many votes as him.
    tokzic: Playing typical tokzic with multiple short posts, randomly changing between substantial and not-so-much. A couple have given off a semi-wolf look to me, but at the same time, I've agreed with 99% of what you've said, and You look more green to me red.
    clasko:So Clasko/Halogen/Mellon have essentially dropped off the world and we've got little to go on from them. I guess if I were to put them in suspicion order it would go (most/middle/least) : mellon/Halogen/clasko, but idk with them.
    TC_Halogen: ^
    mellonxcollie: ^^
    Guest: Thanks for talking when I asked you to. You're more than capable of talking like that all the time, but you choose to stay quiet. Why?
    Xiz: You're really starting to piss me off. Posts 492/493/512/etc. are just plain stupid. Also Tokzic literally took the words out of my mouth. Step your game up, Xiz. As a human, you're certainly not doing a good job of helping, and as a wolf, you're doing an atrocious job hiding it.
    Originally posted by Tokzic
    okay after reviewing xiz's posts he does look pretty weird

    on top of all the halogen nonsense:



    - acted like he has tons of information that he's withholding for some unknown reason
    - gave t-force tons of shit (t-force is a human)
    - heavily opposed to a xelnya lynch but never actually provided any reasoning as to why
    - once it was clear he wasn't on the chopping block he stopped playing the game

    shifting vote to xiz to see what happens, guest looking a lot better in my eyes after that post just now

    Afrobean: I agree with the suspicions placed on him, but again, I have to agree with Tokzic(? I think it was tokzic) who mentioned that it was us who complained about Afro's text walls, and how only now we're complaining about how out of place these short posts are. Regardless, even if he was trying to intentionally shorten the posts for our benefit, they look less substantial with useful info than normal coming from Afro. Keeping him high on the list.

    My vote goes on Xiz.

    Originally posted by choof
    you double dad loving dipshit
    Originally posted by t-rogdor
    dammit now i have to smoke a picture of choof out of a bong
    Originally posted by smartdude1212
    I can't be the only guy who has wondered what it'd be like to menstruate all over the shower.

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    • Funnygurl555
      T-Force's Rival
      • Dec 2010
      • 1865

      #557
      Re: TWG CVIII: Drekk's Revenge

      Originally posted by yo man im awesome
      Funnygirl: I personally see the reaction today as pretty legitimate. However, fg said a few things which come off as wolfy as well, so fg i'm on the fence with, leaning more towards human. this in particular was p. wolfy honestly
      Reeeaaally?

      Originally posted by T-Force
      If you're referring to me, maybe realize that if no one else thinks that, you're the one in the wrong.
      Originally posted by Funnygurl555
      Boo.
      W/e, there's three wolves. There's still two more people I have to look for. Until you screw yourself over enough so that people can see what I see~
      Originally posted by Tps222
      T-FORCE IS DEAD
      So I really wouldn't be surprised if I just couldn't see the obvious wolf here, YMIA. If I were a wolf, then why wouldn't I just straight bandwagon in the first place anyway?
      --
      Though about that Xiz vote...
      I had Xiz as a green for quite a while, but I realized something: does anyone else see his aggression during this game as a cover so that no one would get on the offensive with him? Guest and XelNya already kinda mentioned that his aggressive playing style was off-putting, and it's hard to cast suspicions on someone who plays like that without putting your own life at risk. thesunfan did say that this isn't exactly out of the ordinary for him, but I could also see how it could be a very clever wolf move.

      Not to mention the frequent vote-hopping (what happened to me being a wolf, Xiz?) without providing much information for the switch in the first place. I'd still like to know what made me and YMIA become "cleared humans" as well.

      Still keeping my vote on Clasko for the time being, though.
      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
      is funny eaman?
      Can you like not use those stupid names right now? Took me long enough to get these screen names straight in my head
      Originally posted by the sun fan
      GET DUNKED FUNNY
      (eaman is her name irl, friend)

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      • DarkManticoreX2
        TWG Overlord
        • Apr 2005
        • 7355

        #558
        Re: TWG CVIII: Drekk's Revenge

        Melon, what are your thoughts on afro

        Afro what are your thoughts on melon?
        AAA's = 800

        Originally posted by V
        Manti, I apologize for insulting you. Let the record show that I am a prickass douche, and not only that, but that I am a terrible player.

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        • mellonxcollie
          Sectional Moderator
          Sectional Moderator
          • Dec 2006
          • 1304

          #559
          Re: TWG CVIII: Drekk's Revenge

          Originally posted by DarkManticoreX2
          Melon, what are your thoughts on afro
          Personally I usually find it very difficult to tell with Afrobean because his regular personality and posting habits, even outside of TWG, are similar to those I'd expect a wolf to have. For example being very sarcastic/aggressive or getting super defensive might be wolf tells for some people, but that is common for Afrobean so they might not be the best tells for him and I need to search for other things.

          In this game right now I am leaning wolf for Afrobean. To be honest he is one of my stronger wolfier reads but I did not want to further bandwagon on someone too quickly, but since you've asked.

          I have a few reasons for thinking he is a wolf. First of all, the normal Afrobean passion has been missing in this game. When Afrobean thinks his team is doing something stupid, he is very good at communicating that with them via long posts, rants, etc. He is usually worried about the team making a misstep so he posts his thoughts on whatever matter is at hand. In this game he has not been doing that very much, possibly because he is communicating his displeasure with his team's actions via PM.

          He was also one of the people trying to lynch you the most, going so far as to exaggerate facts and make things up as you pointed out earlier. He also subtly tried to get you to share the seer result which might be a bit wolfy.



          Thoughts on other people:

          XelNya: kinda wolfy, pretty much for the same reasons as everyone else has posted. Viewing the thread a ton and not saying anything. I need to work on this too, but XelNya really needs to pop in more often and say more things. Also acting super weird Day 1. I liked their long post today and their wolf reads though, so I am unsure.

          Tokzic: I am leaning green here. The input he's made this game has made mostly good sense for the humans. He seems to be suspicious of pretty much everyone which seems very human to me. He also asked Manti for the seer results but that may not have been very well thought-out (not as wolfy as Afrobean trying to sneakily do it)

          YMIA: I liked his reads list earlier today. He hasn't posted as much as I'd like but IRL reasons are understandable

          Xiz: Sketchy. I really don't like that he is hesitant to share why his reasoning behind his suspicions, and he has been much more UTR than usual for Xiz, despite posting elsewhere on FFR. I find him suspicious.



          That is all I have time for right now but I will post my thoughts on each player by the end of the day.
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          • Xiz
            TWG Chaos
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Feb 2012
            • 3399

            #560
            Re: TWG CVIII: Drekk's Revenge

            See post 548, since apparently all you idiots forgot to read that already.

            I'm done with trying to start something this game. I'm sitting back and letting you all talk about what you want to do. Funny, how the activity from everyone has dropped since I decided to stop. Don't like it? Kill me then fuckers. See what happens.

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            • mellonxcollie
              Sectional Moderator
              Sectional Moderator
              • Dec 2006
              • 1304

              #561
              Re: TWG CVIII: Drekk's Revenge

              I read that in your post history just a few minutes ago... who cares?

              That's just lazy
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              • Xiz
                TWG Chaos
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Feb 2012
                • 3399

                #562
                Re: TWG CVIII: Drekk's Revenge

                Oh on the contrary mam I'm the opposite of lazy this game.

                I'm still following every post, and see'n how others react

                I'll post when I feel like it.

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                • Funnygurl555
                  T-Force's Rival
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1865

                  #563
                  Re: TWG CVIII: Drekk's Revenge

                  I'm gonna go drop off my reads list now. Whee~
                  Also, I'm being a lot more skeptical of people now (especially my prior green reads) due to my horrible accuracy before, so here goes nothing.
                  --

                  Clasko- He still said pretty little, which has made it hard for many of us to develop reads on him so far. As I've said before, the entire incident with his joke posting didn't go either way for me. The joking with AnkoAcid on her wall didn't go either way for me, either. I mean, he asked if she was a wolf as a joke. Why wouldn't a wolf do that to look less suspicious?
                  But what kinda made me start becoming suspicious of him was how little he contributed during the end of day one phase. He was watching the thread but let everyone else figure out what to do just to come back at the end of the game and ask when the night phase starts/ends?

                  Xiz- Your most recent posts did it for me. See what I mean by aggression? Every time you're pointed out, you're going to use that as some sort of mask. If you're being asked to contribute, then why not do it? Why do you keep saying that you'll just post "when you feel like it?"

                  XelNya: I still think that your earlier behavior was a bit off. This may just be you being you, but I'm not buying it. It's not like we can assume that you can't fake your own behavior to your advantage.

                  Afrobean- So I had this guy as green, but then I looked up on his past games a bit. Usually he would try more to steer the humans in the right direction, and apparently there are no long walls of text (such long... ermahgerd CV). I have this guy as null for now, but w/e

                  Snowcrafta- ... Banned... twice? During the same game?... Okay.

                  YMIA- To be honest, I have no idea how to read this guy: he comes off the same way to me in every game. What do you guys look for when reading this guy anyway?
                  That being said, the points he did make were pretty solid, and his skepticism of Xiz when he cleared us two as human looked pretty green to me, but I'm not trusting my intuition on this one.

                  Tokzic- I would have him as a human lean, but he agrees with a lot of what I say, and I could just be thinking that way because of that. I want to let some time go by before I make an actual opinion on him. Though he has been exhibiting some very human characteristics such as being skeptical of some people (XelNya, Afrobean, etc.). Also, none of his posts come off as wolfy to me, at least not yet. I have to look at him more because I may just be agreeing with what he's thinking, but oh well.

                  TC_Halogen- As I've said before, the reads list thing looked human to me, not wolfy. Not to mention that he actually made some nice points in the reads (though mostly about me, ugh). That being said, he's been flying barely over the radar, so he's now the weakest of all of my green reads. Hopefully when he comes back he can try to dispel all the heat he's been getting from Xiz/thesunfan/Afrobean.

                  Guest: His most recent post made tons of sense, especially the little blurb about Xiz.

                  DarkManticore- Roleclaimed seer. Welp.

                  AnkoAcid/thesunfan- What first time player would not try if he/she were a wolf? That sounds way too odd for me, so she was at human for me now; however, she could have always had so much work that even a wolf would have to leave the game.
                  It's still more likely that she was human, which automatically has thesunfan down as human for me.

                  mellonxcollie- I still think she's posting like a human. I've already mentioned my reasons before, so I won't elaborate here.
                  Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                  is funny eaman?
                  Can you like not use those stupid names right now? Took me long enough to get these screen names straight in my head
                  Originally posted by the sun fan
                  GET DUNKED FUNNY
                  (eaman is her name irl, friend)

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                  • TC_Halogen
                    Rhythm game specialist.
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 19376

                    #564
                    Re: TWG CVIII: Drekk's Revenge

                    For those of you who said that I was quiet, I did mention that I wasn't feeling well yesterday and that I had to work 10 hours today; do I really have to show you my timecard lol

                    anyway, gonna be here making a post about my thoughts and whatnot.

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                    • Funnygurl555
                      T-Force's Rival
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 1865

                      #565
                      Re: TWG CVIII: Drekk's Revenge

                      Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                      Tokzic- I would have him as a human lean, but he agrees with a lot of what I say
                      Oops, I meant I agreed with what he has to say. Oh well.
                      And I support the Xiz wagon now.

                      Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                      For those of you who said that I was quiet, I did mention that I wasn't feeling well yesterday and that I had to work 10 hours today; do I really have to show you my timecard lol

                      anyway, gonna be here making a post about my thoughts and whatnot.
                      Cool beans. It'll be nice to see things from the perspective from someone who hasn't had the opportunity to view this thread as much.
                      Though I guess that goes for YMIA as well...
                      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                      is funny eaman?
                      Can you like not use those stupid names right now? Took me long enough to get these screen names straight in my head
                      Originally posted by the sun fan
                      GET DUNKED FUNNY
                      (eaman is her name irl, friend)

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                      • Xiz
                        TWG Chaos
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 3399

                        #566
                        Re: TWG CVIII: Drekk's Revenge

                        I haven't contributed, lol okay.

                        Final post and final reads:




                        Clasco - No solid read. Leaning green.
                        Sunfan - Looking at Anko then Sunfan and how they have played, no doubt in my mind green. Especially looking at Gregs most recent posts in terms of trying to lead stuff. Props to you dawg.
                        YMIA - Got really pissed at me early for withholding info about Funny. I liked that. Could be fooling me hard, but I'm gonna say green.
                        Funnygurl - I grilled her hard day one, and thought she really had wolfy posts, however her constant effort and dedication shows how much she is improving as a player. I'm impressed. MVP for her if she is wolf. Good luck to you.
                        Snowcrafta - N/A
                        Guest - Responds whenever he feels like it, or asked. He is great at going UTR. Kind of a wild card IMO. However his responses are thought provoking. I'd be willing to risk and call him a red.
                        Afrobean - Not how afro plays. Either he is doing a new style or he has fooled everyone as a green.
                        XelNya - A green who only participates when he wants to.
                        Mellonxcollie - Finally, she is giving some decent input instead of her 'la de da' posts. Not really worried about her as of now.
                        Tokzic - Honestly, I have never been able to wrap my head around Tokzic. I'm sorry, I'm lost with this guy. Could easily be green or red.
                        Halogen - Obvious reasons, if you actually all care for my input about him, then i'll post even more detail but i'm not going to anymore.
                        Manticore - I believe he is blue, and last night the wolves targeted someone else because Guardian 'MIGHT' still be out there. Unless T-Force was the guardian, which I'm starting to believe.



                        BTW I was trying to bait the wolves lynching me. I wanted them to believe I was blue, when I'm just a green. Oh well. Good luck townies.

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                        • Xiz
                          TWG Chaos
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 3399

                          #567
                          Re: TWG CVIII: Drekk's Revenge

                          Also,


                          Originally posted by thesunfan
                          Guest, you don't understand how Xiz plays, if your read on him is that misconstrued. He's "going berserk" because he has a gimmick he plays with every game, and in this case, its being hyper-aggressive. Read into it if you REALLY want, but he's done this in his human and wolf games. That's why he's not on anyone's radar atm for being aggressive.

                          ^ This is exactly right. My gimmick this game was "Ass Hole Mode"

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                          • thesunfan
                            Role Tide
                            Sectional Moderator
                            • May 2011
                            • 10859

                            #568
                            Re: TWG CVIII: Drekk's Revenge

                            basically swap mellon and Tokzic around and give clasko and funny a wolfier lean, and you've got my list from Xiz's list.

                            Xiz is green in my book, but not solid at all. Mindmelding so far, as usual. I don't like the current wagon on him, its incredibly dumb and most of you should feel bad for voting him with such poor reasoning. Afro remains my vote today, would like to see Halogen or Funny dead as well.

                            Xiz - See above. His aggression SHOULD NOT be a reason to lynch him.

                            Tokzic - Mindmelding almost as hard as Xiz is. Good for you. You've been dead wrong about mellon before, and I'm glad you've realized the comparisons between her game now and her game in CIII.

                            mellon - I'm bad at reading you. I'm judging you based on your lame vote on Manti that late in the phase, as well as Tokzic's defense of you, and finally how you handled the pressure from Manti last phase. I'm really curious about you, and you've fooled me hard before. Giving you a slight green lean because my evidence on you is weak and because (Most) of my human leans have you down as human as well.

                            Clasko - Your comment on Anko's wall, mainly in addition to your failure to recall said event (??????) gives you a wolfy lean, in addition to your dumbass-ery night/day one. Funny's right, you need to get in here and say more. Now that your gf is gone, I wonder what you think of me, mainly. (Important)

                            Funny - You're playing like you did in the UN game. Good for you if you're a wolf. I feel like you're trying really hard to look like you're playing like you did in that game. Your reaction to kill, as well as the kill itself (You saying "Why would I ever do this as a wolf" is veeeery wolfy to me, as that's how I like to play wolf, and reminds me of how you played in CIV.)

                            Xiz, stop having the same ideas I do every goddamn game, I'm sure it annoys other people.
                            Originally posted by Vendetta21
                            Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
                            Originally posted by XelNya
                            I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
                            Originally posted by star-crossed
                            (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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                            • thesunfan
                              Role Tide
                              Sectional Moderator
                              • May 2011
                              • 10859

                              #569
                              Re: TWG CVIII: Drekk's Revenge

                              oh yeah, am I the only one who isn't 100% sure that Manti is the seer? Its possible, but VERY unlikely that Afro is human and Manti claimed out of desperation, hoping that FoJar was the seer, or that they would at least out the seer for them to move in on? Its really unlikely, and I don't consider it at all to be the current situation, but no one else has really mentioned it. Not worth worrying about until later, just figured it would be worthwhile to bring up now. (Important).
                              Originally posted by Vendetta21
                              Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
                              Originally posted by XelNya
                              I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
                              Originally posted by star-crossed
                              (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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                              • Xiz
                                TWG Chaos
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 3399

                                #570
                                Re: TWG CVIII: Drekk's Revenge

                                Oh I have doubts about manti too. You should. Everyone should.

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