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Goldenwind
July 3rd, 2007, 09:05 AM
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Introduction
Making a stepfile
What you need
Choosing a song
"Where do my files go?"
How '.sm' files work
Stepmania navigation
"Jack Syndrome"
Submission
How to submit your file
The approval process
Extras
Preparing your song for ITG


Introduction
Like soap to acne, this is a step-by-step guide to clear up your oily woes in regards to making a stepfile, and submiting it to FFR!
Oh, 'n by the way? Don't let the length of this guide scare you. I try to explain everything in full, such that newer users can use step-by-step instructions. For an experienced simfile author, the setup could be done in less than a minute.
(Note: A "stepfile" or "simfile" is the technical term for a song bound with steps, used for this, and other similar games.)

Important concepts are highlighted in red (Ironic, no?)



Making a Stepfile
What you need
The basis of a song is the steps ('dwi' or 'sm' format) and the music ('oog' or 'mp3' format).
Optional things you can add in are a banner ('png' format) and background ('png' images, 'avi' movies). To make a song work on SM, ITG, or for FFR submission, you won't need any images, just the steps and music.

Choosing a song
To step a song for FFR, you must have permission to use that song. If you don't have permission (And proof or evidence of it), your file will be rejected for legal reasons.

To get permission for a song, contact the person or organization who own the song, and ask them nicely if you may use their work in FFR.

Some artists have given the FFR community permission to use plenty of their songs already, so this could save you the trouble of asking! To browse these songs, click here (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=68438).

When choosing a song, pay attention to the rhythm, and consider how it might look if it had a stepfile attached to it. There are plenty of really, really good songs out there that would make crappy stepfiles. Make sure this is what you really want!

Also, if you are making this for FFR, due to technicalities, there needs to be 2 (or more) seconds of silence at the beginning of your music file. If there isn't, use an audio editor like to put two seconds in there. One such program is SoundForge (http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/products/soundforgefamily.asp).


"Where do my files go?"
Quick answer: "..\Stepmania\Songs\Song Folder\", but since this seems to be a common misunderstanding, I'll lay it out simply.

Similar to FFR, there is a game out there called Stepmania. It's like a hybrid of DDR and ITG, however comes with no songs. You need to put the songs in yourself! Lucky for you, however, Stepmania has a built-in tool to aid you in writing steps!

You can download Stepmania for free by clicking here (http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/Downloads).

So, where are your files supposed to go?
Visit your Stepmania folder. In here are a bunch of things that will take hours to explain. Ignore them, and go to your Songs folder.

You are now in "..\Stepmania\Songs". Whether or not this folder is empty, create a new folder. Name it whatever you like.

Go into the folder you just made. You are now in "..\Stepmania\Songs\New Folder\". Make another folder in here, and name the folder the same name as your song. If your song is "Artist - Song.mp3", then name your folder "Song".
IMPORTANT: If you are preparing this song for submission to FFR, you must also include your FFR username in the song's foldername.
If your song is "Artist - Song.mp3" and your username is "Hello", the folder should be named exactly "Song (Hello)".

The first folder you made is a category, or grouping. For example, on the ITG2 machines, it has two categories, or "folders", that contain their songs... namely, "ITG" and "ITG2". It's simply a way to sort your songs.

Inside of your category folder, you put your songs. Each song needs to be in its own folder. It is in this folder that you put your files (sm, mp3, etc).

So, as a quick recap, it should look like this:
Stepmania
Songs
Category
Your Song's Name
Put your mp3 file in the "Song (Username)" folder.


How '.sm' files work
There are two ways you can make your steps. One is using a DWI file, and the other is using an SM file. Both work just as well, however DWI is complicated like hell, so we'll be working with SM (Which, if you're curious, is short for 'Stepmania').

In your "Song (Username)" folder, make a new Text (.txt) file. Name it the same as your song's name, "Song.txt" or whatnot. Now the fun part: Rename "Song.txt" to "Song.sm".
Common issue: On some computers, the file extensions (Eg, '.txt') are hidden. This means that when you name your file Song.txt, it is *actually* Song.txt.txt, but the real extension (The second .txt) is hidden. When you rename it to .sm, really you're just changing the name to Song.sm.txt, which is still technically a txt file.

To fix this:
Control Panel --> Folder Options --> View --> Uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types"

Your computer will probably not know how to open this file. Right click on it, and go to "Open With --> Choose Program...". A list will appear in front of you. Check the "Always use this program" checkbox, and select "Notepad" from the list. Hit "Okay".

Notepad is now in front of you. Lovely, isn't it? A nice, white page. Consider it to be paper, and now you are to write your masterpiece! If that doesn't motivate you, go get chocolate or something.

Copy/paste the following into Notepad.
#TITLE:Song Name;
#SUBTITLE:;
#ARTIST:Artist's Name;
#TITLETRANSLIT:;
#SUBTITLETRANSLIT:;
#ARTISTTRANSLIT:;
#CREDIT:;
#BANNER:Banner.png;
#BACKGROUND:;
#LYRICSPATH:;
#CDTITLE:;
#MUSIC:Song.mp3;
#OFFSET:-0.000;
#SAMPLESTART:;
#SAMPLELENGTH:;
#SELECTABLE:YES;
#BPMS:0.000=150.000;
#STOPS:;
#BGCHANGES:;
In "TITLE", put the name of your song.
In "ARTIST", put the name of the artist of the song.
If you have a banner in '.png' format, put the file's name in "BANNER".
In "MUSIC", put the name of your mp3 file.

Save the file, and close Notepad.


Stepmania navigation
You are now ready to step your first notes!
Go back to the main Stepmania folder, and run "StepMania".

Using the arrow keys to navigate, and Enter to confirm, choose the "Edit/Sync Songs" option.

Using up/down to move your cursor, and left/right to change the option, set up your screen as follows:
Set "Group" to what you named your category folder.
Set "Song" to the name of your song.
Set "Difficulty" to whatever you like. Want these to be the Heavy (Hard) steps for your song? So be it. Whatever you like.
Keep "Action" on "Edit Existing".

As for "StepsType", chances are you want "dance-single". If your file is for FFR, use "dance-single". However, just to explain:
"dance-single" is typical DDR/ITG/FFR play.
"dance-double" is using both dance platforms at once (8 arrows).
"dance-couple" is similar to versus mode (Two players on the same song), however is designed such that you can give them different steps, while being on the same difficulty. This can be used for skits and such.
"dance-solo" is 6-panel play. Up, down, left, right, and the two upper diagonals.


You are now at the main screen, your workstation. Similar to a sheet of music, there are bars in front of you, set in 4/4 timing. Try hitting numbers 1-4. Arrows will appear at the top. This is how you place an arrow. To remove it, press the number again.

Hit the up and down keys. Your position will move to another line. Now try placing another arrow. It should be obvious now, how you can create a string of these arrows.

However, what about notes in other timing? 8th notes, 16th notes, or 12th notes? To do this, use the left and right arrows.

Other crucial keys:

ESC: Main Menu
Enter: Area Menu

1, 2, 3 or 4: Place a left, down, up, or right arrow (Or remove one already present).
Shift+1, 2, 3, or 4: Place a mine (Used in ITG and Stepmania. Not used in FFR).

Up/down: Move positions (PgUp and PgDn do the same, however one measure at a time)
Left/right: Change timings

For other shortcuts, press F1 (In Stepmania, not in your internet browser, silly!)


From here on in, the rest is up to you. My job here is to get you started. It's your job to write ;)

Here's generally what you should do:
1) Measure the BPM of your song. (This tells the game how fast the song is, therefore how fast to send the arrows).
- Find a free tool online that will measure BPMs for you
- Learn how to calculate BPMs by listening, or reading off of the song's digital wave graph
- Ask the song author

2) Measure the offset of your song. (Some songs have 1 second of silence in the beginning of the MP3... or maybe it's 2 seconds... or maybe 1.829 seconds... you need to measure how long it takes to get to the first beat!)
Hint: Negative offset will delay arrows, positive offset will make them come earlier
- Trial and error (F11 and F12 keys)
- Use AutoSync (There's a small blurb on this, available here (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=10170))

3) Write your song.

Useful tips:
- Save (Main Menu) periodically. When you save, it will also create a DWI file. This is normal.
- To test your song, try "Play Whole Song" in the Main Menu
- To spread out the notes more, go to Main Menu --> Player Options, and set Speed to 2x, 3x, or higher


"Jack Syndrome"
FFR, as the name implies, is made in Macromedia Flash. The way the game was made, it runs at 30 frames per second. This means that every second that goes by, the game will be doing its daily duties 30 times. If you hit an arrow, it is in one of those 30 frames.

The first frame is at 0/30ths of a second (Or 0.000)
The second frame is at 1/30th of a second (Or 0.033~)
Etc.

A problem arises when using jacks (One note repeated over again, such as left, left, left, left, left, etc. For more on different pattern types, like jacks, click here (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=37697)).

So what happens if we have a note that is sync'd to 0.027, and another sync'd to 0.036? FFR can only do things on one of these 30 frames, so it will round your notes to the nearest frame, meaning that the 0.027 and 0.036 will both round to 0.033 (Overlapping each other, also known as a 0-frame jack, since there are 0 frames between them, after rounding).

Because of this rounding, and the limitations of Flash, you will get credit for hitting one of the notes, however will miss the 2nd note.

If there are 1, 2, or 3 frames between them, you might be able to get a Perfect on one note, but no matter what you do, only a Good or Average on the next note. It all depends.

Basically, in general, you should keep away from jacks if you are submitting your file to FFR. Stepmania can handle jacks, FFR can't really.

However, depending on the speed of your jacks, some may be okay!
Give your jacks a diagnosis by clicking here (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=70347)!


Submission
How to submit your file
Go to your category folder.
Right click on your song's folder, and either WinZip (http://www.winzip.com/prod_down.htm) it, or WinRar (http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm) it.

E-mail the Zip or Rar file to tasselfoot@gmail.com

BUT WAIT!
Don't send it yet! Did you check if things were done right?
- As you may have noticed, FFR files have no freeze arrows or mines. Don't put them in your file. Also, only one file in FFR has hands (Triplet/quads), and it was an April Fool's joke, made by staff. Don't put hands in your file either.
- Ensure you have 2 or more seconds of silence in the beginning of your music file
- Ensure you have no 0, 1, 2, or 3-frame jacks. There are exceptions which allow them, but as a general rule, jacks mean disqualification
- Ensure that your song's folder name is in the exact format of "Songname (YourUsername)"
- Ensure that your Zip or Rar file has a dwi file, as well as an mp3
- Ensure there is a folder in your Zip or Rar file (If you made the Zip or Rar file exactly how I said above, then you did it right)
- Ensure you have proven (Explain in the e-mail) that you have permission to use this song!

The approval process
In this thread (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=58177), Tasselfoot posts on which stepfiles made it into the game, or were rejected. Please note, he may or may not update the list on the first page, so if you have files waiting to be "marked", always check the latest posts.

What happens is, Tasselfoot will play the file, and send it off to the two other judges.

Things to note:
- Don't hassle the Tassel. He puts up with much garbage in that thread.
- The approval process can take anywhere from a week, to six months, depending how lazy the judges are feeling. Feel free to poke and prod them, but not too often (See above note)
- If rejected, the judges will give brief commentary on how you could improve


Extras
Preparing your song for ITG
On upgraded ITG machines, you are able to play your own songs (and songs of others) on. All you need to do is put your songs on a USB key, and plug it in!
If made for ITG, your song can have as many hands, freezes, and mines as you wish. Just so ya know ;)

To play your song on ITG, do the following:
- Put in your credits and USB (Doesn't matter which order, as long as it's before you actually spend the credit)

Good luck!

bluguerrilla
July 3rd, 2007, 09:16 AM
You might want to put something in there about quality checking.

Note that only a dwi and mp3 should be present in a folder in the zip.

Also, I'm pretty sure you miss the first and hit the second with jack-syndrome.

In terms of finding the gap you don't need to measure it. As long as you're close with your bpm you can change the gap while playing the entire song. It's really easy to put in some quarter notes, play it and his F11/F12 with tick-assist on.

Mention the 2-second cutoff thing.

Pretty thorough otherwise. Maybe you could add links to the other threads like this one?


Edit: It should be how to make a stepfile, not how to make a song. And is this in the correct forum?

Goldenwind
July 3rd, 2007, 09:28 AM
Note that only a dwi and mp3 should be present in a folder in the zip.
I've been sending in complete packages (SM, DWI, MP3, banner and background), and I've had none be rejected or denied for having "too much". DWI and MP3 are the mandatory files. The way I explained to package them, the DWI and MP3 will be included.

Also, I'm pretty sure you miss the first and hit the second with jack-syndrome.
It depends on the jack. Some of them you will get Perfect on one, but a Good on another... some are so bad, you can't even FC it, as it's gaurenteed you will miss at least one. It depends on the number of frames, and how you hit them.

In terms of finding the gap you don't need to measure it. As long as you're close with your bpm you can change the gap while playing the entire song. It's really easy to put in some quarter notes, play it and his F11/F12 with tick-assist on.
It was a suggestion. I also mentioned trail and error with F11/F12 in my suggestions.

Mention the 2-second cutoff thing.
True. Will do that.

Pretty thorough otherwise. Maybe you could add links to the other threads like this one?
There are links spread throughout my post. Some to download sites for WinZip, WinRar, Stepmania, SoundForge, etc... some to other posts on Jack Syndrome, Blanket Permissions, etc. The guide is designed such that people will take it step by step, therefore I provided the links at the stages people will need them.

Edit: It should be how to make a stepfile, not how to make a song. And is this in the correct forum?
Words are sketchy. Some people use "simfile" and "stepfile" interchangably. FFR has a "Simfile DB", however it's really a database of the steps + the music, is it not? When people open Stepmania, you think "Wow, I have a lot of songs", not "Wow, I have a lot of files", right? It's debatable, but I don't think I was in the wrong.

As for the forum, it's also sketchy. If a forum mod sees it fit elsewhere, it can be moved.

bluguerrilla
July 3rd, 2007, 09:32 AM
It depends on the jack. Some of them you will get Perfect on one, but a Good on another... some are so bad, you can't even FC it, as it's gaurenteed you will miss at least one. It depends on the number of frames, and how you hit them.


I should have clarified. I meant if you were to hit the notes as they should be hit (meaning going along to the music) then you will miss the first and hit the second.

Goldenwind
July 3rd, 2007, 09:37 AM
I should have clarified. I meant if you were to hit the notes as they should be hit (meaning going along to the music) then you will miss the first and hit the second.
When I wrote this up, I remembered hearing it'll go for the later note first, but I wasn't too certain, so instead of taking a chance, I left that out completely.

Relative to writing steps to a song, it doesn't really matter which comes first... the point is to avoid jacks altogether ^^;

But yes, you're right.

DrugstoreCowboy
July 3rd, 2007, 10:29 AM
nice work =]

Tasselfoot
July 3rd, 2007, 01:49 PM
one small thing.... PLEASE try to use only an mp3, not an ogg. while ogg's work in SM, they don't work in Flash. so if I get an ogg, I have to convert it to mp3. which usually results in me spitting off a string of profanity.

and i happened to notice a few ogg submissions in this current batch. *shrugs*

also... to verify... with jacks, you miss the 1st and hit the 2nd early. that's fact.

you can include more than just a dwi/mp3, but those 2 are the mandatory items that i need. and are the only ones that i use or look at.


ps - don't hassle the tassel made me smile.

dore
July 3rd, 2007, 02:14 PM
For the "How .sm files work" section, you can just put in #TITLE:whatever; and Stepmania will do the rest for you.

Elite_Soul
July 6th, 2007, 04:26 AM
Man this isn't working for me! I go to 'Edit/Sync Songs' and it says "No songs are installed". What do I do?

Coolboyrulez0
July 6th, 2007, 07:19 AM
@Elite Soul : You neeed to first import songs go to Program Files >> Stepmania >> Stepmania Tools then Click on Create Song and then import the music file which you want to make steps for :)

cßr

Goldenwind
July 8th, 2007, 11:03 PM
Man this isn't working for me! I go to 'Edit/Sync Songs' and it says "No songs are installed". What do I do?
Check that your folders are set up correctly
Check that your files are in the correct folders
Check that you have at 1 of MP3 or OGG, and 1 of SM or DWI

Ssonik
July 14th, 2007, 12:06 AM
[u]

To play your song on ITG, do the following:
- Ensure that your local ITG machine has been updated to R21 or higher
- Have your music in ".ogg" format. If it's not, get it converted through a program such as SoundForge (http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/products/soundforgefamily.asp).
- Ensure your music is under 2 minutes long. If it is over this duration, ITG will end the song after 120 seconds.
- Pretending that your USB is a category folder, place any song folders you wish onto that USB.

Good luck!

I have not been able to find a r21 do you guys know where one is in CA...well besides disneyland

immawhiteguy
July 14th, 2007, 03:09 PM
Alternately, (as I just found out) You can use Stepmania's "Tools and package explorer" to skip basically most of "Where do my files go?" and "How '.sm' files work".

how I did it was Start > All programs > Stepmania > Stepmania Tools and Package Explorer

The popup that comes up has a selection at the bottom to make a song. Upon clicking it, it prompts you to find the song in your computer (I put mine on my desktop). once you select the song and click OK, it does everything for you.

Then you just go in Stepmania and edit the song and its steps as you wish.

:)

I'm doing that with 3.9 BTW.

Edit: When you "make a song" for the first time, it creates a category called "My Creations". Inside (naturally) is a folder with your song. When you go to edit the song and stuff in Stepmania, and you save your file, it makes the .sm and .DWI at the same time.

Or well, that's what mine told me at the top left corner.

chansey&blisey lover
July 18th, 2007, 10:09 PM
so you must send it to them and if it sucks they most likely will forget it

BEN.(SPEIRS) 7.5
July 19th, 2007, 02:03 AM
So where can I get one of these ogg to mp3 converters?

Goldenwind
July 19th, 2007, 11:18 AM
So where can I get one of these ogg to mp3 converters?

SoundForge can do it, but you'd need to pay, or get a cracked version, of which I NOR FFR ENDORSE OR RECOMMEND YOU DO IN ANY WAY OR FORM
;)

Ssonik
July 26th, 2007, 12:29 PM
Alternately, (as I just found out) You can use Stepmania's "Tools and package explorer" to skip basically most of "Where do my files go?" and "How '.sm' files work".

how I did it was Start > All programs > Stepmania > Stepmania Tools and Package Explorer

The popup that comes up has a selection at the bottom to make a song. Upon clicking it, it prompts you to find the song in your computer (I put mine on my desktop). once you select the song and click OK, it does everything for you.

Then you just go in Stepmania and edit the song and its steps as you wish.

:)

I'm doing that with 3.9 BTW.

Edit: When you "make a song" for the first time, it creates a category called "My Creations". Inside (naturally) is a folder with your song. When you go to edit the song and stuff in Stepmania, and you save your file, it makes the .sm and .DWI at the same time.

Or well, that's what mine told me at the top left corner.

3.95 does not work this way just wanted to point it out

[edit]and btw can it have BPM changes

[second edit]I already have permission from a few artist I just need to make the files now

BEN.(SPEIRS) 7.5
July 26th, 2007, 01:04 PM
SoundForge can do it, but you'd need to pay, or get a cracked version, of which I NOR FFR ENDORSE OR RECOMMEND YOU DO IN ANY WAY OR FORM
;)

I SEE. I BETTER NOT DO THAT THEN.

:)

Tasselfoot
July 26th, 2007, 01:06 PM
Ben: go to www.download.com and search for ogg to mp3 converter. you'll get one right away. I recommend Power MP3 WMA Converter. Freeware, so it's pretty limited... but it isn't that complicated and I've yet to have a problem with it.

Biggest fault is that you can only convert 1 file at a time. And you have to wait 5 seconds each time before it converts. Such are the prices to pay for freeware.

falcondude
July 26th, 2007, 01:10 PM
THATS RIGHT, YOU SHOULDN'T.

[edit]and btw can it have BPM changes

[second edit]I already have permission from a few artist I just need to make the files now

Yes, BPM changes are allowed.

And make sure that Tass sees proof of having permission.

Ssonik
July 27th, 2007, 12:49 AM
THATS RIGHT, YOU SHOULDN'T.



Yes, BPM changes are allowed.

And make sure that Tass sees proof of having permission.

Yea I dont know how to show it but I went and got myself permission I made sure of that and one artist asked that I include the homepage and the myspace if I do get one of his songs up so thats the best proof I got

DJ Arsenault
July 27th, 2007, 04:52 AM
is it possible to do this on a mac?

spinal_compression
July 27th, 2007, 10:06 AM
- Ensure you have 2 or more seconds of silence in the beginning of your music file


How do I add those extra two seconds of silence in? Most songs start up right away.

Ssonik
July 27th, 2007, 05:41 PM
is it possible to do this on a mac?

yea there is Stepmania for Mac OSX

Zageron
July 27th, 2007, 06:15 PM
How do I add those extra two seconds of silence in? Most songs start up right away.

Use the F11 and F12 buttons. You need to make sure that the song starts EXACTLY on the first beat tho. When in stepmania hold ether F11 or F12 and then put a fourth note on the 2nd measure.

Slow the song down to X.7

and keep testing the song until it starts EXACTLY on the beat. (to make it even simpler use the song options in the ESC menu and turn assist tick (ON))

spinal_compression
July 28th, 2007, 02:35 PM
Use the F11 and F12 buttons. You need to make sure that the song starts EXACTLY on the first beat tho. When in stepmania hold ether F11 or F12 and then put a fourth note on the 2nd measure.

Slow the song down to X.7

and keep testing the song until it starts EXACTLY on the beat. (to make it even simpler use the song options in the ESC menu and turn assist tick (ON))

So it's the steps that have to start two seconds in and not the song itself?

Knoobish
July 28th, 2007, 03:55 PM
So it's the steps that have to start two seconds in and not the song itself?

Yes. You can put steps before that, but they will get cut out by the FFR converter I believe.

spinal_compression
July 29th, 2007, 01:41 PM
I'm still a bit confused here.

What if my song starts on let's say the 6th measure (6 seconds in at 60BPM?). Do I still have the F11/F12 thing start at exactly the 2nd measure (2 seconds in at 60BPM?)?

Also is it supposed to be positive or negative?

Knoobish
July 29th, 2007, 01:53 PM
I'm still a bit confused here.

What if my song starts on let's say the 6th measure (6 seconds in at 60BPM?). Do I still have the F11/F12 thing start at exactly the 2nd measure (2 seconds in at 60BPM?)?

Also is it supposed to be positive or negative?

You only NEED 2 seconds of no notes before you put notes in. You can put more than that, say 6 seconds, if you wish. The gap can be positive or negative, depending on where you want the music to actually start.

spinal_compression
July 29th, 2007, 09:51 PM
You only NEED 2 seconds of no notes before you put notes in. You can put more than that, say 6 seconds, if you wish. The gap can be positive or negative, depending on where you want the music to actually start.

I get it now. Thanks for the help.

Ssonik
July 30th, 2007, 12:41 AM
Everyone wants to put songs in FFR..ME TOO!!!!! this is hard one is almost done and the other is done just making sure its ready...im not so sure how to show proof...but i do have it

[EDIT]its done....now i gotta email it

Nyokou
July 30th, 2007, 11:57 AM
yea there is Stepmania for Mac OSX

Too bad there's like no useful program on a Mac called Notepad that will save a .dwi

This pisses me off, I want my laptop back. x[

Ssonik
July 30th, 2007, 06:49 PM
Too bad there's like no useful program on a Mac called Notepad that will save a .dwi

This pisses me off, I want my laptop back. x[

word lol

spinal_compression
July 31st, 2007, 12:22 PM
- Ensure that your song's folder name is in the exact format of "Songname (YourUsername)"


Can someone give me a working example of this?

EDIT: I see song name and ffr username but what about artist name? And can I have spaces?

Zageron
July 31st, 2007, 02:21 PM
Can someone give me a working example of this?

EDIT: I see song name and ffr username but what about artist name? And can I have spaces?
eh... working example?

Foldername: {Flying Away} (Zageron)
Inclusive:;
{Flying Away}.dwi
{Flying Away}.mp3
{Flying Away}BG.jpg (Optional)

------------------------------

Is this what you wanted?

spinal_compression
July 31st, 2007, 09:43 PM
eh... working example?

Foldername: {Flying Away} (Zageron)
Inclusive:;
{Flying Away}.dwi
{Flying Away}.mp3
{Flying Away}BG.jpg (Optional)

------------------------------

Is this what you wanted?

Yea that works but what about artist name?

Also I have the following other extra files...
.dwi.old
.sm
.sm.old

What about those?

Zageron
July 31st, 2007, 09:49 PM
The artists name goes into the dwi.
You aren't included in the .dwi at all. I don't think.

spinal_compression
July 31st, 2007, 09:59 PM
The artists name goes into the dwi.
You aren't included in the .dwi at all. I don't think.

How do I put the artist name into the .dwi?

Also do I just delete the other 3 files that I have in the folder?

Zageron
July 31st, 2007, 10:11 PM
Gonna go into detail here.
Heres what it should look like:
Starting at the Folder!
> {Flying Away} (Zageron)
>> {Flying Away}.mp3
>> {Flying Away}_BG.jpg*
>> {Flying Away}.dwi
\/(Inside {Flying Away}.dwi)
#TITLE:{Flying Away};
#ARTIST:cornandbeans;
#FILE:{Flying Away}.mp3;
#BPM:187.000;
#GAP:-1320;
#SAMPLESTART:59.080;
#SAMPLELENGTH:19.840;
#SINGLE:SMANIAC:8: (Step data shows up below this)


*The Background is Completely optional.

spinal_compression
July 31st, 2007, 10:39 PM
Gonna go into detail here.
Heres what it should look like:
Starting at the Folder!
> {Flying Away} (Zageron)
>> {Flying Away}.mp3
>> {Flying Away}_BG.jpg*
>> {Flying Away}.dwi
\/(Inside {Flying Away}.dwi)
#TITLE:{Flying Away};
#ARTIST:cornandbeans;
#FILE:{Flying Away}.mp3;
#BPM:187.000;
#GAP:-1320;
#SAMPLESTART:59.080;
#SAMPLELENGTH:19.840;
#SINGLE:SMANIAC:8: (Step data shows up below this)


*The Background is Completely optional.

PERFECT! Thanks a lot. Hopefully I get my file mailed out tonight.

Ssonik
August 2nd, 2007, 02:43 PM
Gonna go into detail here.
Heres what it should look like:
Starting at the Folder!
> {Flying Away} (Zageron)
>> {Flying Away}.mp3
>> {Flying Away}_BG.jpg*
>> {Flying Away}.dwi
\/(Inside {Flying Away}.dwi)
#TITLE:{Flying Away};
#ARTIST:cornandbeans;
#FILE:{Flying Away}.mp3;
#BPM:187.000;
#GAP:-1320;
#SAMPLESTART:59.080;
#SAMPLELENGTH:19.840;
#SINGLE:SMANIAC:8: (Step data shows up below this)


*The Background is Completely optional.

thats alot of work it works the same way as in SM to put the artist name in...but i guess its faster if u know what ur doing

Zageron
August 2nd, 2007, 03:11 PM
thats alot of work it works the same way as in SM to put the artist name in...but i guess its faster if u know what ur doing
Oh. Yes I know. I use Step mania to do it all. But it's a good idea to go into the .dwi and the .sm to adjust the GAP to be JUST right. Seeing as stepmania goes to the second digit and only by 2s.

bluguerrilla
August 2nd, 2007, 03:13 PM
Oh. Yes I know. I use Step mania to do it all. But it's a good idea to go into the .dwi and the .sm to adjust the GAP to be JUST right. Seeing as stepmania goes to the second digit and only by 2s.

You can do fine tweaking by holding down Alt.

Zageron
August 2nd, 2007, 03:15 PM
You can do fine tweaking by holding down Alt.
Gah! Thanks that saves a few minuets.

Ssonik
August 2nd, 2007, 03:31 PM
Gah! Thanks that saves a few minuets.

lol

darkangelalchemist
August 3rd, 2007, 10:22 PM
How do u make a song for ffr?

darkangelalchemist
August 3rd, 2007, 10:23 PM
im new here so i don't know

Zageron
August 6th, 2007, 12:14 AM
read the rest of the thread mate.

Ssonik
August 6th, 2007, 02:53 AM
How do u make a song for ffr?

waste of a post

1.its all on 1st page very top

2.u double posted last time i did that people yelled at me

crystal_soul
August 6th, 2007, 08:03 PM
dude im so confused, i downloaded the stepmania thing and i followed the instructions best i could but whenever i open the stepmania and go to the edit songs thing, it says "No Songs Installed"



iono what to do so i gave up after trying a few things

Zageron
August 6th, 2007, 08:07 PM
Open stepmania.
Go to options.
Click on Reload songs/steps.
If you've installed a few songs using the program folder features. Then this should work.

crystal_soul
August 7th, 2007, 03:05 PM
Open stepmania.
Go to options.
Click on Reload songs/steps.
If you've installed a few songs using the program folder features. Then this should work.
thats the thing, iono how to install them >.<

Ssonik
August 7th, 2007, 09:11 PM
thats the thing, iono how to install them >.<

my friend had that promblem are u on vista cause SM is a pain in the butt on windows vista

Zageron
August 7th, 2007, 09:15 PM
Vista sucks...

hmm
local disk (C)/program files/step mania/program/smpackage.exe
click the bottom button. pick your music file.

Ssonik
August 8th, 2007, 11:37 PM
Vista sucks...

hmm
local disk (C)/program files/step mania/program/smpackage.exe
click the bottom button. pick your music file.

this is why i got a version of Halo 2 vista for my XP

punky_chick_2
August 22nd, 2007, 01:29 PM
can someone tell me how to make a song for ffr....just send me a private message please

APOKOLIPS99
August 22nd, 2007, 05:48 PM
Can we use songs lik "Like A Surgeon" or "White And Nerdy"??

Goldenwind
August 25th, 2007, 10:45 PM
I've been getting some questions about the steps in this, so I'm working on a video tutorial at the moment.

Just a note, there are many many ways to make it, this is just how I do it. My way works, but is not the only way.

dore
August 25th, 2007, 11:10 PM
For the jack syndrome section, include:

5-framers: No overlap at all, you will only avmiss if you hit the first arrow late.
4-framers: The last perfect frame will be covered up. You have to hit one of the early frames to get perfects on both arrows. The only way your file will get rejected for 4-framers is if you have 8435843 in a row (like AIM Anthem).
3-framers: 2/3 of the perfect window is covered up. You have to hit extremely early to avoid avmissing. Your file will most likely get rejected for 3-framers unless you are stepping an extremely technical classical piece of music.
2-framers: Impossible to AAA, you must hit before the perfect window to avoid an avmiss. Your file will be rejected for 2-framers unless it is a FGO (difficulty 12/12) classical piece, and even then it might not go through.
0/1-framers:Don't do it.
------
C/P, reword it, whatever, but in the current guide the jack system is not really explained well.

Xandertrax
August 25th, 2007, 11:28 PM
Can you put that in "Are my Jack's Okay?", dore, for quick and easy referencing?

CodeLabMaster
August 25th, 2007, 11:59 PM
As for the blanket permissions from the artists, does that mean that any cover songs that band has made of other artists work is also permissible?

In other words, if band A made a song, and band B did a cover for it and then gave blanket permission to use their songs, can I use band B's cover song for a stepfile?

Goldenwind
August 26th, 2007, 12:00 AM
Video uploaded, and available at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYfL1PuOg8g

Goldenwind
August 26th, 2007, 12:06 AM
As for the blanket permissions from the artists, does that mean that any cover songs that band has made of other artists work is also permissible?

In other words, if band A made a song, and band B did a cover for it and then gave blanket permission to use their songs, can I use band B's cover song for a stepfile?

If B lets you use their song, you can. It's B's problem if they didn't get legal permission to make the cover from A.

I don't have proof that this is true, but this makes sense to me.

dore
August 26th, 2007, 01:04 AM
Can you put that in "Are my Jack's Okay?", dore, for quick and easy referencing?

Yeah, I just found a proxy with a working edit button :)

RubiedCross
August 26th, 2007, 01:28 AM
Umm... I'm having a problem sending my song to Tass.

I attatch the file to the email, put all my stuff in, put in Tass's email address... And when it's sending, it says error, and something about hotmail.

Help please :???:

I'm probably just being dumb though..

Goldenwind
August 26th, 2007, 01:32 AM
Umm... I'm having a problem sending my song to Tass.

I attatch the file to the email, put all my stuff in, put in Tass's email address... And when it's sending, it says error, and something about hotmail.

Help please :???:

I'm probably just being dumb though..

Can you specify "something about hotmail"?
Even type out the error? :P

RubiedCross
August 26th, 2007, 01:38 AM
Haha, sure. Wait one sec...

"Could not connect to hotmail as %s.

Hotmail no longer allows emails access via Outlook Express for free email accounts.

Account : "hotmail", Server: "http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp", Protocol: HTTPMail, Server Response: 'Access to Hotmail via Outlook and Outlook Express now requires a subscription. Please sign up at http://join.msn.com/general/Email', Port: 0, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 998, Error Number: 0x800CCCF6"

Now that I read it, I'm guessing I either have to send it via my hotmail account, or sign up at the site.

Just tell me though, just to make sure :-D

Goldenwind
August 26th, 2007, 01:40 AM
Haha, sure. Wait one sec...

"Could not connect to hotmail as %s.

Hotmail no longer allows emails access via Outlook Express for free email accounts.

Account : "hotmail", Server: "http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp", Protocol: HTTPMail, Server Response: 'Access to Hotmail via Outlook and Outlook Express now requires a subscription. Please sign up at http://join.msn.com/general/Email', Port: 0, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 998, Error Number: 0x800CCCF6"

Now that I read it, I'm guessing I either have to send it via my hotmail account, or sign up at the site.

Just tell me though, just to make sure :-D

By the sounds of it, you're using Outlook to go *through* hotmail to send your message, and it sounds like hotmail no longer allows you to do this.

So yes, use hotmail.com to send it.

RubiedCross
August 26th, 2007, 01:41 AM
K, thank you very much.

My file most likely won't be accepted though.

It's Yager, and I have quite a few 1 framers/0 framers ;P

Goldenwind
August 26th, 2007, 01:45 AM
K, thank you very much.

My file most likely won't be accepted though.

It's Yager, and I have quite a few 1 framers/0 framers ;P

To be honest, I wouldn't even submit it if you have 1 and 0 framers.
Either keep it as a non-FFR song, or fix it up a little jack-wise.

RubiedCross
August 26th, 2007, 01:49 AM
Yeah, I'll probably dim down the jacks and crap.

Or just start on a different song.

But not tonight though. It's 2 in the morning, and I'm tired.

ChristaS
September 22nd, 2007, 05:04 PM
hpw exaclt do you post a song?? :???:

RubiedCross
September 23rd, 2007, 11:19 AM
hpw exaclt do you post a song?? :???:

Once you have made the song, you have to convert it into a zip file. Once you have the file, open g-mail (Or use your regular e-mail provider) and send your file (As an attachment) with proof that the author has allowed you to do it, to Tass at his g-mail account, which I believe is TASSELFOOT@GMAIL.com

Hope that helps.



EDIT:: Oh yeah, forgot this was the actual thread for making songs. Just check the first page if this doesn't help. It should be under the "Submission" section.

bboyxshinobi
November 4th, 2007, 11:41 PM
lol ill probably never be able to make a song

Goldenwind
December 10th, 2007, 06:58 AM
Will be updating this sometime this month, in theory. Just a heads up for any aspiring artists.

- Making it easier to understand
- Bit more clarification on how to work files with ITG
- Adding content on how to sync a song
- lrc (Lyric) files
- Adding stops
- How stops and BPM changes affect FFR

Want something else in here? Say so!

negrolol
December 26th, 2007, 04:26 PM
LOL xD

Assassain
February 20th, 2008, 04:38 PM
- Ensure you have 2 or more seconds of silence in the beginning of your music file

does that mean 2 seconds you cant hear sound or 2 seconds of no beats coming? cus i cant afford the sound thingy to make it have 2 seconds of no music D=

negrolol
February 20th, 2008, 04:52 PM
No Se Ingles ¬¬

Goldenwind
February 25th, 2008, 05:32 AM
- Ensure you have 2 or more seconds of silence in the beginning of your music file

does that mean 2 seconds you cant hear sound or 2 seconds of no beats coming? cus i cant afford the sound thingy to make it have 2 seconds of no music D=
No notes in the first 2 seconds. If you plan to have notes playing in the beginning of your song, edit the song by putting 2 seconds of silence in the beginning (Therefore the first sound will be 2 seconds into the song, so you won't have to cut off any beats).

xinpig
February 25th, 2008, 10:05 AM
nice bump ^^

rshadow8888
February 25th, 2008, 02:59 PM
nice bump ^^

Pay attention. Stickies are aloud to be bumped.

Plus, useful info was added to the thread, so it was an acceptable bump as well.

DoctorSerpentine
February 25th, 2008, 04:49 PM
Pay attention. Stickies are aloud to be bumped.

Plus, useful info was added to the thread, so it was an acceptable bump as well.

aloud.
p.s. xinpig is an idiot.

t-rogdor
March 23rd, 2008, 01:35 PM
Tutorial is in need of an update, as i think they allow hands in FFR now
(I mean, Blooddrunk has them..)

buizel8888
March 23rd, 2008, 02:39 PM
Tutorial is in need of an update, as i think they allow hands in FFR now
(I mean, Blooddrunk has them..)

Well, they are allowed but not encouraged. They are only to be used if they are absolutely necessary.

fele5200
April 4th, 2008, 04:18 PM
ok k then this is cool then what ffr you to be!!

robertsona
April 4th, 2008, 04:21 PM
ok k then this is cool then what ffr you to be!!
rofl what

Redsky139
April 13th, 2008, 08:56 AM
- Ensure you have 2 or more seconds of silence in the beginning of your music file

does that mean 2 seconds you cant hear sound or 2 seconds of no beats coming? cus i cant afford the sound thingy to make it have 2 seconds of no music D=

There are free, open source audio editors out there (like Audacity; http://audacity.sourceforge.net/). It might be helpful to recommend this program in addition to Soundforge in this already very thorough, very helpful guide.

Rad3n
April 16th, 2008, 02:37 AM
my friend had that promblem are u on vista cause SM is a pain in the butt on windows vista

I'm on vista and I can't seem to save the .sm file. It opens into notepad then I paste in the data but it won't save... you say vista is a pain right; so there's a way around this?

cetaka
April 16th, 2008, 02:12 PM
i think you just have to take it out of program files before you save any changes to it. there's probably a way to force vista to let you save changes to files in program files but then you would be Exposed to Ver Dangerous Viruses...

also, why do you even need to change the .sm manually in the first place?

Rad3n
April 17th, 2008, 06:51 AM
who me? because the guide said too.... so I did.

megamon88
April 17th, 2008, 06:58 AM
I think Rad3n means that he had to rename the file from (name).txt to (name).sm but he can't. I think on vista, the file name extensions are hidden. If they are, then on the first page it says how to change the settings.

TD_boredom
April 17th, 2008, 07:05 AM
I'm on vista and I can't seem to save the .sm file. It opens into notepad then I paste in the data but it won't save... you say vista is a pain right; so there's a way around this?

Vista is hard to manage, that's why i'm downgrading to XP ASAP.

this guide is alright.

Rad3n
April 17th, 2008, 07:07 AM
I like vista.... but what do I need to do... I'm not getting any new info here, just a consensus that vista sucks.

All I need to know is why I can't save (is that even vista's fault).

And How to fix it would be nice... but I can probably work that out.

Thanks again

JenovaSephiroth
April 17th, 2008, 12:01 PM
I like vista.... but what do I need to do... I'm not getting any new info here, just a consensus that vista sucks.

All I need to know is why I can't save (is that even vista's fault).

And How to fix it would be nice... but I can probably work that out.

Thanks again

There are two options.

1. You can turn UAC (User Account Control) off. I wouldn't recommend that, though. It leaves you wide open.

2. Go to your Stepmania program folder (the one probably found in Program Files), right click, and go to Properties. Then go to the Security tab. You'll see a list of user types (administrator, users, etc). Click on Users, and then click on Edit. (You probably have UAC on if you're using this method, so UAC will bring up that all-too-familiar dialog. You know what to do.) Check all of the checkboxes in the Allow column, and click OK. Now you should be fine.

Rad3n
April 20th, 2008, 11:36 PM
All the boxes were checked..... I got pwned by vista

also, no. I did save it as a song.sm not a song.sm.txt (I had to change options in control panel to do that). If it was song.sm.txt I would be able to save it though because you can always open a txt file in notepad. but a .sm file, you can't open one of those.




IT'S OK NOW I FIXED IT :D .... thanks for the assistance.... ^_^

SonicFlasher
June 11th, 2008, 03:45 PM
This is too overwhelming...
I'd love to make an FFR song
but ffr makes this more difficult than it should be

Vanilla Mnm
June 11th, 2008, 04:09 PM
Yeah, seriously, this is way to overwelming, but it's obviously easy for some people & it looks like you'll never see me " make my own arrow garden. "

robertsona
June 11th, 2008, 04:10 PM
IMO it's quite easy, but whatever. If you're going to just give up...

Xx{Midday}xX
June 13th, 2008, 04:02 PM
If you take one look at SM, everything else comes quite naturally in my opinion. Most people can tell when they're doing a crappy job.

This sticky title is misleading... at first I thought this thread was about the standards of making stepworthy music. =/

jimerax
June 13th, 2008, 08:37 PM
fixed.

Knoobish
June 13th, 2008, 09:07 PM
Probably should take out the part about jack syndrome.

ddz
July 15th, 2008, 02:24 PM
Probably should take out the part about jack syndrome.

i have a problem i cant seem to be able to put pics in the simfile lik banners or backgrounds i read the readme but it didnt really didnt help. or one of those spinning logo things that showswho made it PLEASE HELP!!!!!!

AznGreen
July 31st, 2008, 07:27 PM
i already got the steps in mind, but i still don't know how to determine the bpm D=. i don't know what program to use either.

who_cares973
July 31st, 2008, 08:29 PM
azngreen use a tap along bpm finder

like winbpm

or you can always use mixmeister

AznGreen
July 31st, 2008, 08:44 PM
azngreen use a tap along bpm finder

like winbpm

or you can always use mixmeister

thanx alot =D iou

loucst
August 23rd, 2008, 11:31 AM
Can you step your song before doing all of this? Because that might have screwed me up.
D:

thehunter1117
August 23rd, 2008, 12:35 PM
really thanks alot
!

loucst
August 23rd, 2008, 01:34 PM
Could you add some pictures of what it would look like? That would help me a lot, because I read everything from the last word, and did everything I was supposed to do, but it's not appearing in Stepmania. Help?

echo419a
September 6th, 2008, 04:06 AM
Not sure if anyone else mentioned, but SM does have its own Song importer, SMPACKAGE in the program directory.

DJAirWave
September 11th, 2008, 01:45 AM
Not sure if anyone else mentioned, but SM does have its own Song importer, SMPACKAGE in the program directory.


Yes, for Windows users with Stepmania 3.9

Musiks
October 19th, 2008, 10:42 PM
I was actually going to step Eiya's RPG and get SM on my Ubuntu MacBook. No sound. I used to step alot back in the day, sucks I can't bring back those nostalgic moments on Ubuntu. I guess I'll just go masturbate.

Bolth mannn
October 22nd, 2008, 05:54 AM
ok lol, im stuck at the stepmania/songs part (yes im a noob) ANYWAY, i go to stepmania in my files...what 'songs' do i click on to make the top thing say 'stepmania/songs???


also, if an artist has given blanket permission, do i need to give tass proof of permission or do i just send in the file.

Xandertrax
October 22nd, 2008, 01:38 PM
Go to your C: (or whatever drive is your main one) -> program files -> stepmania -> songs. Then you can either put your songs in there or in sub-folders within that.

If an artist gives blanket permission, there's no need to give tass proof.

Bolth mannn
October 22nd, 2008, 04:02 PM
thanks dude, i hav now made it a bit further lol...how do you make a txt file?

Bolth mannn
October 23rd, 2008, 02:07 AM
ok i now know exactly how to make a stepfile...i just have one question...when i go to save my txt file into my folder...it brings up a messege saying 'you do not have the permission save in this folder...please contact the administrator for more help...do you want to save in ---- instead'

1) i am the administrator and i still have no idea how to do it...ive checked user settings and computer manager but nothings changed...

2) I MADE the folder and i didnt tick any 'dont let others save here' boxes or anything.

this part is the only thing that confuses me...other than that, im ready to go.

Bethzles
November 20th, 2008, 08:00 PM
I dunno if this was already pointed out, but a metronome is a WONDERFUL tool for stepfiling.
You can get one for pretty cheap at most music stores, and high-quality ones cost anywhere from 20 to 40 dollars. I have a 35 dollar one and I adore it. It's helpful! Really it is. ;)

who_cares973
November 20th, 2008, 08:13 PM
I dunno if this was already pointed out, but a metronome is a WONDERFUL tool for stepfiling.
You can get one for pretty cheap at most music stores, and high-quality ones cost anywhere from 20 to 40 dollars. I have a 35 dollar one and I adore it. It's helpful! Really it is. ;)

or you could use assist tick and put a note every 4th

Bethzles
November 20th, 2008, 09:32 PM
or you could use assist tick and put a note every 4th

True, but where's the challenge in that? ;D

who_cares973
November 20th, 2008, 09:42 PM
True, but where's the challenge in that? ;D


what's the point in wasting 30-40 dollars on a metronome that would only be used to step files O.o

Redsky139
November 23rd, 2008, 12:42 PM
I'd like to add a simple background to my stepfile. More specifically, I'd like the background to change at different points during the music. I just want some simple white text to open the piece, then at a certain point I want the the text to change to say something else, and then I'd like it to change one more time near the end of the piece.

I'm going to set about trying to figure out how to do this. If someone can tell me how it would be appreciated.

EDIT: figured it out. It was easier than I thought. Still...It would be much more helpful if someone could answer my real question:

Does FFR accept files with backgrounds anymore?

I know SGX files normally have a background and some of the old blue arrow songs have moving backgrounds, but I haven't seen a new file with a background in a long time. Let me know - I'm almost ready to submit a file revision and would like to add this before submitting if at all possible. Thanks!

dore
November 23rd, 2008, 01:20 PM
Backgrounds are not allowed on new files... you can include them in your submission but it will never be included in the game (and I doubt any of the judges have backgrounds on anyway).

To do a BG change, you use the BG change menu in the main menu on 3.9. I have no idea how it works but do some trial and error and I'm sure you'll figure it out.

Redsky139
November 23rd, 2008, 01:28 PM
Thanks dore. Trail and error did it. I'll also note the files you'd like to be the background need to be in the song folder along with your .sm and .mp3 files.

It's unfortunate that backgrounds are not allowed on new files. In this case, the text is actually a part of the piece (though of course I understand it would have no influence on the judges. The steps are the important part to them.) C'est la vie. Thanks again.

robertsona
November 28th, 2008, 09:31 PM
take out part about jacks etc.