149 BPM 64th rolls, yes or no?

[cyrx900]

I always wanted to step FAREAST HARDSTYLERZ for FFR, and during the FMO/FGO Event I wanted it to be stepped the way I always wanted it to be. Of course, the file didn't make it in. Jimerax said I could send it again for the regular batch (I'm aware that the current batch is closed, so I'm preparing for the next one).

The thing is, there are several sections in the music that contain 64th notes, and I have no clue on stepping it in any other way. So I need several experienced stepfile artists to answer this question.

Should I leave the 64th rolls or should I abandon the idea of stepping the song?

[thechild]

The stepfile artist (I like to consider myself one :D) would have to hear the song to see if it would make a good file at all.

[foilman8805]

64th rolls at pretty much 150 BPM? Geez.

Technically, it's correct, I'm sure. It's probably a drum roll or something. Is that fun though? Hell no - no one can hit that. I'm fairly sure people can get away with quadding it, which is what I would do. For the sake of technicality, leave it the way it is, or just omit it.

[TC_Halogen]

149 BPM 64th rolls? NO.

Sorry n.n; this is coming from someone who plays pad most of the time. But...if you factor in the math...

149 x 2 (8th notes) = 298
298 x 2 (16th notes) = 596
596 x 2 (32nd notes) = 1192
1192 x 2 (64th notes) = 2384 TAPS A MINUTE

In turn, that's almost FOURTY TAPS a second. NOOOOOOO. XD

[ninjaKIWI]

HELL YES. THAT IS AWESOME. FFR needs files like this.

EDIT: Jesus you people are closed minded..

[cyrx900]

ROFL XD These replies made me laugh. So that's 1 yes, 1 no, and 1 maybe. Anyone else?

[TC_Halogen]

Yes for KB. HELL GOD NO NEVER for pad. :P

[ninjaKIWI]

I personally wish stuff like Cetaka's dumps would get onto FFR. SM is so much better filewise.

[foilman8805]

My response was pretty much a yes. Like I said, you can quad it just fine - wouldn't be too bad at all.

[Shashakiro]

You're way better off making them 32nds, honestly, unless they match the difficulty of the rest of the file as 64ths.

[EnR]

My Hardkore Atomic file (being used in round 7 for master division) has 181 bpm 48th rolls and 24ths trills

[cyrx900]

Hmm. I think it would be better if you guys actually listened to it. I can send the mp3 to you if you need it.

Shash - Right before the 64th notes are 32nd notes, and right before the 32nd notes are 16th notes, so it doubles after every measure or half measure, so I still don't know what else I should do.

[EAGAMES]

We need more songs that MrRubix can't AAA giving us the opportunity to have a better score than him.

Ps. We need Amber Shores on here.

[Flandre Scarlet]

64th rolls at 149 bpm isn't impossible, it's basically four 149 bpm jacks almost at the same time I think, since 32nd rolls are 8th jacks together. If they're not extremely long, most good players would pass/combo them.

[EnR]

I also started stepping this, most of the song is 8th notes then has those huge bursts.

[cyrx900]

The longest section of the 64th rolls is one whole measure. I'm not sure if people can handle the pressure.

[sakura080789]

yeah i think so considering i have heard the song and i think it should fit

[Flandre Scarlet]

The longest section of the 64th rolls is one whole measure. I'm not sure if people can handle the pressure.

It'll help the FFR population not used to jacks to learn how to vibrtate then. XD

I say just go for it. This song would be close to Amber Shores .8x rate but less bursts. I suck at jacks and I can A that .8x

[cyrx900]

So far pretty much everyone said yes to 64th rolls.

[Shashakiro]

I'm thinking from the standpoint of having the file accepted by the judges, not from the standpoint of whether it would be fun/doable.

I can't say I like your chances of getting in anything with 64th rolls like that, but if you don't feel anything else fits the judges may also feel that way.

[Tasselfoot]

i'd have to play it. as shash said... likely the biggest issue would be difficulty through the file. if it's relatively easy, then has 1 measure of 64th rolls... then that doesn't make much sense.

[buizel8888]

If it goes with the music, put it in. If not, don't. Why the hell are you all making a big deal about this?

[ninjaKIWI]

We need more songs that MrRubix can't AAA giving us the opportunity to have a better score than him.

Ps. We need Amber Shores on here.

We DO have permission for it, it's under Alphabasic apparently.

[cyrx900]

Without the 64th roll the song is probably no more than a difficulty of 10. However, there are more than one bursts in this song. There's probably about 4 or 5 sections of bursts scattered around the song, and they are either 64ths, 48ths, or 12th/16th notes combined with a "roll", so in my opinion the stepfile would overall be a 12.

Another thing, would it be ok if I added quads/hands to the stepfile? I think that it would go with the feel of it as well.

[t-rogdor]

Well, i just stepped Eclipse (Lunar) and it had....170 BPM 48th rolls and alot of 48th+64th+32nd bursts (goes with the song)

So i would say sure. why not.

Edit: My Hardkore Atomic file (being used in round 7 for master division) has 181 bpm 48th rolls and 24ths trills

Damn, you beat me to that song!

[dood gone krazee]

I'd say yes. It would help people work on vibrating, which most people have no clue how to do so. (Except experienced players, such as Dynam0)

But like Tass and Shashakiro said, if its really easy except for the few bursts, it may not be accepted.

Also, I think the rule is FMO and higher you can have hands and quads.

Send me the song, I wanna hear it.

[PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR]

I just stepped a song with 48ths at 220... or something like that. As long as it keeps with the general feel of the song, I think it should be fine.

[cyrx900]

Thanks for all the help, guys! :)

[EAGAMES]

We DO have permission for it, it's under Alphabasic apparently.
I know we have permission for it, we just need a someone to make a really good, uber hard file out of it. Somone do it now!

[hi19hi19]

haha I'd gladly step amber shores. Sounds fun :D


vRofl's quadjacks are 200bpm. a 64th roll is the same notes per second as a quadjack, so long 149 bpm 64th rolls are certainly comboable on FFR (that is, without avmisses)

Will anyone AAA it? Not likely! Make sure the rest of the file is hard enough to warrant it, but if you're sure your file is already an FMO/FGO and the rolls fit, go for it. FFR needs more hard dumps

[PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR]

haha I'd gladly step amber shores. Sounds fun :D


Please please please do... And let me help ;)

[sente3]

I say sure. Stuff like this on SM tends to be fun.