Tournaments and leagues

[nestlekwik]

Synthlight and I have briefly been discussing tournaments and leagues. I was wondering what the best day of the week would be to hold a tournament and also, how many people would actually be interested in a tournament.
Secondly, how many people would participate in a month-long league? We can take the top 10 scores of every song and award points to players every week and at the end of the month the top 10 players are announced. Just to experiment with the league, I'm thinking I'll try to handle everything with it and not charge anything - yes, a free one-month league. I'd have to figure out prizes for it yet, but, yeah, anyone interested?
Post comments, questions and ideas here please; thank you.

[MEGAginge]

i wudnt b interested purely because i dont have the time any more, i get on FFR like 10 secs a week!

[dAnceguy117]

the league idea sounds good

[Omicron]

U know im in!!!!
Please dont make it this week coz i got exams

Maybe on a saturday or something, sat or sunday

What time period will it be in coz im in the uk and i know there are tonnes of american players

Also how would u stop cheats?

[Chakan2]

I'd rather go on a week night for like an hour or something. Post a new song for an hour, then take the top 10 after the end of that hour. Weekend are bad due to me either drinking or recovering from drinking. :P

[nestlekwik]

More than likely, Remix #2 will be up before we launch any sort of leagues or tournaments. I'm lead to believe Synth and bprc will implement cheat safeguards into the new scoring system, and I've given Synth some tourney safeguard ideas, so we will make an attempt to cut out cheating entirely during the tournaments.
In league competition, players will have the entire week to play and obtain as many top 10 scores among the songs as they can, so time wouldn't be an issue in the leagues. For tournaments, Synthlight will probably be the ringleader for those. I've mentioned a few ideas to him, but we'll have to wait to see what he decides on when and how the tournament is run. Synth is aware that people play from all over the world, so I'm sure he'll plan an appropriate time for competitions.

[Chakan2]

So are we going to allow duplicate high scores in the tourneys? Say so and so gets spot 1,2 and 4 on a song, will he get the points associated with each slot or only the highest?

[dAnceguy117]

So are we going to allow duplicate high scores in the tourneys? Say so and so gets spot 1,2 and 4 on a song, will he get the points associated with each slot or only the highest? same for the league

[nestlekwik]

We've talked about this in detail in a thread created about a month ago. As far as I know, Synth has shown an interest in making the high scores tables so that only a player's highest score can be shown on the top 50; no duplicates. There are also a few more safeguard beyond that to try to eliminate duplicate scoring, especially in tournaments. Synth and I had an entire AIM conversation over tournaments so we're trying to get this covered :D

[Chakan2]

Cool beans.

[dAnceguy117]

if u get a hi score and it gets wiped out of the top 50 can u get back in?

[nestlekwik]

By wiped out do you mean, a score topped by other players?
If so, I'm sure Synth would allow a person to climb back on to the top 50.

[Chakan2]

I would assume that it would only track your highest score, not the first one posted.

[nestlekwik]

I would assume that it would only track your highest score, not the first one posted.
That seems like the plan anyways.

[dAnceguy117]

ok thx

[s£xySt£ph]

i think thats a great idea :D ! id b defo intrested! but do u only have four songs 2 choose from coz i do, as u can prob tell im new here :cry:

[nestlekwik]

I'm sure that the tournaments and leagues won't be planned until Remix #2 is completed. The new version will better suit tournaments and leagues. For tournaments, the songs done by competitors will be chosen by the tournament organizer and in the leagues all songs will be scored. If you only have four songs to choose from, you are probably playing the downloadable version. Competitions will take place online and should feature a lot more songs.

[CaptainZero]

Unfortunately, I missed the vote. I like the current miss system. I see nothing wrong with leaving FFR more challenging. People seem to be doing well enough without using a weak DDR miss system.

The only potential problem that I see with the current miss system, which might be able to be tweaked, is that if you hit a wrong key you get double penalized (1 for hitting the wrong key + 1 for missing the right key). Maybe it would be worked out so that it is only counted as 1 miss to hit a wrong key at the same moment the step passes through the zone.

I STRONGLY feel that you should get penalized for hitting wrong keys. Without that penalty, it wouldn't be FFR... it would be a giant "lets mash our keyboard to the beat" ghey-fest.

[NessTormented]

I would be in if i didnt suck. Mayube we should have a 'n00bs' tournament for people that can barely beat 6 foot step difiiculty...

Well, on the other hannd, i CAN beat final fantasy battlE!!! but not very well... :cry: :oops:

[nestlekwik]

>_< The sandbagging that would take place in a "light division" would be something I, personally, wouldn't want to deal with.

[dancer]

what would the diffulicty of the songs be or will you have a newbi tournament an vetern tournament and a wow how do those fingures move so fast tournament

[marshmallowstomper]

I think tourneys would be a kick-butt idea. Of course, I would have to be in the Super-Mega-Ultra n00b league. :D

Saturdays and Sundays would probably be the best days to actaully hold the tournaments, but having one that lasts a whole month would be better.

As for the song selection, maybe you should just have all the songs playable, then when the tournament ends, take all the highest scores from the different leagues and give them places(first place, second place, etc. etc.). This is coming out of a person who has yet to full combo Stay With Me, so basically I'm just saying that I want the Mario song available too. ;)

[nestlekwik]

That's the plan for leagues as of right now. I'm sure we'll know more about the competitions after the release of Remix.

[Seiryu]

I'd be interested in joining the tournament/league, whenever its up,ive been playing ffr for about 2 weeks now and im really interested. Sign me up!

[Freak83]

Tournament, I'm in!

[Spazzbite]

Count me in! I'm starting to get really good at this game!

[Nicktals]

the league sounds awesome. and saturday or sunday nights work best. hopefully it can start soon. i can't wait!

[muzzyterry]

yea, I agree as well, I think competetion against other people would be much more fun than sitting in front of a box and playing by myself. :wink:

[nestlekwik]

Yes. And as soon as Remix is released we can actually kick this stuff off :D

[QreepyBORIS]

Saturdays and Fridays would own.

Except I suck.

I suck the serious.

Oh well, count me in!

[CMCAdvanced]

I would totally destroy all comers in a tournament.

Maybe.

[dave]

u would







U could kill me at ffr but at DDR no my friend I will own u I am a god but I if u thinkl that u are beater then then don't hold it aganst me :wink:

[Danny5243]

i think both ideas are very cool im very into ffr and many of my friends.

[Vellhart]

cool a tourney...sure im in for that!!

[Hyrogashi]

Until you can have speed mod's im not in tournaments, i have AAA'd Chrono Trigger on DWI 1.5x speed, im not a 5th mix player, i started getting good in max, im used to speed mods, if i dont have them, im a goner.

[dave]

I would rule at a DDR :wink:

[jtull89]

Yes, i am new. But I still want to do a tournament. I don't have time for a league during the school year, but a 1-month league would be great for summer vacation! :D

[Yanah_the_Master]

I'd pwn at the Dynamite Rave bug :)

I'd pwn at the Until the End song too

[Locke101]

there's this post and there was that poll. so is there going to be another tourny or what???

[nestlekwik]

Whenever Remix is released there will be both leagues and tournaments.

[QreepyBORIS]

:o :o :shock: :shock: :shock: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Oh man, that is pressure.....

I don't think that I would fare so well....

[87x]

umm... yea... well i guess i "pwn" at drop out death mix... so eemmmm :sticks out tongue at everyone:

[spector]

Tourney sounds like a good idea

[gsbbartmann]

The tournaments sound nice except for the fact that unless the cheating thing is for sure blocked it wont be fun. I have been playing for about 4 months ago and most people eventually get bored of play ffr because there just isnt much there but if there were tournaments and leagues everyone would be in that. Although this site might get crowded. On another note is there a way that the songs can preload in a way that they are nice and clean like the downloaded version? Im running 2 gig processer and online it is still laggy.

[Hyrogashi]

Dont make tournaments until R2

[87x]

i hope R#2 encorporates... a tournament style thing like the yahoo pool ones... (if yall have ever done that)

[nestlekwik]

Yeah...whenever R2 should get here. FFR will be in full effect once it finally gets off the ground.

[MEGAginge]

We've talked about this in detail in a thread created about a month ago. As far as I know, Synth has shown an interest in making the high scores tables so that only a player's highest score can be shown on the top 50; no duplicates. There are also a few more safeguard beyond that to try to eliminate duplicate scoring, especially in tournaments. Synth and I had an entire AIM conversation over tournaments so we're trying to get this covered :D

sorry im quoteing a very old post here: but i wanna make a comment.

if you beat ur existing high score, im assuming the original one dissapears to allow the new one entry, because if your first run sticks no matter what it is rather rediculous.

Id like a league to happen, as i wanna c if im even in the top 50 any more...

[BloodPhoenix]

I think tourneys and leagues would be koo, except for the fact that SOME people *coughArch0wlcough* are maniacally good at this, and the n00bs (not myself, but a few of my friends) would be left in the whirling dust. I strongly suggest separating it by ranges of average points per song or something, to give non-masters half a pork rind's chance.

[87x]

but then who do you get to seperate them???... like myself and maybe jewpin (i dont know how good he plays) we both dont rival arch but... we could destroy the n00bs... so do we just own the n00b division or stay at the bottom of the archolws and hyrogashi's and the omicrons (just to name a few)....

[Mejit]

I'm in for any leagues or tourneys

[Hikki_Fan]

I'm in for that! I may not be the strongest player here, but enable the USB Pad and I can kick some serious FF7 theme ASS!

[87x]

lol... i sont want to play you forreal.. youd whoop my ass...

[Hikki_Fan]

Well, I'm not nearly as good with my hands as I am with my feet. I can be really really good, but the only time I was on the high score list was the night when Synth released those six new songs. Soul Shift is fun ^_^

[dumbhotdog]

I like the idea of a league or tournament. Like 87x said, the yahoo pool leagues worked out really well, im not sure how you'd do it for ffr but it sounds like a good time.
This is my first post, because i pretty much just play ffr like a maniac and dont read. I dont get to be BaTman anymore though :(

[Satsui]

I'm in for a tournament, any time.
......is there any way to ensure nobody's flash hacking though?
because.. you can be sure that a tourney would bring
anyone with a slowdown program.. :P

[MUTiger88]

Sounds good, I'm in even though I won't ever win anything.

[r0xxer24]

Why not have a qualfying session to see who could "make the cut" like in NASCAR (Did I just compare FFR to NASCAR?!). Anyways, you could seperate the people accuality worth playing from the people who are just getting into the game. If anyone (n00bs) complains about not being able to compete, tell them to get better and then try out. I think it's a good idea at least.

Sorry about spelling errors.

[beatbox09]

I think the tourneys should be on Friday or Saturday.
I would definetly join a league.
I would participate in tournements. :wink:

[Nima]

im ready for anything

[Sabinx]

bring on a tourny, or a league. Either way would be cool

[win21]

I looked at ME&MY. However, it was not able to play. If it carries out, how can it play?

[sfgadvfreak]

i say you guys get a date set up soon and see who can make it. If not a lot of people make it, get another one going.

[QreepyBORIS]

Ah, pure logic. :)

[sfgadvfreak]

who me? ahh thanks. but you guys should really choose a date soon to see how it works

[QreepyBORIS]

You can Contact the Admins via AIM at Synthlight or Nskwk about setting a date. Skaskate2/Jewpinthe3rd (same person) is a moderator, you might be able to contact him, also.

[bballplaya]

id be interested because id like to see how i compare to other users

[tnyhwk900]

Hey: ive been on this site for a while, and i have one thing to say.







...You suck. :P

[notorious]

i want tournamentness. i suck. at tournaments. i suck at the real game in general. :(

[tnyhwk900]

so, you're "notorious"? heh heh...

That was horrible.

[notorious]

so, you're ajosdhfoushrpuawiuy900, heh heh...

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[lancer77]

I think there should be a few leages, each at a different skill level, so the junior and intermediate players won't get ground into the dust.

[notorious]

im actually, like, not that good, but i hav beaten a //////// level, so i dont know where i would be.

[MikeyFox]

id do it

[tnyhwk900]

OMGFEARKINGOLDTOPIC GJRIOGNJKRIHGRIHNLRHNLRH!!!!1!!!!11

[Teegarden]

Sign me up.

[DrunkCat]

Meh, why not. I'll join in too.

[tnyhwk900]

Does anyone get the point there IS NO CURRENT TOURNAMENT?!?!?!?!?!?!?1?!? omg, whats wrong with you people :P

[DrunkCat]

It is meant for future refrences :P.

[xXxCloudxXx]

sign me up for all and every tournament and league just e-mail me about 3 e-mails telling me about the tournaments!

[Mwerp]

I'll join for the heck of it
I have a feeling I'll lose horribly though :D

[QreepyBORIS]

Join!

[IAMTHEEVILBEAN]

potoato + nickel= join


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[Kagome]

yeah, umm... me too

[Alkaiser88]

I love the idea of a league, but if you do it, you should make it like.. special.. like

>FFRHOME___>FFRTHE GAME___>FFRLEAGUE___>FFRFORUM___>YOUGETHEPICTURE

Make it so the league has specific songs during each 1 month period.

Edit: OOooh, and maybe new songs created specifically for the league!!

And maybe teams?

[americo1]

Sounds like a good idea even though I would not be near the top 10... maybe just like the Top 1K.

[DanMan69]

I'm in

[matduke]

I'm in too

[aragorn675]

I Am definitely interested in a league/tournament....i think itd be great for ffr and fun as hell. This week is good for me if you decide to hold it this week anyways. Good idea...i love it!

[Teegarden]

I love the idea of a league, but if you do it, you should make it like.. special.. like

>FFRHOME___>FFRTHE GAME___>FFRLEAGUE___>FFRFORUM___>YOUGETHEPICTURE

Make it so the league has specific songs during each 1 month period.

Edit: OOooh, and maybe new songs created specifically for the league!!

And maybe teams?

Awesome idea! If you do get leagues/tourneys started, you should also have different sections so less skilled players wouldn't be killed by the likes of ppl like Nima Volvok and Arch. And you should compete for creds too.

Maybe even have a Styles tourney. Who's the best using mouse? Or cross mode? Who can get most misses in a song w/out dying? Just fun things I thought of. :)

Hope you all get it started. This sounds really good.

[zajac]

im all for both ideas.... just adds to something that can be done for FFR and can make the community grow larger and more interactive and what not..... ya...id sign up for both and whatnot...

[XsmurfX]

mee too.. i'd be fun and a way of ddisscussing with people at your own skill level.. so all the newbs and people who seam anoying to ffr whores don't piss them off.. lol.l.

[Cenright]

We could also rate the players that way. There could be a 1 - 15000 ranking system and that way we all have a position.

[thebox]

id defintly play in a league with people of my skill

[Blackdog89]

Tounaments would be a really good idea, but league would be kind of hard to manage

[Blackdog89]

Also in a tounament there could be prizes of ffr credits , like 500 for 1st, 300 for second ect. , up to the top ten winners.

[xxKRnxx]

Hey nestle, how about making some different sections, like age groups, or skill groups.. somethin like that, so that all of us have a fair shot at 1st.

[chuckman]

id defintly play in a league with people of my skill

[chuckman]

yeah that would be cool