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aperson
January 19th, 2004, 08:47 PM
The introduction for a much larger piece of work I'm doing.

Apparently I've finally found a way to make reaktor my melodywhore...
http://zastari.acunett.com/aperson_axil.mp3

DJCynispin
January 19th, 2004, 09:13 PM
Sounds like it's going to be a solid white noise piece. Do you do any dancefloor style songs? (any genre)

SuperGreenX
January 19th, 2004, 09:32 PM
Oooh. You use reaktor? I've fiddled around with it. Its quite powerfull!

Anyways, quite cool stuff. I'm really diggin what you've made here. Good ambient!

aperson
January 19th, 2004, 11:24 PM
Sounds like it's going to be a solid white noise piece. Do you do any dancefloor style songs? (any genre)

No, anything that you can dance to isn't interesting enough for me really.

Oooh. You use reaktor? I've fiddled around with it. Its quite powerfull!

After 4 months reaktor still scares the crap out of me... So complicated and powerful.

SpookG
January 20th, 2004, 01:28 AM
Aperson, if you haven't heard anything interesting that you can dance to, then you are only listening to crappy music.

There was this cd my friend had, called the Japanese American Noise treaty, which was a cd of white noise "music". It was total crap, and whitenoise isn't even music. Contest this if you want, but it is the truth. I wouldn't consider this a white noise piece, cynispin, because it had orchestral sounds to it, which by definition makes it not white noise since it has tone :)


Your piece reminded me of some bad 80s music i heard on VH1 once, where they would go from opening to verse to chorus and back against without ever building up or releasing much tension, if any at all. It makes for boring, uninteresting music, because it is static and flat the entire time, and while it may not be repetitive, there is nothing to ground it and bring it together.

Really, it just reminded me of all the times I would go see my friends play with their orchestras and they'd be warming up before the first chair came out to tune them.

Take all this how you want, but I am one of the few on these forums who have written music from rock to trance, DnB to ambient, classical to punk.. Once you look beneath the surface you will find all music operates on the same level, and listening to a wider variety will only enhance your understanding of it.

DJ Spooky was a founder of the NYC chillout scene, and he wrote some sick **** with ambient. Don't be afraid to put a bassline in there and give a listener something to nod their heads to, or some kickback groove drums. That's what Spooky did, but his music was never hard dancefloor killers smashing drums and bass all over. the majority of stuff he did was an ambient style, but people danced to it, or at least grooved a bit.

Maybe then you need to redefine your ideas about what you find interesting, unless you like writing boring music Aperson ;)

aperson
January 20th, 2004, 09:18 AM
Aperson, if you haven't heard anything interesting that you can dance to, then you are only listening to crappy music.

There was this cd my friend had, called the Japanese American Noise treaty, which was a cd of white noise "music". It was total crap, and whitenoise isn't even music. Contest this if you want, but it is the truth. I wouldn't consider this a white noise piece, cynispin, because it had orchestral sounds to it, which by definition makes it not white noise since it has tone :)


Your piece reminded me of some bad 80s music i heard on VH1 once, where they would go from opening to verse to chorus and back against without ever building up or releasing much tension, if any at all. It makes for boring, uninteresting music, because it is static and flat the entire time, and while it may not be repetitive, there is nothing to ground it and bring it together.

Really, it just reminded me of all the times I would go see my friends play with their orchestras and they'd be warming up before the first chair came out to tune them.

Take all this how you want, but I am one of the few on these forums who have written music from rock to trance, DnB to ambient, classical to punk.. Once you look beneath the surface you will find all music operates on the same level, and listening to a wider variety will only enhance your understanding of it.

DJ Spooky was a founder of the NYC chillout scene, and he wrote some sick (#$% with ambient. Don't be afraid to put a bassline in there and give a listener something to nod their heads to, or some kickback groove drums. That's what Spooky did, but his music was never hard dancefloor killers smashing drums and bass all over. the majority of stuff he did was an ambient style, but people danced to it, or at least grooved a bit.

Maybe then you need to redefine your ideas about what you find interesting, unless you like writing boring music Aperson ;)

...Is validated by:


The introduction for a much larger piece of work I'm doing


Also, most dancefloor beats bore me is what I'm saying. Hoo ****ing ray you can write a 4/4 piece with some standard club drumsets... that gets old after so long.

This is what interests me: http://zastari.acunett.com/vo_stream_bas.mp3

DJCynispin
January 20th, 2004, 04:08 PM
Sorry dude, you just proved the only dance music you hear is crap.

DJCynispin
January 20th, 2004, 04:10 PM
By the way, DJ Spooky rawks. He gets a lot of his influence from movie soundtrack composers like John Williams and Danny Elfman. White B-Boys know how it's done.

aperson
January 20th, 2004, 04:53 PM
I've listened to DJ Spooky, doesn't really hold my attention.

And Cynispin, if you are so omniscient of the dance floor world, prove me wrong with some mp3s.

SpookG
January 20th, 2004, 06:42 PM
This isn't every other forum on these boards, Aperson. If you want to fight then take it elsewhere..

Sorry, I thought you could handle a bit of negative criticism, but seeing you can't, then I take it all back. There is not point in saying something if the other party will refuse to even consider it.

Please shut up now.

JustJono
January 20th, 2004, 09:00 PM
Oh well, some people take critism harder or looser than others. No biggy.

Aperson,

The beginning of your track almost made me think I was watching The Matrix. I like the ambience in there.

JustJono
January 20th, 2004, 09:08 PM
Sorry dude, you just proved the only dance music you hear is crap.

Hey, IDM's aren't that bad.. well then again, I'm not sure. The only IDM I've heard and like is Aphex Twin - Flim.

eyespewgreekfire
January 20th, 2004, 10:18 PM
umm, interesting dancable music is pretty common. Check out hallucinogen at www.shpongle.com/hallucinogen
if you dont call that **** dancable and interesting then i dont know what is

jewpinthethird
January 20th, 2004, 10:26 PM
I am a big fan of "IDM", but mainly the Ambient-esque style. I dont much like the hardcore fragen drums that drive you half insane. I am more into chill whatnot. Thus, being the reason I really like Aphex Twin.

aperson
January 20th, 2004, 10:42 PM
This isn't every other forum on these boards, Aperson. If you want to fight then take it elsewhere..

Yes, I'm sorry I defend myself against some over-the-top criticism...


Sorry, I thought you could handle a bit of negative criticism, but seeing you can't, then I take it all back.


Some of it is positive. The orchestra warming up? Exactly what I was going for.

Please shut up now.
FAGGOT!!!11

Cenright
January 20th, 2004, 10:54 PM
My feeling from your song.
A man, all alone, comes out of his hiding place. He hid there because of some disaster (unknown, but probably man made). He sees the ruins and rubble of a city he once called his home. He keeps walking around.

(The bells/xylophone come in on the song)
He sights a few things he partially recognizes.

(The rumbles in the song stop)
He picks them up as a remembrance of times long gone.

(Ending notes after the air sound)
The camera positions itself above the man and zooms out to black.


That is what I feel from your song.
Listen to the song again and follow along with my words.

Moogy
January 21st, 2004, 03:54 PM
I played this over Super Metroid, and it matched that game perfectly. So it is officially awesome.

SuperGreenX
January 21st, 2004, 07:50 PM
This isn't every other forum on these boards, Aperson. If you want to fight then take it elsewhere..

Sorry, I thought you could handle a bit of negative criticism, but seeing you can't, then I take it all back. There is not point in saying something if the other party will refuse to even consider it.

Please shut up now.

Wow, chill out man. What he said didn't seem aggressive.

And your "redefine what you think is interesting" line sounds like bull**** to me. If he likes what he's doing then its more important than what you, the listener likes (untill your main goal with the music is to sell it and such). You could have said, "I didn't like it because..... " and "I suggest....." not "You need to change what you are doing because it sucks." People aren't going to consider something if it comes in that form.

Whatever. What you said seemed haughty and overly harsh. It also seems like you can't take critisism of your critisism. Both of you need to learn how to hand out and take critisism better.

Cenright
January 21st, 2004, 11:42 PM
I played this over Super Metroid, and it matched that game perfectly. So it is officially awesome.

Love that game, and yeah, it would mesh pretty well.

sleeplessdragn
January 22nd, 2004, 12:18 AM
you know cenright, i completely see what you mean. your story fully fits in with the music.

DJCynispin
January 22nd, 2004, 07:00 PM
Aiiiiiyiiieeieieiie! Aggression! We're all cool.

The thing is, this site is really about a game based on dance music. Obviously it will get some criticism on this site. I love IDM, but don't much get into the production of it.

No harm, no loss.

aperson
January 22nd, 2004, 07:08 PM
Here Cyni, I made a song you'd like

http://zastari.acunett.com/clubhouse.mp3

SuperGreenX
January 22nd, 2004, 10:51 PM
Here Cyni, I made a song you'd like

http://zastari.acunett.com/clubhouse.mp3

eheh ahahaha. Nice. I hate claps :P

JustJono
January 24th, 2004, 03:42 PM
I'll second that. They don't sound real. I've only used them once and I had to apply a reverb to make it sound decent.

DJCynispin
January 24th, 2004, 08:50 PM
Hahaa!! You're the devil, aperson. I'm gonna write a song for you soon.

By the way, how did you make such a phat beat? You've gotta teach me some time.

Stand by for a song dedicated to aperson!!! (harhar)

DJCynispin
January 24th, 2004, 08:57 PM
Oh, by the way, I'm into polyrythyms, so next time you are making fun of me by way of song, please give it a break-beat. hah

aperson
January 24th, 2004, 09:12 PM
Polyrhythms?
OH **** YOU CAN SYNCOPATE BEATS BY PUTTING THE HIHAT ONE SQUARE EARLIER ON THE FRUITY SEQUENCER. HOT DAMN!

Here, I can too, with amazing melodies to boot: http://zastari.acunett.com/iamgosu.mp3

DJCynispin
January 24th, 2004, 09:44 PM
Haha.

No my boy, I meant something more like this: http://www.baginatree.com/youngone.mp3

This is a dancefloor style song, so you'll have to skip to about 3 mins into the song before anything really happens.
Breakbeat massive!

aperson
January 24th, 2004, 10:13 PM
I hear fruity strings with various amounts of overdrive... and various small nuances.

Bah, this owns it: http://zastari.acunett.com/Twentyknives.mp3

DJCynispin
January 25th, 2004, 12:29 AM
haha, that does own, and has some crazy chopped up beats. However, it is not dancy. So humbug. And I don't get much into classical style production.

And those are 3xosc with one fruity plucked I was using.....damnit!!!! But yes, you definitely win.

DJCynispin
January 25th, 2004, 12:31 AM
Oh, and that's not the song I promised for you. It will come soon.


**************(MIAMI BASS ENSUES AND WILL OWN ON THE APERSON)******************