live everyday as it were your last?

[falconsfan14]

I strongly dissagree with that. If you lived everyday as if it were your last you would freak. I say live everyday like youve got all the time in the world.

When you live everyday as if it were your last, it would suck. Everything would be in chaos, people would be doing everything they always wanted to do so fast that they wouldnt sit back and enjoy it.

If you lived everyday as if you had all the time in the world you could sit back and enjoy things more. It wouldnt be as strenuouse.
(off topic but a good point)
our society is crumbling, washing away in the fierce waters of the media. We are all controlled by it, they tell us how to dress and how we should look. They tell us how we should live our lives, they say we need a good education to get anywhere in life. not neccisaraly. You can still get a highschool diploma and live a great life. Sure its great to get a good education, you can go be some network executive or you can be stuck in a cubical -_-. not very fun eh?

My message to you is that you live everyday as if you have all the time in the world, and dont let the media control you

how you live your life is your desicion, make the one that is best for you.

Discuss if you want.[/list]

[Anticrombie0909]

What the hell does the media have to do with this?

[falconsfan14]

lolol did you see the off topic sign, no? read it next time.

id like intelligent comments please not dumb ones like that.

[CypherToorima]

Only the weak-willed, and frail-minded let themselves be controled by the media.

I think you should live life how you want to. If you feel like always being tense, then so be it. But if everyone lived their life as if they had all the time in the world, there would be no work done. And you read way to far into "live life as if it was your last." All it's saying is enjoy life, because you're not going to live forever.

[falconsfan14]

your right i did read way too much into that, and i guess your right if you lived like you had all the time in the world no work would get done. life has just been really intense for me lately, but anyways if you think about how much time you really have on this earth i mean really think about it. not just sitting for five min. throwing around ideas youl see where im comin from.

[MythamX]

Or, you know... die. It's all the same for you, falcon.

[falconsfan14]

hey i said intelligent commments only man. i dont want some f'ed up ct discussion about me again.

[MalReynolds]

Live for no one but yourself. Live for everyone. Live for those that cannot live, live for friends that don't have time to, but for the love of God, don't live like you have all the time you want. Life is meant to be lived. You only get one chance at this, so have as much fun as you can, because you don't know what's going to happen after you die. Don't piss it away doing nothing, and don't piss it away doing everything.

Just live.

Mal

[MythamX]

Beautiful. That's the way it's done.

[falconsfan14]

Dude mal that is just what i wanted man, awsome post thats exactly how i feel i just couldnt put it in to words.

[Omeganitros]

Tell me, do you think that's why some people join the military? To live?

[falconsfan14]

well in the military you live a very exciting life, with the guns and stuff and its good for life outsiude the military, you know?

[hEaLiNgViSiOnAnGeLicMiX]

When you live everyday as if it were your last, it would suck. Everything would be in chaos, people would be doing everything they always wanted to do so fast that they wouldnt sit back and enjoy it.

If you lived everyday as if you had all the time in the world you could sit back and enjoy things more. It wouldnt be as strenuouse.

Not necessarily. Let's take someone with alot of hate on their mind. Someone who hates a good bunch of people from their family/school/community/etc... If they were to think one day that they should live it as if it was their last, one message might go through their mind. "Do I want to die with all this hate/all these people hating me, or die without these grudges and hopefully have them forgive me?" If I were put into that place, I'd rather die without the hate and immediately run off to apologize to each and every single person I've ever hated/started a rumor about/thought badly of.

Also,"Live every day as if it were your last" is a total generalization. It's one of those phrases that were SUPPOSED to mean live life happily, cheerfully, etc... A generalization means it is based on the MAJORITY. Therefor, the minority are automatically considered EXCEPTIONS. For example, a phrase often used telling you not to copy others is "So if ____ jumped off a bridge, you would too?" Same deal. Sometimes it's a good thing to follow suit. If everyone in your class did their homework, you wouldn't NOT (olol double negative) do your homework just to avoid doing the same as others now would you?

[psychic25]

Mal, that was sweet.

Yeah, like falconsfan said, some people might enjoy that kind of stuff... Might, because I've heard too many bad things about war to consider glorifying it. Reserve and stuff is (I guess) a different story, and again, I guess it would help with discipline and stuff in civilian life.

How interesting. We just had to write an essay on a poem in class today on something similar to this subject. The poem was called "The Lesson of the Moth". The theme was about whether or not it is worth it to view true beauty for a single second before perishing; the alternative to that was to live a long life, but have it be boring. I would say that I agree with the moth, who burns himself up for a single glance at the fire. A long life in the doldrums just wouldn't cut it for me.

[falconsfan14]

do you know if that poem is on the internet somewhere? lol dumb question of course it is but i would love to read it.

[The_Q]

Falcon, I was praying you would come to the real reason as I read your post. I remembered that it's too obvious for you and simply gave up after a while. I was rather disappointed. I was even more disappointed in Sam, though. C'mon, what did I tell you about being respectful to people?

Anyway, the real reason for not living like everyday were you last is because it simply costs too much. Admit it, living like that would cost a lot for you, physically, mentally and financially. I guess what I'm trying to say is that anyone who has any sense of economics would never live like that. People like having smooth lives, not too much good, not too much bad. When you suggest that you have excessively good times you imply that excessively bad times will follow. No, who's to say "why not have the good times and then suck it up all at once through the bad? A huge dose of poverty followed by (or following) a huge period of wealth can't be that bad.

Ask someone from the Great Depression whether they liked that idea. It's that kind of mentality that is wrong with our world. The idealistic, hollow bull**** that is flung out at us in English class.

Q

[alainbryden]

falconsfan you are so cliché, it's as though you don't have thoughts of your own,

Mal, you did a great job of summarizing a good philosophy in a very aesthetic way.

Since it's pretty much been covered how people think they should live thier lives, how about coming to face with the reality of how they live their lives.

People spend the first 12 years of their lives the way it should be spend, then they spend three quarters of their lives planning ahead, and finally spend the last bit wondering why they aren't happy like they planned for. This is merely a general observation.

[TheTypist]

Mal, that is why I plan to move out of the States after I finish my education.

In America, we go around with our "anything goes, just live" philosophies, then go around trying to "have as much fun as we can" regardless of the lives of others.

So let me tell you: You don't necessarily not have to know where you are going after you die, and for the love of God, don't live an empty life of living for the next moment, for the next temporary distraction from reality. Don't become lost in the sea of those who can't quiet their minds for five minutes because they're too afraid to stop and think about the things really worth living for.

[alainbryden]

Well that's where the religious dissagree with the others because you feel like you should live your life to get into heaven and we know (for ourselves) that this is not a concern, for obvious reasons in our difference in beliefs. It would be wrong to now bring your religion into this discussion to say how live should be lived, or we will no longer be arguing principles of living, and will be arguing beliefs. Instead of telling us what you'be been preached, discuss your own ideas of what is valuable about life.

[MalReynolds]

I'm not afraid of some deity that threatens hell fire and beinged damned to eternal suffering. I'm free of that, and even if God does exist, I'm going to be with some fun people in Hell. JFK, Al Capone, a close friend that killed himself two years ago, Ghandi.

You can stifle your life all you want. I feel for you, but at least you won't be in America any more to try to make people live in accordance with your beliefs.

Beezlebub has a devil set aside for me =D

Mal

[falconsfan14]

read this poem this is the one phycic was talking about in another topic, notice what it says at the end
the lesson of the moth
By Don Marquis, in "archy and mehitabel," 1927


i was talking to a moth
the other evening
he was trying to break into
an electric light bulb
and fry himself on the wires

why do you fellows
pull this stunt i asked him
because it is the conventional
thing for moths or why
if that had been an uncovered
candle instead of an electric
light bulb you would
now be a small unsightly cinder
have you no sense

plenty of it he answered
but at times we get tired
of using it
we get bored with the routine
and crave beauty
and excitement
fire is beautiful
and we know that if we get
too close it will kill us
but what does that matter
it is better to be happy
for a moment
and be burned up with beauty
than to live a long time
and be bored all the while
so we wad all our life up
into one little roll
and then we shoot the roll
that is what life is for
it is better to be a part of beauty
for one instant and then cease to
exist than to exist forever
and never be a part of beauty
our attitude toward life
is come easy go easy
we are like human beings
used to be before they became
too civilized to enjoy themselves

and before i could argue him
out of his philosophy
he went and immolated himself
on a patent cigar lighter
i do not agree with him
myself i would rather have
half the happiness and twice
the longevity

but at the same time i wish
there was something i wanted
as badly as he wanted to fry himself

archy

"we were like humans used to be before they became too civilized to enjoy themselves"
its about life, its a great poem,good message
makes you think.

[alainbryden]

God dammit stop quoting people and think for yourself.

[falconsfan14]

i didnt quote any one i copy=pasted it, i think the poem had something to do with this topic so i posted it in here.

[TheTypist]

Well that's where the religious dissagree with the others because you feel like you should live your life to get into heaven and we know (for ourselves) that this is not a concern, for obvious reasons in our difference in beliefs. It would be wrong to now bring your religion into this discussion to say how live should be lived, or we will no longer be arguing principles of living, and will be arguing beliefs. Instead of telling us what you'be been preached, discuss your own ideas of what is valuable about life.

I like to think of it as the others disagreeing with the religious but...

So you don't want me discussing my beliefs, and you're assuming that I've just been fed some kind of religion and have just taken it at face value. AND, you somehow think that I'm shallow enough not to let my faith affect my actual values. Wow. I find it funny how you don't want me expressing my values and beliefs, yet you're now bossing me around and telling me what's "wrong."

But it's all right. I was in the mood for a good laugh. You know, we're all expressing our opinions and beliefs here, so if an opinion or two has do deal with religion I suggest you don't viciously attack it.[/i]

[alainbryden]

Look, about 50% of posts in CT turn in to Athiest vs Christian battles. All I asked was that you not do this again. Thanks anyways.

[falconsfan14]

yes alain is right, usually all ct discussions turn into religious discussions, people post religious things and think thats critical thinking, well its not and its a lil annoying. ct=critical thinking that means you actually think about it not post what offends you religious wise think outside the box thats what critical thinking is about. if everyone thought outside the box do you know how interesting it would be in here? all you here about is religion, lets give that a rest.

[Moogy]

you can't even spell atheist alain

tisk tisk

[tsutter]

Number 2 was tricky.

[TheTypist]

Eeeww... I can't believe what happened while I was gone. The real critical thinkers have all been replaced with those who only spurt out "aesthetic philosophy," who dismiss all spiritual thinking and try to label it as useless religion, who are so caught up in trying to be politically correct that they forget what they learned in elementary english classes, and start demanding that others keep their mouths shut if it involves anything they would uncomfortable about.

It seems that all you really hear about is trying to avoid "religion." If I mention my Christian faith, why don't you try tolerating it like you would be so careful to do with anything else? You don't have to attack it unless you really want to.

And it seems, like you really want to.

[falconsfan14]

well typist people attack other people on religion in here because like i said before thats all you hear about and these threads usually turn into religious discussions. I personally find it annoying and childish. People wouldnt attack other people on their religion as much if it wasnt mentioned so much. once again stop thinking inside the box, really think about it and post, people will care what you have to say. so we can all stop the reliousness on here and talk about something else.

[TheTypist]

Well falcon, I refuse to bow down to the gods of secularism like you do, so I'm sorry if you can't respect our differences. Once again, spiritual thinking is not "thinking inside the box," and if someone believes that, it's a spectacular demonstration of how that person thinks. Remember, secularism has gods too, so if you want me to stop talking about mine, I guess you should stop talking about yours. But then, not much would be posted at all.

So there's no reason to abolish religion. Or proper punctuation or capitalization. (HINT, HINT)

[Meteor858]

Falconsfan, its a nice poem in all, but thing bout it, (note: i am atheist, and i have depression) It kinda made me think of suicide when i read it. THINK BOUT IT. now look at this section of it,
we get bored with the routine
and crave beauty
and excitement
fire is beautiful
and we know that if we get
too close it will kill us
but what does that matter
it is better to be happy
for a moment
and be burned up with beauty
than to live a long time
and be bored all the while
so we wad all our life up
into one little roll
and then we shoot the roll
that is what life is for
it is better to be a part of beauty
for one instant and then cease to
exist than to exist forever
and never be a part of beauty

And I kinda think of it this way, From what i know of life it sux pretty bad and isnt the moth talking of the beauty of suicide or somethin? That confuses me... lol

-Meteor

[suicidalmuskrat]

asdf
QFE.

"Remember, secularism has gods too"--but atheism doesn't, which is where most non relgious people place themselves. Most of this topic made me laugh, and the poem was mediocre, but yeah, the moth does commit suicide, so in that way it talks about suicide...but remember, poems are meant to be interpreted (sic?), so for one it could mean to live life fully, and daringly, and to another it could mean that suicide is beautiful, or something like that...i'm not the one to say

[hatakikakashi]

I think the moth in that poem was viewing it's suicide as an unfortunate price to pay for witnessing or bieng part of true beauty, but one that it was willing to pay.

As for living life like it's your last day. If you take it literaly I think it's a little extreme, but maybe don't take life for granted is a better way to say it. You can't know exactly how long you have left so try and live with little regret. Enjoy it while it lasts and make the most out of it. You've all heard the saying "If live gives you lemons make lemonaid." I say if life hands me lemons I'll sell the them and buy something that I really want. You know, just do what you can with what you've been given and sample as many things as you can. Personally I think that life is some sort of test that were all being graded on, as if someone is evaluating us on our ability to succeed based on what kinds of obstacles we are able (or unable) to overcome. Either that or it's totally pointless and it just happened for no reason, if that's the case then just do whatever hell you feel like. I still can't figure out which.

Or if you take door number three I'm an idiot who's so full of **** it's flying out of my ears and I have no idea what I'm talking about.

[HamHack]

if i lived every day of my life as if it were my last i would be in jail right now, possibly dead.

[Meteor858]

lol same

[hEaLiNgViSiOnAnGeLicMiX]

hmmmmm


HamHack's Post - "Posted: Apr 09, 2005 - 01:13 AM"

Meteor858's Post - "Apr 17, 2005 - 03:43 PM"


EDIT:whoops...pasted the wrong date

[falconsfan14]

Why did you bump this topic it has been over for like 3 weeks=\

[hEaLiNgViSiOnAnGeLicMiX]

read the edit

[Meteor858]

cuz i dont like it when good threads die

i think a good discussion should be kept up

[msbrunnettemickey]

One comment..

"God does not play dice with the universe"

[hatakikakashi]

What does that have to do with bumping a dead topic?

[hEaLiNgViSiOnAnGeLicMiX]

i think a good discussion should be kept up

"Lol same" is not called keeping up a 'good discussion'

[Meteor858]

who asked you anywayz?

lol

[mica3gold]

8) Just live everyday in peace. True, living everday as your last would result in restlessness and chaos. Many people couldn't handle that. Just living in peace and not letting insignificant matters bog you down would be enough.

[NevermoreX]

I strongly dissagree with that. If you lived everyday as if it were your last you would freak. I say live everyday like youve got all the time in the world.

When you live everyday as if it were your last, it would suck. Everything would be in chaos, people would be doing everything they always wanted to do so fast that they wouldnt sit back and enjoy it.

If you lived everyday as if you had all the time in the world you could sit back and enjoy things more. It wouldnt be as strenuouse.
(off topic but a good point)
our society is crumbling, washing away in the fierce waters of the media. We are all controlled by it, they tell us how to dress and how we should look. They tell us how we should live our lives, they say we need a good education to get anywhere in life. not neccisaraly. You can still get a highschool diploma and live a great life. Sure its great to get a good education, you can go be some network executive or you can be stuck in a cubical -_-. not very fun eh?

My message to you is that you live everyday as if you have all the time in the world, and dont let the media control you

how you live your life is your desicion, make the one that is best for you.

Discuss if you want.[/list]

I Understand what your saying, but I see things a little diffrently. What if when the day comes and you realize that you haven't fulfilled your life dreams and goals? I'm not saying to dump your bank accounts and rape your credit cards everyday, but tomarrow is never guaranteed.

[HeroOfShadows]

I take it as this.

I'm having a great day, and I see an opportunity to doing something that could be either very good, or very bad, depending on the outcome. If I see slim chance of success, I think "Hey, this could be my one and only chance to do this." So I do it, and I'd probably fail, but I'd be satisfied that I took the risk rather than regretting something that could have possibly been good for me.

Would you rather regret not doing something or regret doing something? You can always get over a mistake you made in the past, but you can never re-live your life and make those decisions you wish you did.

Put down the controller, get off the couch, and make a difference. [/verb advertising]

[CaRmZ]

omg how can u strongly disagree with that.....no one will ever know when they are gonna die.....so you might as well enjoy it......case closed

[fusi0n]

Deep Carmz. Deep.

[gardyloo]

I think if everyone lived each day as their last everyone would have aids and die. Oops, looks like it IS your last day!

[HamHack]

if i lived every day as if it were my last i'd either be dead or in jail right now

[babayaga39]

Live everyday with a hope and the work needed to do what you want to do and never regret any step you take.

[Sera13]

I dont think anyone needs to live thier life like they are going to die tomarrow, however i do think people need to live their lives as happy as possible. Make choices and make risks, your gonna win some loose some but youll always grow from any of your experiences. Sometimes being a little crazy and stepping outside the box maybe nessisary, and if you get in a little trouble for it, just except it and go on. However i strongly believe if most lived everyday as if it were their last they woudl be in prision, dead, or in a mental insistute, we dont need that now do we?

[Chocoborider29]

Every day IS my last day. I consider the time to be short for me to prove many things, and something halts every day of my life. Little by little we die, gradually becoming nothing but a corpse in a sack or a box. But I don't care. I just want my death to be invisible. I don't want a soul to know.

[Fighterforce32]

If everyone did what you said on page one Mal, the world would be a better place.

[cmb]

If everyone lived like it were there last day there would be total chaos.