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foilman8805
06-1-2008, 06:13 PM
soul, if someone is known to have cheated they won't be allowed in. I think that is safe to say.

And spinal, I'll go find that post by Tass that Izzy is referring to...one sec.

FINALLY… we will be doing a song event in conjunction with the tournament. Each round of the tournament will feature a brand spanking new song for each and every division. The tournament will be 10 rounds, so that means 50 new levels as part of the tournament. Be warned, there may be some twists and turns with them too. :).

[HectoGtzMX]
06-1-2008, 06:15 PM
There's no post, it's on the front page news.

Izzy
06-1-2008, 06:15 PM
Tass didn't say how many songs though. Id like Tass to confirm that there are going to be around 50.

gamer_4_life27
06-1-2008, 06:17 PM
I have a question. Say two people tie for a song, and they get the extra 24 hours to play the tie breaker song or improve there score on the main song. Well, say one person plays the tie breaker song, and the other person improves there score on the main song and doesn't play the tie breaker song. What happens then?

Hope to see you all at the final bracket.:D

gamer_4_life27
06-1-2008, 06:19 PM
Tass didn't say how many songs though. Id like Tass to confirm that there are going to be around 50.

It's in the news that there is going to be ten rounds, 5 divisions, one new song per division per round. So that would equal 50 new songs for the tournament.

ZaBasDa
06-1-2008, 06:19 PM
Whee, my first tournament. I'm totally going to die, even in beginner. ><

gamer_4_life27
06-1-2008, 06:22 PM
ZaBasDa, you play NeoPets too!?!?!? :o lol.

devonin
06-1-2008, 06:23 PM
Maybe it's outdated, because didn't the avatar uploader used to only allow 200x200px for the max dimensions and changed to 300x300 sometime around when the new FFR layout came out?The filesize allowed to be uploaded is a function of the VBZ forum system. The FFR Forum rules supercede what is allowed by the VBZ system. 200x175 is the maximum size of avatars.

Verify.Every main round song in all divisions will be new to the game as they become rounds in the tourney.

This may have been posted, but I read through the first post and saw nothing about it, I may have missed it. If someone has a history of bsing, will they be placed in tournament, or restricted from joining?I am going to advocate that individuals who register who in the opinion of Sprite- and the Administration are too much of a risk for cheating be contacted in private by admins and informed why they won't be allowed to compete. Of course since the first thing most of them will do is publically make a thread complaining about it, chances are good that most such people will probably also be banned.

Say two people tie for a song, and they get the extra 24 hours to play the tie breaker song or improve there score on the main song. Well, say one person plays the tie breaker song, and the other person improves there score on the main song and doesn't play the tie breaker song. What happens then?I was rather confused about the fact that in the event of a tie, you apparantly have the option to both improve your score on the main song -and- play the tiebreaker song. I'd like to see it simply be the tiebreaker song.

xXDeltaXx
06-1-2008, 06:24 PM
its my 1st tourney too..BTW, wuts the highest division 1 or 5? i read the 1st post and i didnt see anything about it

devonin
06-1-2008, 06:25 PM
5 is the highest division, and will probably be composed of everyone who registers who is in Tier 0 through 2 and possibly into the top end of 3 in the Tier Point System. Before people ask, if you don't know what the Tier Point system is, you aren't in a Tier.

gamer_4_life27
06-1-2008, 06:25 PM
I was rather confused about the fact that in the event of a tie, you apparantly have the option to both improve your score on the main song -and- play the tiebreaker song. I'd like to see it simply be the tiebreaker song.

Same here. I think this might confuse some people because I might try to improve my score on the main song instead of playing the Tie Breaker song. I don't know, I just think having this new option might create some problems in the future.

devonin
06-1-2008, 06:28 PM
I mean, you -could- do it such that whatever score is on both sides of the line being the elimination score so if you can get your score above that, you aren't eliminated anymore, -and- if you "win" the tiebreaker you aren't eliminated either, and since any unsubmitted score is -infinity, if I improve my main score and you do the tiebreaker, we both advance.

gamer_4_life27
06-1-2008, 06:32 PM
I mean, you -could- do it such that whatever score is on both sides of the line being the elimination score so if you can get your score above that, you aren't eliminated anymore, -and- if you "win" the tiebreaker you aren't eliminated either, and since any unsubmitted score is -infinity, if I improve my main score and you do the tiebreaker, we both advance.

If that happens, then the tournament should be a double elimination. Where If you get knocked out, you go to the 2nd tier and play there. So if someone improves there score on the main song, and the other person played the Tie Breaker song, then the person who played the Tie breaker song would advance, and the person who improved there score would go to the 2nd Tier. Because if you don't play the Tie Breaker song, wouldn't your score be -infinity, and you would lose the Tie Breaker?

gamer_4_life27
06-1-2008, 06:35 PM
Two more things.

One, is there only going to be one person working on the scores this time around? Because I remember last time, it was a big problem that took forever when only one person was handling the scores.

Two, when is it starting? I might have missed the start date.

s0ulst0n3
06-1-2008, 06:40 PM
Thanks for confirming that Devonin. ^^

Yay, Haku is in! Can't wait to face him. =3

ZaBasDa
06-1-2008, 06:46 PM
ZaBasDa, you play NeoPets too!?!?!? :o lol.

Is that a crime? Actually I kind of stopped playing once I made my mil.

But is it expected that to do well in D1 we have to be able to FC the difficulty 10 song?

Tasselfoot
06-1-2008, 06:47 PM
to answer the improve main round vs tie breaker question... main round takes precedence. you should always try to improve your main score first. the tie breaker is exactly that, a tie breaker. if 1 person improves their main score, then the 2 people are no longer tied.

and it likely will just be sprite doing the scores.... which, yes, will take a bit of time for the first round or two, with thousands of people submitting. but by week 3 or 4, it will be much faster. you'll deal with it, i'm sure.

it is starting the week of june 9th, as stated in the news post. we don't have an exact date, because we have to take the time to put everyone into their proper division.




Zab: the D1 difficulty 10 song will be the 10th and final song... only 2 people will be left in the division at that point. and, i honestly don't know if either will FC it. but I suspect at least 1 will.

gamer_4_life27
06-1-2008, 06:51 PM
Thanks Tass. So if I were to improve my score, and the other person didn't, I would move on.

And I can handle waiting a while for the first few rounds. Last time I think I got caught with a cheat because I remember playing a song that was assigned to me, and I beat the person's best score by a lot, and he topped my score by almost AAA'ing it or something crazy like that. But as long as I don't encounter one of those, and I play to my full potential, I think I'll do fine and make it to the final slot.:D

Good luck everyone. See you in the Tiers!

Tasselfoot
06-1-2008, 06:52 PM
up to almost 600 people signed up.

xXDeltaXx
06-1-2008, 06:53 PM
Personally, I just hope to pass the 1st round ^.^

gamer_4_life27
06-1-2008, 06:56 PM
YEAH!!! More than 600 people will be beaten by me!!!:p

ZaBasDa
06-1-2008, 07:06 PM
You can't beat me if I'm in a lower division than you. But I will be beaten anyway.

jugglinguy
06-1-2008, 07:08 PM
YEAH!!! More than 600 people will be beaten by me!!!:p

600/5

gamer_4_life27
06-1-2008, 07:09 PM
Hello gamer. DjShox, a forum mod, is in a musician contest that he really wants to win. You can help him by voting for him. He would be very grateful for any votes that you could give. For more information, please click here. This is not spam, I am trying to get people to vote for him. If you have any questions, message me back!

Got this message from CrashJet555... I don't know what to think about this... >_>

ZaBasDa
06-1-2008, 07:11 PM
Hello gamer. DjShox, a forum mod, is in a musician contest that he really wants to win. You can help him by voting for him. He would be very grateful for any votes that you could give. For more information, please click here. This is not spam, I am trying to get people to vote for him. If you have any questions, message me back!

Got this message from CrashJet555... I don't know what to think about this... >_>

I also got one of these. :???:

Perry Ellis
06-1-2008, 07:28 PM
Sign me up too :)

nev670
06-1-2008, 07:31 PM
Go sign up at the main page Perry

Perry Ellis
06-1-2008, 07:36 PM
I did i made a mistake. Thanks though.

MaxxOverload
06-1-2008, 07:36 PM
Hey I want the rules and such I can't find them but of course I want to sign up!

foilman8805
06-1-2008, 07:39 PM
See the first page of this thread, or the front page news article for rules and instructions.

littleyao55
06-1-2008, 07:40 PM
im in =D

TanNguyen
06-1-2008, 07:48 PM
Can we "unsign up"? I tried to click the stop button before the whole thing loaded, but unfortunately I'm on the list? Anyway to get off (the list) or do I just let myself get "negative infinity"? I haven't played for a while so I don't think I wanna do a tourney.

meno_rocks123
06-1-2008, 08:00 PM
YEAH!!! More than 600 people will be beaten by me!!!:p
No, that position is reserved for the winner of D5

Bluearrowll
06-1-2008, 08:06 PM
Question about the new 50 songs: Are ALL of them going to be available to the public or is it just to the people inside the division?

mexican_mafia
06-1-2008, 08:06 PM
why am i not on the list?

Lain_Iwakura
06-1-2008, 08:07 PM
I see -Laggy-

sup laggy

Zamiax
06-1-2008, 08:07 PM
Woohoo another tourny hopefully i do better this time. and one more thing is Vertex BETA vROFLgoing to to be a rize as well, cause i see the there might be additions to the rewards but i just want to know

zoogarama
06-1-2008, 08:08 PM
Why am I not on the list?

Because Sprite- isn't a god and he'll put you on it if you clicked the magic button when he does an update. Just be patient...

Woohoo another tourny! Hopefully I do better this time. Oh and one more thing, is Vertex BETA vROFL going to be a prize as well? Cause I see that there might be additions to the rewards but I just want to know.

Reading the rules always helps since chances are your question will be answered in the process. Yes vROFL is going to be a prize.

Zamiax
06-1-2008, 08:14 PM
i just realized that know, but thank you for your help

Beethovens mask
06-1-2008, 08:19 PM
Sweet I finally got onto the list. I'm a bit paranoid, been checking it constantly. :roll:

EAGAMES
06-1-2008, 08:22 PM
Some of the participants are scaring me. I hope they're not going to be in the Intermediate division with me.

EnR
06-1-2008, 08:23 PM
Question about the new 50 songs: Are ALL of them going to be available to the public or is it just to the people inside the division?

it would take to much work to only give it to those in their division.

Tasselfoot
06-1-2008, 08:28 PM
the songs will be public. last tournament, the only new songs specifically for the tournament were done during the finals... so it was 4 songs for 8 people, so it was easy enough to make those a token and only give access to the finalists.

for this, it is too many people. maybe for the finals we'll make it only accessible by the participants, but i doubt it.

Sk8IT
06-1-2008, 08:30 PM
New songs yay!!

edit: post 300:D

zoogarama
06-1-2008, 08:32 PM
the songs will be public. last tournament, the only new songs specifically for the tournament were done during the finals... so it was 4 songs for 8 people, so it was easy enough to make those a token and only give access to the finalists.

for this, it is too many people. maybe for the finals we'll make it only accessible by the participants, but i doubt it.

I think you've blocked it from your mind how much of a pain in the rear that was for us finalists when you made the switch on the songs from token song to public....

xXDeltaXx
06-1-2008, 08:34 PM
Question: Will Vertex BETA vRofl only be a reward for D5? or all?

PlayTrumpet
06-1-2008, 08:35 PM
All.

Izzy
06-1-2008, 08:39 PM
so top 8 of all sections? or like top 2 of each.

DayMan951
06-1-2008, 08:41 PM
Top 8 in all divisions.

CrashJet555
06-1-2008, 08:43 PM
Can we "unsign up"? I tried to click the stop button before the whole thing loaded, but unfortunately I'm on the list? Anyway to get off (the list) or do I just let myself get "negative infinity"? I haven't played for a while so I don't think I wanna do a tourney.

Haha, loved the part where you said "to get off... the list".

nev670
06-1-2008, 08:44 PM
I don't know if this is mentioned, but if you already have vROFL, can it be like subscription or money in which you can transfer to another person if you don't want that prize?

Tasselfoot
06-1-2008, 08:46 PM
if you want to unsign up... just don't submit in round 1. it's that simple.

vROFL will be up for grabs in all 5 divisions... the top 8 people will get it. although, if someone in the top 8 already has it, 9th place will NOT get it. so, it is UP TO 8 that will get it, not the top8 who do not already have it. which is why in the front page news story, it says "(up to 40)".

and zoo... i had forgotten about that. but, i do recall, now that you mention it. that was a pain for me too, since i had access to all of them.




nev: if you already have vROFL, you get to prevent someone else from getting it. that is your prize.

samtorx
06-1-2008, 08:47 PM
lol ffr is pretty popular

blve23
06-1-2008, 08:57 PM
i will join if tass promises to shuffle it.

nev670
06-1-2008, 08:58 PM
Cool Tass, never thought of it that way. Oh, and btw, I wanted you to see this http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/videos/index.php?songid=3217

ll sephirothll
06-1-2008, 09:08 PM
YAY another official tournament :D

Izzy
06-1-2008, 09:11 PM
i will join if tass promises to shuffle it.
I luled. I guess that's one less person that is joining.

.Holy
06-1-2008, 09:20 PM
Can't wait. :)

8 Hour Whore
06-1-2008, 09:24 PM
Hum, can't wait to find my division and rape some face in this tourney =]]

MystictheHedgehog
06-1-2008, 09:32 PM
Crossing my fingers for D1...well was until I saw the post that anyone with a TP won't be in D1....so crossing fingers for D2 now :]

This outta be fun...that first round is gonna suck for me though, I'm gonna just be getting back in town towards the end of the round most likely...gay. Ah well. Takes my mind off summer school work anyway.

xxxim_a_noobxxx
06-1-2008, 09:41 PM
Sweet hmm i wonder how i will do...http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/images/uploads/xxxim_a_noobxxx1212295050fullcombooo.jpg

Mans0n
06-1-2008, 09:43 PM
When will the first round start?

hazard195
06-1-2008, 09:47 PM
IDK why I just hit the "Sign Me Up" Button, because I know I'm gonna get uberPWND..... ._. I guess I'm just playing for fun at this point.

Relambrien
06-1-2008, 09:49 PM
Wow, over 600 people signed up on the first day. Wasn't the last official tournament like ~1000 total?

Sprite-
06-1-2008, 09:54 PM
Hi guys! I'm just posting to say that I'm making a change to the tiebreaker rules after reading the posts about them. Tiebreaker rounds will ONLY be to play the tiebreaker song, not to improve the main song. Thanks for the huge amount of signups. Hoping to see millions more in the future :)

jimerax
06-1-2008, 10:08 PM
tiebreaker songs = songs already in the game, right?

sarahxjane
06-1-2008, 10:14 PM
Yay!
I'm in.
W00t.

Thanks for posting the list Sprite.

x After Dawn x
06-1-2008, 10:22 PM
tiebreaker songs = songs already in the game, right?

I'm assuming so. I don't know if there would be enough new songs for tiebreakers.

Izzy
06-1-2008, 10:26 PM
Nobody tie. Everything will work out perfectly.

Sprite-
06-1-2008, 10:32 PM
tiebreaker songs = songs already in the game, right?

yes

Tasselfoot
06-1-2008, 10:37 PM
around 700 signed up. and, i think the last one had around 1500. but, it's only been 24 hours... there is another full week for people to sign up. i'm confident we'll get 800+ more in that time... i suspect 2000+ total.

KlingPosnot
06-1-2008, 10:39 PM
Hey, I was wondering if there is a way to still compete in a round if you know you are going to be gone for that week on vacation in advance?

smartdude1212
06-1-2008, 10:41 PM
Thanks for the huge amount of signups. Hoping to see millions more in the future :)

I can't even imagine you sorting a million people into five divisions of a tournament.

immawhiteguy
06-1-2008, 10:42 PM
I hope I can do this even with my road trip to Texas for the summer coming up =/

Maybe I'll do a bit better than last time and go a round further than vROFL >_<

Sir_Thomas
06-1-2008, 10:45 PM
First tournament I have ever entered.

raskanally
06-1-2008, 11:34 PM
First tournament I have ever entered.

same here....but i look forward to good semi-clean competition...:P

Sprite-
06-1-2008, 11:42 PM
Updated as of 12:35AM EST on Monday, June 2nd.

cookie_monster0608
06-1-2008, 11:48 PM
Updated as of 12:35AM EST on Monday, June 2nd.Did you bother counting? lol

Kinspin
06-1-2008, 11:48 PM
I just signed up, this is my first time.

Evixen
06-1-2008, 11:49 PM
I signed up.
Does anyone know if the tie breaker will be harder than the main song???

DayMan951
06-1-2008, 11:51 PM
Did you bother counting? lol

712 people so far.

I signed up.
Does anyone know if the tie breaker will be harder than the main song???

Yes, they will be harder.

cookie_monster0608
06-1-2008, 11:51 PM
I signed up.
Does anyone know if the tie breaker will be harder than the main song???Depends on what song they pick.

712 people so far.Anybody know the count from the last three official tournaments?

edit: 1316 people from the 3rd official tournament. Wow. We might surpass that amount.

Tasselfoot
06-2-2008, 12:01 AM
less... 1296... 32 in expert, 218 in advanced, 420 in intermediate, 626 in beginner. will search for 2nd and 1st.

IIRC, the 1st one was capped before it ever started... at either 500 or 1000.

dore
06-2-2008, 12:03 AM
I have to request that I not be placed in the top division, I suck comparatively with avmisses gone :) besides the fact I rarely play arrowsmash anymore. But I'll try :D

adlp
06-2-2008, 12:05 AM
5 divisions is a great idea

Tasselfoot
06-2-2008, 12:08 AM
2nd official had 1006 players.... too lazy to count how many in each division, and it wasn't listed in my quick search.

1st official was capped at 192. heh.

1st official was in FFR General, 2nd was in BB, 3rd in FFR Events... 4th in Events. 1st/2nd was run by Shash, 3rd/4th by Sprite.

Although, for those that recall the real old days... there were 2 seasons of the FFR League back in 2004... spring and summer. LD/Freak ran the 1st, I ran the 2nd. There was a few hundred people in each of those across 4 divisions.

revolutionomega
06-2-2008, 12:09 AM
IN. I mean this might actually force me to play more xD

Gilly G
06-2-2008, 12:22 AM
I suspect that since this is a summer based tournament, it has been taken into account that many people will be leaving over certain periods of time in which they might not be able to play. Right? :|

trumaestro
06-2-2008, 12:23 AM
New songs every round, eh?

I must say, it's pretty cool when one of your ideas gets used, haha

Tasselfoot
06-2-2008, 12:28 AM
Gilly: each round is 1 week long. that's about as long as we can make rounds without people losing interest... while at the same time giving everyone ample time to play a round as much as possible and submit their best score.

Gilly G
06-2-2008, 12:32 AM
Hm, I'm leaving for 21 days in July, from the 10th to the 31st, so I'll be interrupted in the tournament (if I haven't been eliminated). Yet opportunities to get vRofl aren't too common. It would be a pity to lose because of this.

The official tournament being in summer isn't top for everyone in my opinion, but that's just me.

Zageron
06-2-2008, 12:33 AM
Gilly: each round is 1 week long. that's about as long as we can make rounds without people losing interest... while at the same time giving everyone ample time to play a round as much as possible and submit their best score.
Vacations cause problems. and I will be away for ether 1 or two weeks in a row. I will have access to a computer, but a horrible one with a crappy keyboard. Any way around this other than canceling my holiday?

Tasselfoot
06-2-2008, 12:37 AM
swing by a library for half an hour? or hit an internet cafe / hotel? there are plenty of places where you can pay for short internet access (or free: library) if you are truly dedicated.

otherwise, i guess you're SOL.

Xx{Midday}xX
06-2-2008, 12:43 AM
swing by a library for half an hour? or hit an internet cafe / hotel? there are plenty of places where you can pay for short internet access (or free: library) if you are truly dedicated.

otherwise, i guess you're SOL.

I can imagine myself going into a Maid Cafe in the middle of Akihabara just so I could play FFR... =)

No, I'm not interested in maids... =/

Not sure what SOL stands for.

cookie_monster0608
06-2-2008, 12:47 AM
Not sure what SOL stands for.**** outta luck.

Queen_Darcy
06-2-2008, 01:37 AM
I'll try to do my best :)

mnnicol
06-2-2008, 01:58 AM
Been looking forward to this. Let's see how far I get :P lol

meno_rocks123
06-2-2008, 02:37 AM
swing by a library for half an hour? or hit an internet cafe / hotel? there are plenty of places where you can pay for short internet access (or free: library) if you are truly dedicated.

otherwise, i guess you're SOL.
****
unless the rounds end up starting and ending on something like a wednesday, but if it's a saturday, that'll suck considering I'm gone from the 28th to the fifth =/

itmorr
06-2-2008, 03:12 AM
Hi

Please enter me.

Thanks!

i love you
06-2-2008, 03:36 AM
Rofl, this tournament sounds like fun. Too bad I won't be joining this 4th tournament since i have better stuff to do.

Ps: Good luck to everyone

Maddy2
06-2-2008, 05:12 AM
Sign me up! xD

kirjautunut
06-2-2008, 06:31 AM
Hope so i'm not going to be in expert.. advanced sounds good enough for me. then i would have some chances to get vrofl :D Good luck to everyone, hope it will be interesting to play against you. ;)

MrMagic5239
06-2-2008, 06:40 AM
what requirements get you into what division? Like how many AAAs and FCs get you into each division?

Adamaja456
06-2-2008, 07:26 AM
haha i remember when i went to Idaho last summer, there was a computer in the lobby.
I played FFR good on that thing XD

i love the idea of clearing out the queue by weaving it into the official tourny. good plan.

Nyokou
06-2-2008, 07:38 AM
I joined. :3 I'm going camping for five days in July, so no internet access. D: I wonder if I'll even make it in the tourney for that long. x]

tepsu
06-2-2008, 07:40 AM
how will you pay ? paypal or what :O

Adamaja456
06-2-2008, 07:50 AM
yes, paypal.

psychopete
06-2-2008, 08:05 AM
Eh, summer's coming soon, so I guess I'll attempt. In.

TC_Halogen
06-2-2008, 08:20 AM
Sheesh, that is a LOT of entrants already.

I predict 2,000+. :o

MrBGuy
06-2-2008, 09:31 AM
when is this thing going to start???

EAGAMES
06-2-2008, 09:33 AM
June 9th signups close, so I'm guessing that it'll start soon after.

25thhour
06-2-2008, 09:37 AM
In for sure.

MrMatt106
06-2-2008, 10:08 AM
Prizes are boosted from last year :( and since I came 2nd in last year's beginner I will be put into a hard division and get destroyed.

Goldspark
06-2-2008, 10:17 AM
I'll play.

cookie_monster0608
06-2-2008, 10:32 AM
Sheesh, that is a LOT of entrants already.

I predict 2,000+. :oI predict around 1500.

devonin
06-2-2008, 10:40 AM
what requirements get you into what division? Like how many AAAs and FCs get you into each division?We'll be looking at substantially more stats than just AAAs and FCs, and all of it together will determine your division. There aren't fixed requirements, it will depend as much on the abilities of other people who sign up as it will on yours. (If only people worse than you sign up, you'll be in a higher division etc)

how will you pay ? paypal or what?

Yes, cash prizes will require paypal, T-shirt prizes will require a mailing address. If either of those is unacceptable to you, I'm sure you can work out an alternate arragement.

when is this thing going to start???I imagine if getting everyone sorted into divisions takes 2 days or less, it could start as early as the 10th of June. If it looks like it will take longer, it will take longer. There's no chance of it starting any later than the 15th unless Tass, Sprite- and I all get the flu at the same time or something.

Prizes are boosted from last year and since I came 2nd in last year's beginner I will be put into a hard division and get destroyed.Previous performance isn't going to factor into your division placement. If by stats and apparant skill you're still a beginner, you'd be in the beginner division. If however, you did come in 2nd inbeginner last year and have made any improvements at all, yes, chances are you'll end up bumped up into intermediate.

Frozen Beat
06-2-2008, 11:30 AM
Can I forfeit? =/

EAGAMES
06-2-2008, 11:31 AM
I suppose so.

OmegaCrowman
06-2-2008, 12:16 PM
It's been a little over 6 months since I've played FFR itself, so needless to say I'll be rusty, but I cant pass the FFR tourney's up. I'm in this. Lastly, hello everybody who hasnt seen/heard/typed to me these past months. As for the competition, Gambatte FFR Community :) (do your best.)

Sprite-
06-2-2008, 01:34 PM
Updated as of 2:30PM EST today. 815 signups so far. Keep em coming!

Sh4d0wD3v1L
06-2-2008, 01:39 PM
I'm in...I'm going to get destroyed, but at least I'll have fun trying.

Shashakiro
06-2-2008, 02:00 PM
lovin' how some of the stuff I typed up ages ago is still used in the rules template =)

also I signed up for laughs and because it's summer and I'm bored a lot

wonder if these are fun I've never really played in one

blindreper1179
06-2-2008, 02:03 PM
uht oh, shash is playing..

Shashakiro
06-2-2008, 02:05 PM
uht oh, shash is playing..

I'm terrible at this game. I expect to be put in D3 or less.

/serious

blindreper1179
06-2-2008, 02:06 PM
your not terrible, your just not the best anymore. and just a little rusty is all.

EnR
06-2-2008, 02:06 PM
in before OMG SHASH!

I've prettyy much read this whole thread and its annoying as hell to see people ask questions without reading..

blindreper: he hasn't played FFR, like a REAL game of FFR in 10 months., im sure he's terrible :P

foilman8805
06-2-2008, 02:07 PM
Shash, you won't be in D3 because we know you're capable of more.

Shashakiro
06-2-2008, 02:08 PM
your terrible

I know =(

Shash, you won't be in D3 because we know you're capable of more.

i can fc mario given a few tries, is that good enough for D4?

foilman8805
06-2-2008, 02:10 PM
I can't FC Mario, and I'm pretty sure I'm looking at D3.

EnR
06-2-2008, 02:12 PM
I can't FC Mario, and I'm pretty sure I'm looking at D3.

Hardcore of the North 974 - 25 - 0 - 0 - 0

That is a shash score from 4 months ago (the last time he played)

That's like D3 worthy rofl

foilman8805
06-2-2008, 02:17 PM
He set that up four months ago so he could look bad and get into a lower division come tourny time. :D

blindreper1179
06-2-2008, 02:17 PM
i know he hasn't played in a long time. doesn't mean he forgot how to play. he'll pick it up quick when he starts to play it serious for the tournament.

EnR
06-2-2008, 02:21 PM
So I checked out last years round 1 page...look whow as in EXPERT (aka master)

Silver_Brian 12

rooofl, that was prob an insane misplacement

xXDeltaXx
06-2-2008, 02:29 PM
1500 sign-ups Pl0x?

Froston
06-2-2008, 02:30 PM
Better not put me in a hard division, just cuz my overall is low..my best aaa is secret zombie room, respek my Baddyness kthnx

Schrammbledeggs
06-2-2008, 02:30 PM
*STILL waits for mystery prize from Official Tourney 2*

foilman8805
06-2-2008, 02:32 PM
Better not put me in a hard division, just cuz my overall is low..my best aaa is secret zombie room, respek my Baddyness kthnx

Placements never have, and never will be based on overall rank.

igotrhythm
06-2-2008, 02:36 PM
Just solved my problem by talking my brother into driving me to the local community college.

Bring it, everyone. >=D

cookie_monster0608
06-2-2008, 02:52 PM
Just solved my problem by talking my brother into driving me to the local community college.

Bring it, everyone. >=DGood job. You're not SOL after all.

xXDeltaXx
06-2-2008, 04:02 PM
how many people u think will sign up?

EnR
06-2-2008, 04:07 PM
how many people u think will sign up?

Lots.

tass said around 2000, no need to ask others >_>

Sprite-
06-2-2008, 04:09 PM
Tass knows the future.

Tasselfoot
06-2-2008, 04:10 PM
i'll be happy with 1500.

and, looking forward to seeing how Shash will do in D5 vs Izzy, Laggy, etc. Let's see how his skills are post-avmiss fix.

Dominewyorican
06-2-2008, 04:15 PM
On Topic: I remember seeing someone ask this before on one of the pages but didn't see a response. From when will we be looked at to be placed? In the sense that....I joined yesterday. Does that mean you will be looking at my "skills" from yesterday and back...or will things I accomplish this week as well be taken into account?

Off topic: I've been reading this whole thing through and have to laugh each time I see EnR's pic rofl.

Sprite-
06-2-2008, 04:18 PM
Only the stats you had prior to hitting the signup button will be looked at for the most part. For some people, I will do advanced research of current scores.

EnR
06-2-2008, 04:18 PM
Off topic: I've been reading this whole
thing through and have to laugh each time I see EnR's pic rofl.

I laugh at it myself, then I look at my siggy and lol some more.

Tass, I'm going to be in advanced amirite?

Dominewyorican
06-2-2008, 04:21 PM
Only the stats you had prior to hitting the signup button will be looked at for the most part. For some people, I will do advanced research of current scores.

Gotcha. *gulps*

zoogarama
06-2-2008, 04:23 PM
I laugh at it myself, then I look at my siggy and lol some more.

Tass, I'm going to be in advanced amirite?

EnR: Quite frankly you look insanely a lot like my cousin in that pic.

Sprite-: *insert sexy post here*

Sprite-
06-2-2008, 04:29 PM
Sprite-: *insert sexy post here*

you always did have a way with words :P

Izzy
06-2-2008, 04:35 PM
I think its whenever they decide to look through your stuff. There are tons of people signed up so it will probably span over a long period of time. The time they look at yours could be different then someone else. But you wouldn't know when that was anyway.

EAGAMES
06-2-2008, 04:35 PM
i'll be happy with 1500.

and, looking forward to seeing how Shash will do in D5 vs Izzy, Laggy, etc. Let's see how his skills are post-avmiss fix.
I thought Shash would never come back. Does this mean that he will start playing again or will he just quit again after the tournament is done?

lumphoboextreme
06-2-2008, 04:36 PM
aww i got hacked and lost my avatar and had to change it. D=

on a more on topic note good luck to everyone in the tournament. :p

Sprite-
06-2-2008, 04:39 PM
Updated as of 5:30PM EST today.

Dominewyorican
06-2-2008, 04:40 PM
I think its whenever they decide to look through your stuff. There are tons of people signed up so it will probably span over a long period of time. The time they look at yours could be different then someone else. But you wouldn't know when that was anyway.

I know...thats why gulped lol. This will be my first tourney in general and it had me amped so I started forcing myself to play songs I'm having troubles with. But I don't want to miraculously get like 30 fc's (and in there maybe TP's) in that time and then get bumped up lol. Nonetheless I just want to see how I do and play 50 new songs :).

zoogarama
06-2-2008, 04:43 PM
Updated as of 5:30PM EST today.

I think you need to update more, only three times today so far is unacceptable. :/

Sprite-
06-2-2008, 04:44 PM
Well considering I woke up 4 hours ago lol. That's a lot.

zoogarama
06-2-2008, 04:47 PM
Well considering I woke up 4 hours ago lol. That's a lot.

I woke up two hours ago. I would have had 4 updates by now and you should have 8. *goes to report your behind to tass*

foilman8805
06-2-2008, 04:52 PM
Wow, zoo is ****ing ruthless!

Poor Sprite. :(

rel89
06-2-2008, 04:56 PM
that was easy signing up; I loved it.

smartdude1212
06-2-2008, 05:02 PM
OMG SHASH *sh!ts pants*

in after ****ty pants

xXDeltaXx
06-2-2008, 05:03 PM
>.< my bad


aww i got hacked and lost my avatar and had to change it. D=

on a more on topic note good luck to everyone in the tournament. :p

wow that stinks..i saw ur avatar b4 it was really cool =/

MrRubix
06-2-2008, 05:08 PM
Eh actually. Why not.

In!

devonin
06-2-2008, 05:09 PM
Can I forfeit? =/Just don't submit any scores.

From when will we be looked at to be placed?WHen you signed up. Also, you appear to have joined in 2006 rather than "yesterday"

I think its whenever they decide to look through your stuff. Most of the relevant data we'll be looking at was actually snapshot and saved when you pressed the button to sign up (As in, we already have your tier points, AAAs, FCs, Gameplays, Tier points, Top 10 non-aaa scores) though we will of course be looking more in depth in some cases.

foilman8805
06-2-2008, 05:11 PM
I rescind my nomination for -Laggy- to win D5.

Hai, Rubix.

Mans0n
06-2-2008, 05:26 PM
Hai, hope i win my division, and i hope im not in d5.

Waffl3
06-2-2008, 05:31 PM
I've been reading the thread, and i cant seem to find it anywhere. Whens this thing start?

Adamaja456
06-2-2008, 05:31 PM
sometime on june 9th waffl3

(if everything is going the way its supposed to be going)

igotrhythm
06-2-2008, 05:32 PM
Oshi...Rubix is in this? We are all going to get ****ing wrecked...

Villiex
06-2-2008, 05:34 PM
Not really, igot. Only D5 is.

foilman8805
06-2-2008, 05:40 PM
I hope you get put in D5, Villy. :D

I mean, 400+ AAA's in a month? You're asking for it.

Rebirth0
06-2-2008, 05:51 PM
Only way I'm playing in this is if I get put into D4 or something. I'd be playing index

IceAgez_101
06-2-2008, 05:54 PM
even tho i wont make far in this tourney
ill still try it out =P

Izzy
06-2-2008, 06:00 PM
Are all of the songs going to be released at once or are you going to release them as the rounds go by?

8 Hour Whore
06-2-2008, 06:01 PM
So, whats the difference in the Difficulties of each Division?
I mean I know D1 being lowest and D5 being highest but whats the range of Difficulty in each division?

Tasselfoot
06-2-2008, 06:07 PM
as the rounds go by. 5 songs at a time.

DayMan951
06-2-2008, 06:11 PM
Will you make a new genre for tournament songs or just put them in existing genres?

Villiex
06-2-2008, 06:12 PM
@Erich: I could say something like "Yeah, but my AAAs are easy and I'm not that good and blahblahblah", but if they put me in D5, I'll just do my best, make it as far as I can, and hopefully have fun with it.

I think everyone expects to be put in a division they can do well in. If that was the case, we'd have final rounds with 200+ people in them. People are going to lose in their divisions. Sorry if you reading this are one of those.

Kairon
06-2-2008, 06:19 PM
Only way I'm playing in this is if I get put into D4 or something. I'd be playing index

Ooh. You're on.

Turboyoshi
06-2-2008, 06:21 PM
In in in

MrRubix
06-2-2008, 06:23 PM
It'd actually cause too much drama, so I'm not really going to enter

Commandersa1
06-2-2008, 06:24 PM
Eh actually. Why not.

In!

Haha, now this will be funny to watch.

Edit: What!? You should enter, Laggy is definitely as skilled as you.

EAGAMES
06-2-2008, 06:26 PM
as the rounds go by. 5 songs at a time.
About how many new songs will there be in total by the time the tournament ends?

Tasselfoot
06-2-2008, 06:27 PM
The song will go into Hip-Hop for convenience. When the next batch of songs get added, the previous ones will be moved to their correct locations.

EAG: you can do math. :)

zoogarama
06-2-2008, 06:28 PM
About how many new songs will there be in total by the time the tournament ends?

5 x 10 = 50
EDIT:
EAG: you can do math. :)

Oops I did it for him tass. Sorry. :)

EAGAMES
06-2-2008, 06:28 PM
The song will go into Hip-Hop for convenience. When the next batch of songs get added, the previous ones will be moved to their correct locations.

EAG: you can do math. :)
I'm too lazy. Fine I'll go do it.

EDIT: *Looks at Zoogarma's post* Haha, 50! I didn't know how many rounds there were. Thanks Zoogarma.

CosmicRain
06-2-2008, 06:32 PM
Just one question, when will the first round start? If there is no specific date, then about which week?

EAGAMES
06-2-2008, 06:32 PM
About next week most likely.

25thhour
06-2-2008, 06:51 PM
Rawr, Can't wait to play.

Nuggit
06-2-2008, 06:53 PM
Woot i'm in XD. question! how do you know when everything starts? thread? private message?

Frozen Beat
06-2-2008, 07:12 PM
I forfeit. I had no idea it'd last that long.

Let me know if that's possible. =/

zoogarama
06-2-2008, 07:28 PM
Woot i'm in XD. question! how do you know when everything starts? thread? private message?

You pay attention to the forum and use your 1st grade reading skills.

hazard195
06-2-2008, 07:59 PM
*sits patiently in wait while Epic Failing at CIA Rave* God forsaken song..... I feel like I'm mashing every time I play it.

Frozen Beat
06-2-2008, 08:00 PM
Always listen to you urges.

As long as you have good ones...

Sprite-
06-2-2008, 08:06 PM
Updated as of 9:00PM EST.

igotrhythm
06-2-2008, 08:06 PM
True...we would only have to watch this thread and look at which song is for our division. Thus, we probably wouldn't need a "tournament songs" genre.

By the way, Rubix, you should SO go out for this just so we could have an epic Shash vs. Rubix final in D5! :D

MrRubix
06-2-2008, 08:11 PM
It'd case too much whining from stupid people -- I know I'd win anyway. Although against Laggy, honestly, I don't know. His scores pretty much tie mine so it'd be close on that front.

foilman8805
06-2-2008, 08:15 PM
cetaka could probably give you a run for your money too.

MrRubix
06-2-2008, 08:26 PM
Nah, not at all lmao

dore
06-2-2008, 08:27 PM
Is this bracketed or no?

Dominewyorican
06-2-2008, 08:32 PM
Also, you appear to have joined in 2006 rather than "yesterday"

I meant I signed up for the tourney yesterday....and if from that point is where I'll be placed by lol. But yeah sprite pretty much answered my question.

devonin
06-2-2008, 08:49 PM
Is this bracketed or no?

No, it will just be "Everyone in Division X plays the song, the top Y people advance."

OmegaCrowman
06-2-2008, 09:01 PM
My money for the D5 tourney is on Izzy. No one seems to be backing him and his skills up so I will :) Anime fans ftw.

zoogarama
06-2-2008, 09:02 PM
My money for the D5 tourney is on Izzy. No one seems to be backing him and his skills up so I will :) Anime fans ftw.

I think Izzy is still recovering from the game whore competition we had not too long ago. XD

Nightfirecat
06-2-2008, 09:11 PM
I agree.

BTW: Good luck if I face you zoo xD

And lol. Rubix vs. laggy. This is gonna be epic.

Tasselfoot
06-2-2008, 09:11 PM
the tournament is free-for-all.

Izzy
06-2-2008, 09:14 PM
Laggy would wtf pwn me. I wouldn't stand a chance without 2.5x speed mod.

jugglinguy
06-2-2008, 09:16 PM
Someone beat mans0n for me =)

EAGAMES
06-2-2008, 09:16 PM
Laggy would wtf pwn me. I wouldn't stand a chance without 2.5x speed mod.
Screen cut. That should help a bit.

Commandersa1
06-2-2008, 09:18 PM
Laggy and MrRubix are the only people with an average rank of 1 and T0. :/

If MrRubix does not compete, Laggy will most definitely own up on D5.

Izzy
06-2-2008, 09:21 PM
Screencutting doesn't spread the notes out. It just puts less notes on the screen.

zoogarama
06-2-2008, 09:24 PM
I agree.

BTW: Good luck if I face you zoo xD

And lol. Rubix vs. laggy. This is gonna be epic.

I'm taking you out Night, just try not to get left behind in my wake.

Goldspark
06-2-2008, 09:24 PM
I posted a few pages back but I don't appear to be on the list. Can you make sure I'm on there? Thanks.

Commandersa1
06-2-2008, 09:26 PM
I posted a few pages back but I don't appear to be on the list. Can you make sure I'm on there? Thanks.

Did you click the sign up button?

devonin
06-2-2008, 09:27 PM
I posted a few pages back but I don't appear to be on the list. Can you make sure I'm on there? Thanks.

The first post clearly stats in large letters that posting in this thread does not constitute signing up.

gnr61
06-2-2008, 09:33 PM
obviously if rubix plays he will win easily, no competition
laggy will win if rubix doesn't play

assuming they all participate, izzy, samtorx, and loot will probably take the next 3 spots.

the results are pretty predictable but ehh
if new songs are added during the tournament who knows

Nightfirecat
06-2-2008, 09:44 PM
I'm taking you out Night, just try not to get left behind in my wake.

Feh. Empty threats.

obviously if rubix plays he will win easily, no competition
laggy will win if rubix doesn't play

assuming they all participate, izzy, samtorx, and loot will probably take the next 3 spots.

the results are pretty predictable but ehh
if new songs are added during the tournament who knows

Lol.. I'm still betting on DS over izzy, seeing that DS has more AAAs. Dunno about samtorx and loot...

dashoe93
06-2-2008, 09:51 PM
Im going to do worse than before because for some random reason i get goods out the butt. Other than telling me the obvious stuff like me having a wireless keyboard (I switch to wired) what else is making me get goods? I used to get like 2-3 and now i get 20-30.

igotrhythm
06-2-2008, 09:52 PM
Hmm...so I need top 5, not top 8. But since there's a new song every round, I can't exactly practice for this.

Would subscribers have an advantage here because they get to play songs before those that aren't, or are the tournament songs going to be new to everyone?

Nightfirecat
06-2-2008, 09:54 PM
Nothing but the wireless keyboard. The lag time is insignificant in reference to typing, since it all will come up, no errors... But for FFR/SM, it's significantly lagged... Enough to get a good where you hit a note perfectly sometimes...

That's why I prefer wired... And wired keyboards don't need batteries.

Tasselfoot
06-2-2008, 09:54 PM
don't count out jimerax or shash.

demonllama6124
06-2-2008, 09:56 PM
i dont know if this has already been answered, but when will we know what divsion we will be in?

boondocks77
06-2-2008, 10:07 PM
Just wondering, will any new songs come out for the tournament players as time progresses in the tournament itself? Or will you let the top 2 competers in each round play the newest song out for their respective divisions (3rd off. tournament)?
i dont know if this has already been answered, but when will we know what divsion we will be in?
Soon. Sign-ups end June 9, Sprite places everyone in 1 or 2 days, latest should be June 15, but I could only estimate.

xXDeltaXx
06-2-2008, 10:09 PM
i dont know if this has already been answered, but when will we know what divsion we will be in?

its going to come out in the next week or 2...patience is the key ;)

gnr61
06-2-2008, 10:10 PM
shash is playing? wtf lol
yea theres ya competition

as for ds, i completely forgot he existed hehe. im still doubtful of his legitimacy, but yeah he'd beat izzy and maybe sam or loot

Dominewyorican
06-2-2008, 10:12 PM
Nothing but the wireless keyboard. The lag time is insignificant in reference to typing, since it all will come up, no errors... But for FFR/SM, it's significantly lagged... Enough to get a good where you hit a note perfectly sometimes...

That's why I prefer wired... And wired keyboards don't need batteries.

WHAT?!
*Looking for wire keyboard as we speak*

I've always played with a wireless keyboard...silly me.

P.S. I'm not being sarcastic. I really am looking for a wire one because I wasn't aware of that.

Edit: Yeah it didn't quite work out for me lol. I think too used to the wireless :/

smartdude1212
06-2-2008, 10:20 PM
as for ds, i completely forgot he existed hehe. im still doubtful of his legitimacy

lmfao this made me laugh although I've learned that bitching about legitimacy is pointless so nothing further

Commandersa1
06-2-2008, 10:22 PM
don't count out jimerax or shash.

, but can Shash really pick up where he left off even with the avmiss fix?

smartdude1212
06-2-2008, 10:27 PM
He probably can, no doubt about that. It's just a matter of how long he needs to get accustomed to FFR's timing and stuff again, and the fact that he doesn't have to hit early anymore - that probably won't take long.

Hopefully these D5 songs are full of non-spread friendly patterns. :D Then I might have a fighting chance for a few rounds.

Nightfirecat
06-2-2008, 10:30 PM
WTF. Shash is playing?...

I'm gonna laugh at this.

And yes--wireless keyboards have noticeable lag... I can barely FC challenging songs on wireless keyboards usually.

kcfp_Ice
06-2-2008, 10:44 PM
It's only been like a year since I played competitively, so sure, I'll join :D

zoogarama
06-2-2008, 10:50 PM
I AM GOING TO MAKE A PREDICTION!!!

I predict that there will be at least two people (if not more) who ask "Hey why aren't I on the list? I said I wanted in on the forum," when Round 1 starts.

xXDeltaXx
06-2-2008, 10:54 PM
I AM GOING TO MAKE A PREDICTION!!!

I predict that there will be at least two people (if not more) who ask "Hey why aren't I on the list? I said I wanted in on the forum," when Round 1 starts.

haha ur right...people are ALREADY positng like that saying. Quick put me on the list before deadlines!. Im just gonna laugh O=)

zoogarama
06-2-2008, 10:58 PM
haha ur right...people are ALREADY positng like that saying. Quick put me on the list before deadlines!. Im just gonna laugh O=)

Yes but most of them are getting told by people who actually read the rules to go push the magic button of doom. It'll be the lame ones that don't check back on the thread to see all of this and are going to get left out.

foilman8805
06-2-2008, 10:58 PM
I was actually going to check how many tards said they wanted in on the front page news post. That would be great.

OmegaCrowman
06-2-2008, 11:12 PM
He probably can, no doubt about that. It's just a matter of how long he needs to get accustomed to FFR's timing and stuff again, and the fact that he doesn't have to hit early anymore - that probably won't take long.

Hopefully these D5 songs are full of non-spread friendly patterns. :D Then I might have a fighting chance for a few rounds.

We all know Shash is good and definately used to be among the best, but I know the situation he's going to be in after not playing for so long. I havent officially played FFR in a little over 6 months now, but I still play a couple games a month when not logged in and I can say after not playing seriously for so long, it REALLY messes up your ability to read FFR stream. Plus PA is a little thrown off too. I used to be able to bf or sdg Tension just about every time but now when I play it, it's like "Omg vietnam wall of notes!" and I'm extremely lucky just to fc these days.

Granted, everybody's different so maybe he wouldnt have lost his ability to read the notes, but I know I sure have.

x After Dawn x
06-3-2008, 12:31 AM
So many members...I feel sorry for Sprite and Tass, you guys must have a lot of patience and devotion for this.

gnr61
06-3-2008, 12:39 AM
if shash wasn't put in D5...........rofl

zoogarama
06-3-2008, 01:32 AM
I say we just make the tourny start now because I'm bored as right now. :/

Breakdown16
06-3-2008, 01:35 AM
I say we start it months later so I can improve a lot.

zoogarama
06-3-2008, 01:37 AM
You'll be fine and btw, you might wanna update your siggy since Shox already won the competition. :)

Breakdown16
06-3-2008, 02:07 AM
Yeah. I'll be fine, as in "I will give an average performance and get eliminated and win nothing." (Yeah, I'm such a pessimist.)

And ok, that's great for Shox. Thanks for reminding me; it's time to have a blank siggy again till I think of something better.

Sprite-
06-3-2008, 05:03 AM
Updated as of 6 AM today.

Goldspark
06-3-2008, 06:51 AM
The first post clearly stats in large letters that posting in this thread does not constitute signing up.

Thanks, I'm an idiot. I just presumed it would be as before and didn't bother reading the first post.

Adamaja456
06-3-2008, 07:27 AM
i use a wireless keyboard and i dont experience lag. I've AAAd Cutting Circles and Carrousel Paradise with it...

anyways i cant wait for this thing to start! A lot more competition compared to last year.

Dominewyorican
06-3-2008, 08:31 AM
i use a wireless keyboard and i dont experience lag. I've AAAd Cutting Circles and Carrousel Paradise with it...

anyways i cant wait for this thing to start! A lot more competition compared to last year.

I tried a wire one last night and it went horrible for me lol. I've always played with this wireless one so I think I'll have to just stick it out. But I will be buying a 20 pack of double A batteries to make sure I'm fully loaded lol.

AirforceAce07
06-3-2008, 08:34 AM
i hope they put me in the lowest division. so i can feel good when i rape :)

Dr.Gertman
06-3-2008, 08:55 AM
my first tournament.. i still am not good in FFR :P

jimerax
06-3-2008, 09:01 AM
If divisions are determined merely by the TP, Shash won't be in D5 since he has only 268 TP now (not even T4).

ps I'm not joining this time, but I'll do some tourney related stuff like song displacement.

TC_Halogen
06-3-2008, 11:02 AM
If divisions are determined merely by the TP, Shash won't be in D5 since he has only 268 TP now (not even T4).

ps I'm not joining this time, but I'll do some tourney related stuff like song displacement.

I'm at 336, so if it were by tiers, then I'd probably be in D4 too?

If I'm not mistaken, no new songs are gonna be played during this tourney. So--wouldn't that mean that the last batch of charts WOULD be in the tourney?

Besides, the queue isn't open until July, which would mean an auto-rejection, regardless of how good it is.

devonin
06-3-2008, 11:12 AM
i hope they put me in the lowest division. so i can feel good when i rape Your division will depend a lot on the skill level of other people around you who signed up, but your stats superficially look a lot like mine last year, and I was put into D2.

If divisions are determined merely by the TP, Shash won't be in D5 since he has only 268 TP now (not even T4).Divisions are not determined merely by the TP. Most other useful stats are factored in, and as much will depend on how large Sprite- wants the top divisions to be as anything else. There are only 100 people in tiers, not all of them will sign up. If Sprite- wants D5 to have 50 people and D4 to have 100 people, chances are very good that D5 will be like, tier 0 through 3 maybe even into 4. But also bear in mind that a lot of the really good SM guys don't actually whore Tier Points. The working theory is that since SPrite- knows these guys, he'll sort them properly regardless of where they are on a high score list.

ps I'm not joining this time, but I'll do some tourney related stuff like song displacement.I -believe- that Tasselfoot actually has each and every song for all divisions and all rounds already picked out and ready to go.