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zildjian133
January 25th, 2005, 03:01 PM
Is dragon ball z/gt a cartoon or anime? Yeah there's a bunch of other cartoons/animes I'd wonder if you people think they're cartoons or anime...

dragon_of_black_flames
January 25th, 2005, 03:14 PM
the dragon ball series' are anime

Corlath
January 25th, 2005, 06:45 PM
ya... anything that origionated from Japan and has been dubbed over.. badly in the case of the DB series... are anime.... Lupin the III is anime.. Family Guy is not anime..... see the difference?

jewpinthethird
January 25th, 2005, 07:26 PM
Ugh...

Its weird. Anime is similar to a rectangle (the shape). A rectangle can also be a classified as a square. Like how and Anime can be classified as a cartoon...but not the other way around.

So, there isnt really a point to asking if it is an anime or a cartoon since it can be either.

CypherToorima
January 25th, 2005, 07:33 PM
You got that backwards (I think) A square can be called a rectangle, but a rectangle can't be classified as a square.

Afrobean
January 25th, 2005, 07:56 PM
Guys, anime doesn't specifically mean a Japanese cartoon. Anime, unless I'm mistaken, comes from a combination of East and West. "Anim" comes from Latin, I believe, and it means motion. "E" comes from Japanese, and it means picture. Because of this, anime doesn't mean "japanese cartoon," it is merely the japanese word for cartoon.

Therefore, if what I just said is correct, Family Guy is most definitely an anime.

EDIT: Cypher, I believe you're correct.

EDIT NUMBA 2:
anime
c.1985, Japanese for "animation," a term that seems to have arisen in the 1970s, apparently based on the Eng. word. Manga (q.v.) is Jap. for "comic book, graphic novel," but anime largely are based on manga and until 1970s, anime were known as manga eiga or "TV manga." The two terms are somewhat confused in Eng.
That seems to at least somewhat support what I said. Also, I learned in Japanese class that "eiga" meant movie. Is this right, or would a better term be something like motion picture?

MetroidPrime
January 25th, 2005, 08:02 PM
But since anime is a japanese word wouldnt it be considered japanese?? right..the japanese probably call family guy a cartoon.

Afrobean
January 25th, 2005, 08:06 PM
Actually, what I was getting at was that the japanese would refer to Family Guy as anime. And since anime is a Japanese word, that means that if the Japanese say it means "any cartoon" I don't think we should be like "no, it means Japanese cartoons."

Squeek
January 25th, 2005, 08:35 PM
The point is that "Anime" has become a term that Americans use to describe cartoon shows from Asia. Nobody would refer to Family Guy or the Simpsons as anime. We have a word for it here and we'll use it to differentiate the two.

~Squeek

CypherToorima
January 25th, 2005, 08:38 PM
It's like comparing red apples and green apples. Both are apples, they just come from somewhere else than each other.

jewpinthethird
January 25th, 2005, 10:46 PM
That seems to at least somewhat support what I said. Also, I learned in Japanese class that "eiga" meant movie. Is this right, or would a better term be something like motion picture?

Yes, Eiga is the correct term for movie (or motion picture if you live int the 1930s).

And I always get the "sqaure rectangle" comparison mixed up. Really, I dont care, as long as my point came across.

SotN
January 26th, 2005, 11:43 PM
Conventionally, Anime refers to any series animated in the japanese style (notorious for big eyes, funny hair, exaggerated emotions). It is referred to as Anime in japanese because it comes from the english "animation", through common use by the hardcore fans it became the standard word to refer to animated works in Japanese.

We English speakers borrow the word (taking it back, gogo language) to differentiate between western works and eastern works, so calling Family Guy anime is incorrect on all counts.

What does this mean? An Candadian art studio can produce an anime-inspired work, but it wont be called anime (in English). A korean studio can produce the same thing, but it will be referred to as anime due to not being western.

Corlath
February 5th, 2005, 03:44 PM
Exactly sotN.... It's basically east versus west... we classify their cartoons in a different catagory than we classify our own. They just simply have "Cartoons" seeing as they are less "racist" (wrong term, but it gets my point across) towards our cartoons.

chardish
February 5th, 2005, 08:39 PM
Anime is the French word for Cartoon. It is not Japanese. That is why there is an accent over the e (not shown here.)

Tsuteto
February 6th, 2005, 01:18 AM
Animé. That's how you type it truly. Nonetheless though, animé is just something to describe a specific genre of cartoons. Even then, using the word is still pretty large. I mean, you can break it down to realistic, cartoonish, chibi, etc etc etc. However, it was mostly put here:

What does this mean? An Candadian art studio can produce an anime-inspired work, but it wont be called anime (in English). A korean studio can produce the same thing, but it will be referred to as anime due to not being western.

God my head hurts too much for this...

GuidoHunter
February 6th, 2005, 01:18 AM
Alt+0233

But wait, French has those wacky backward accents. ::Pulls up character map:: Alt+0232

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

Halloween_town
February 6th, 2005, 04:16 AM
Anime is the French word for Cartoon. It is not Japanese. That is why there is an accent over the e (not shown here.)

- what r u french? my ass!
Animé means to come alive . "le petit chaperon rouge etait animé de joix"
or des dessins animé which means drawings coming alive/ cartoons

for the record - U my fellow idiot are well... an idiot!


- NO SOUP FOR YOU!

Squeek
February 6th, 2005, 08:55 AM
Anime was just slang for "animated (video, cartoon, movie, series, etc)". It has no connotative meaning whatsoever by itself.

~Squeek

vashthestampede0987
February 6th, 2005, 08:56 AM
Anime is the French word for Cartoon. It is not Japanese. That is why there is an accent over the e (not shown here.)

- what r u french? my ass!
Animé means to come alive . "le petit chaperon rouge etait animé de joix"
or des dessins animé which means drawings coming alive/ cartoons

for the record - U my fellow idiot are well... an idiot!


- NO SOUP FOR YOU!

Both of you are wrong although Chard's definition is much closer than Halloween town's. Anime in French means animate.


EDIT: Hallow this is what your sentence was

"the Little Red Riding Hood etait animated joix"

kylehaas
June 16th, 2006, 05:53 PM
Dragon Ball Z sux !!! It is NOT anime... Anime is drawn with high detail and definate style! DBZ is ugly and poorly done! it sux !!! I love anime, but DBZ is one of those shows that i cant stand! I admire anime for the extreme DETAIL which DBZ lacks in full. I say it again, it is not an anime, and is a crappy show anyways...

these are my opinions! plz dont take them personally!

Suzuru
June 16th, 2006, 06:09 PM
As for western cartoons and japanese Anime. I've watched plenty of both and there is big gap in style, technique, quality. Western made cartoon look as of they took a lot less effort to create, and in most cases it shows real well. Lately western cartoon took a plunge into the deeper hole and for the most part, I can't stand them now. Don't get me wrong, there is plenty of bad Anime but there is so much more of the good. In Japan, Animation is pretty lucrative industry, in part of that there is plenty of high paying voice actors and they are celebrities just because of being a seiyuu in Japan. Do you see same thing in U.S.? I don't, ever wonder why dubs are so horrible? ;p

Snapps
June 16th, 2006, 06:15 PM
old news we get it

Grandiagod
June 16th, 2006, 06:24 PM
Year bump lol.

anime_gurl816
June 16th, 2006, 06:31 PM
itz an anime....;P....cuz if itz in a manga series then that means itz probably an Anime....

kylehaas
June 16th, 2006, 06:32 PM
thank you for agreeing (is that how u spell it? ) with me. western drawn sucks. it IS a fact. true anime, with a good story, and lovable ( and love-to-hate-able characters) makes a great show!

Of Course,
I havent seen one of those in years...

Snowcrafta
June 16th, 2006, 07:00 PM
Cartoons = American television shows that are animated. ALWAYS ment to be humorous in some fashion.

Anime = Cartoon series from Japan that vary in genre. Drawing style is much different from american style animation as well.

Suzuru
June 16th, 2006, 07:21 PM
Replied to a bump, lol. Didn't realize it was that old.

thank you for agreeing (is that how u spell it? ) with me. western drawn sucks. it IS a fact. true anime, with a good story, and lovable ( and love-to-hate-able characters) makes a great show!

Of Course,
I havent seen one of those in years...

I can name at least 5 that are showing or have been shown in just this and spring season that fit your general blurb. If you are talking about so called classics, it's not the fact that is classic, it probably isn't. It's the fact it's one of the 1st things of Anime that you've seen and that is just begginers impression "OMG they no longer make Anime liek they used to!" basically a BS in my view. maybe you got too used to it or watched too many. Because if you eat so much of the similar, you get sick of it, no matter how good. Moderation is important.

Snowcrafta
June 16th, 2006, 07:27 PM
Because if you eat so much of the similar, you get sick of it, no matter how good. Moderation is important.

I do beg to differ.

Shadow_God_10
June 16th, 2006, 08:16 PM
anime by far... but then again there's always...BUGS BUNNY FTW

natetheffrer
June 16th, 2006, 09:51 PM
I always know something is anime by seeing if the persons eyes are huge and shiny. I also know if a show is anime because they have really wierd names.

Suzuru
June 16th, 2006, 10:09 PM
I always know something is anime by seeing if the persons eyes are huge and shiny. I also know if a show is anime because they have really wierd names.

There is quite a bit of Anime where ayes are normal. take Blood+ for example.

Squeek
June 16th, 2006, 10:11 PM
1) Old threads deserve to stay old.

2) Dragon Ball and all of its sequels / movies / spinoffs are anime.

3) As per #1 and #2, locked.

~Squeek