jTWG XVII Postgame

[Torlock]

LightKnight924-10-Human
xObserveRx-6-Psychic
whiteflame-12-Human-Lynch'd Day 2
iggymatrixcounter-11-Human-Wolf'd Night 1
Neonatrias-7-Human
Pumble-9-Human
mattc16-5-Guardian
rsr2-2-Wolf-Lynch'd Day 3
gonzo4life44-16-Human-Wolf'd Night 3
chickendude-15-Human
Necamus-4-Seer
Tasuke-14-Human-Wolf'd Night 4
B3NJ1-13-Human(Replaced by FishFishRevolution)-Guarded Night 2
Chromer-1-Wolf-Lynch'd Day 1
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR-3-Wolf-Lynch'd Day 5
dawg4321-8-Human

Humans Win! Discuss

[Lightknight924]

Hey.....cocktails.

Seriously though as my first game I think this was alright. It made me think(although I didn't accomplish much). I think I would have been lynched the next day anyhow. So, Good Game.

[chickendude]

domination nation

good game guys

[Necamus]

I would like to discuss what the random numbers are for...?

[FishFishRevolution]

kicked some good ol american ass

[PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR]

Good game. We were screwed from the start with the lynching of Chromer. After Fish joined and started that alliance, it was just a matter of time before we were found out. I thought I had enought of you fooled to last alteast one more day, but alas, good seering won it for you guys.

[Torlock]

Those are the numbers I used to determine the roles. 1,2,3 were wolves. 4 was seer, 5 was guardian, and 6 was psychic. The rest were regular humans. I used www.random.org.

[Lightknight924]

Skikaw farisa Prikas lak manika ja umastica!

Skiing Farrets Pride last moment ja umastica are made up



In other words....The humans pwned.

[Necamus]

3ngl!$h Plzz

[FishFishRevolution]

So I knew Chromer was a wolf because he was being so obvious about it.

I knew rsr was a wolf after chicken pointed somehting out to me about the kitb thing on day one (after we had chromer a wolf confirmed by sad saw).

chicken came up with the idea to seer psycho after the post mentioned on the last page of the thread.

Pretty standard, by the book game. Short, sweet, awesome. Thanks guys.

[Lightknight924]

I want to host next game. I have an awesome idea for a story and I didn't contribute much to this game anyways. So I really want to host the next game. Please.

[FishFishRevolution]

Oh, and I never told the seer who the guardian was, just in case he wasn't the real deal. Tasuke was the only one to know the guardian (I think). I let pumble in on the alliance today and Necamus let chicken in FOR NO REASON which was horrible but worked out in the end. Matt talked to me once, haha, never saw him again.

[Torlock]

I was very proud of the amount of activity in this game. There were only two phantoms, which were dawg and rsr, but they were both new so I kind of expected it.

[PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR]

Yea, the activity was astounding compared to all jTWGs that I've been in. Sorry that I wasn't as active as I wanted to be, or could have been. Mostly because of work, then partly playing the part of the wolf.

Also, I believe rsr's phantom was because of not being able to use the computer or something like that.

[whiteflame]

hah my logic was very ****ed up...but alot of things were going wrong outside of the game. Plus i've got a rotc drill comp coming up so i'm busy too not to mention my internet getting cut. Oh one last thing. I KNEW IT PSYCHO!!!!!!!

[Tasuke]

I like to think the winning of the game was in avengence of my death.
Because, it was! It was funny 'cuz Fish sent me a pm after he had me seered saying that if he was killed that i would take over the alliance. And then I died.

[Lightknight924]

Rsr had a few bowling tournaments to. So maybe he is out of state and can't get to a computer. Boy will he be surprised to find out games over.

[Lightknight924]

Hey Torlock! Who gets MVP? *If it weren't Fish*

[Tps222]

Not you!

Haha, I'm joking(but not really)

Just jealous that you survived. I knew all the roles while you were playing, and I was laughing at your sturboness. Relax and play less like early TWG Tps.

Good game humans.

@ The Future Wolf teams- jTWG would be a billion times better if you thought deeper into things. Stop always thinking on the 2nd level, make strategic kills and know when to attack, protect, and disassociate yourselves with one another. Have a plan on what you want to accomplish on each day, makes the game more interesting for everyone.

[gonzo4life44]

meh....

[Pumble]

cool i lived rofl pwned

I didn't know chicken was helping as much as he was, but then again i actually suggested to fish to make it seem like most of the good ideas were coming from him since he was safe from the wolves. I probably should have made an effort to talk to some other people on AIM outside the chat too, since the only people i actually discussed anything with fairly frequently were fish and chicken. Good job on the chromer/rsr link on the first day though, i would never have noticed that.

So all in all, it was a fun first game.

also what the hell was with that fish wolf attempt on day 2

[iggymatrixcounter]

Where the wolves screwed up:
1)chromer playing a textbook wolf.
2)wolfing fish (that may have been the biggest)

Where the humans won:
1)seer and guardian (and psychic indirectly) going to fish
2)seering psycho (bc he was doing a fairly good job of hiding)
3)stumbling upon rsr and chromer link

Where the humans could have done better:
1)fish posted who was who when the game was in the air, from this (even tho I had the roles to look at) I was able to find out who a blue was.

What the wolves did good:
1)wolfing me night 1 (since i was seered I would have been head of an alliance)
2)psycho saying under radar
3)rsr's phantom, i think, put him under the radar for a day which was pretty good.
4)going after the big hitters (myself, fish, tasuke, gonzo) it was only luck that one got a guard.


Pretty much when the guard happened is when the humans won in my opinion.


And I just want to ask matt who you picked to guard night 1?

[xObserveRx]

I didn't think it'd end so soon... I was actually quite nervous about coming out as psychic...

Meh, maybe i'm too paranoid, but I can't blame anyone for really keeping me out of the alliance. I was very very hard on fish (whether he knows that or not, i don't know) but I'm glad I made the choice to come out.

I'll admit, I made some pretty big mistakes in this game, and looked rather wolfish because of them. I was still kinda rusty on the rules and could've been tricked and or stumped early on... (I didn't know the seer only saw human or wolf, didn't know blues.) I figured I'd try to get the real seer to seer me, and tell me I was psychic, to form a good alliance. Meh, I guess it all worked out for the best. I'm glad I was able to help (via sadsaw and well... the obvious unveiling of my role.)

I had lots of fun, and look forward to playing another game.

[iggymatrixcounter]

Yea you were the reason that people thought I was the psychic. (Or at least you fooled fish.)

But your alt. acct. was a good idea too even though you put yourself in danger of being lynched and/or wolfed without anyone knowing who you were.

[xObserveRx]

Yeah, I was actually really worried about that on day 2. There was a ton of signs that could've pointed to me, and really, if it wasn't for fish, I'd have been gone for sure. I was planning to reveal my role then, as a last minute resort if need be... Thankfully I didn't have to.

It was a rather newb move, but seeing as this was only my second game... I think I did okay.

[Chromer]

You know, what I really had a problem with was the inclusion of Fish. Don't get me wrong, he's a vet and did his part, but obviously no one else except maybe Chicken and others had thier own opinions while everyone else followed Fish like they were his little fan club.

Point is: Stop fsckin following other just because you're not intelligent to make a rational decision yourself. In plain, stop being fags and think for yourselves.

[FishFishRevolution]

Observer, you have to understand that I had the mindset that the psychic was dead until sadsaw showed up. This forced chicken and I to try and make conclusions based on two different situations: whether or not chromer was a wolf. When you came out as the psychic, it wasn't the biggest surprise in the world (I thought it was Tasuke or you). The other thing is, I thought at first making a big deal out of not lynching tasuke was dumb because it would get him wolfed (even though I tried to make it look like he hadn't been seered), but then i realized that it would be a huge advantage because it would keep the wolves away from the blues.

Oh and Tasuke, I did win the game for you. <3

[Tasselfoot]

Wait... the psychic used an alt account to give info to the humans, when there was a human alliance already with the guarding of fish? That just seems so uber paranoid its not even funny.

BUT... the use of an alt account to spread blue information is an idea that I've had for games, but haven't been able to put into use. Because it has seemed that a) alt accounts haven't been used in TWG in a while... and b) when they were used, they were used for things that were generally counterproductive.

[FishFishRevolution]

Yeah, well he really didn't trust me (even though I still can't see any reason you wouldn't after I said the seer and guardian had come out to me, and then no blues publically or privated disagreed with that state ment).

[PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR]

Wait wait wait, hold the phones. Observer didn't come to fish until later?!?!?
Great, and we had an ace up our sleves the whole time. I had thought of sending rsr out as the psychic to fish rite after the guard telling that chromer was a wolf. We might have been able to do something with that

[xObserveRx]

yup, you guys nailed it.

Day 2 for me was uber filled with conspiracy theories and stupid situations that I apparently thought I had been overlooking. I confessed a few of these to a couple players and well... they didn't disagree.

However, I don't even know if anyone has really even played THAT risky a game (scenario I thought Fish was playing in my mind.) So yeah, it was totally just paranoia. Now that I think about it... being that paranoid seems rather counterproductive... =/

Edit: Yeah Psycho, that may have royally ****ed me.

[mattc16]

iggy, i guarded neonatrias night 1. i totally forgot you were playing, and when you got wolfed, i said **** so loud.

[vashthestampede0987]

XD Fish won and everyone else lost.

[Tasselfoot]

If Fish had been a wolf... well, its been done before in TWG.

TPS attacked himself and was guarded, although Afro foolishly told TPS before hand that he would be guarded... so there was no risk there.

The risky move was all the way back in either TWG 10 or 13... when Alain attacked himself Night 2 WITHOUT guarentee of being guarded. He was fairly sure Panda was the guardian, and tried to nudge her into guarding him. He thought he had succeeded, but Panda realized he was pushing to be guarded, so she guarded someone else and Alain wolfed himself.

Another risky move was in TWG22, where Alain got himself into ALOT of trouble night 2, so on day 2, I came right out and attacked the hell out of him and single-handedly got him lynched... which got me in with the human alliance and blues. Alain was pissed to high hell, but had the game progressed, I would have certainly won because of the move.

[dawg4321]

good game guys. Sry for being inactive. I guess i really don't have much of an excuse but i'll be more active in the next jtwg. Good game to all of u.

HUMANS DOMINATE!!

[whiteflame]

Blah tass I remeber those.

[chickendude]

but it wasn't even a possibility in this one (Fish being wolf)

Fish OPENLY asked to be seered (and he was) and there are no master wolves

he said that all the roles came to him and NOBODY contradicted at all. It's not like all the blues were dead. It just seems... that there was no way he could be wolf.

Plus, I knew who the seer was >_>;;

[rsr2]

GG everyone..... Sorry i was inactive. Some people know why.

[rsr2]

Rsr had a few bowling tournaments to. So maybe he is out of state and can't get to a computer. Boy will he be surprised to find out games over.
The tourny is next week so wish me luck :)