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scorpio1690
July 2nd, 2003, 03:14 AM
In the FF games they're just taking the stuff from the old games and changing them a LITTLE bit and putting them in the new games. For instance, FFMQ has the cloister of trials where you get the rat tail to give to Bahamaut, what does FFX have? A cloister of trials. FF9 has the four elemental mirrors or whatever right? With the 4 guardians protecting them. FFMQ, the guardians are the main bosses in FFMQ, and Marilith and LIch are exactly the same but with different names, and I swear yuo can fight Kraken when you're underwater in Memoria in FF9. And I've heard Memoria before, they probably took an old thing and made Memoria in FF9.
QreepyBORIS
July 2nd, 2003, 09:49 AM
Same makers. Final Fantasies 1-6 were the same: SAVE THE ****ING CHRYSTALS!!!!!! Four through six were good, 1-3 were the same and blew ass.

FF7 was really original, though!
scorpio1690
July 2nd, 2003, 03:20 PM
#2 never came out in NA until just a couple months ago in FF Origins and 3 on SNES is 6 on PS....
clairmai
July 2nd, 2003, 05:27 PM
yes it's true. this is one of the maindownslides of the final fantasy series. But even the IDEA of final fantasy isn't original. Secret of Mana, and some other secret of ______ were the first, Final Fantasy has alot of similarities with those two games.
scorpio1690
July 2nd, 2003, 05:33 PM
Well, I've never played those so I must say, Final Fantasy games are better
clairmai
July 2nd, 2003, 05:43 PM
well obviously, 'cuz THEY ARE better..
SotN
July 2nd, 2003, 06:27 PM
Ugh... you people call yourselves RPG fans?

FFMQ is not an FF.

FF1-7 use the crystals as plot devices, not the main focus.

FF7 was definatly not the most original, nearly all of its ideas are drawn from older FFs. If FF7 was indeed the most original, name 5 things it did first. Other than graphics, that is.

yes it's true. this is one of the maindownslides of the final fantasy series. But even the IDEA of final fantasy isn't original. Secret of Mana, and some other secret of ______ were the first, Final Fantasy has alot of similarities with those two games.

the first RPG was Dungeons and Dragons. ALL Rpgs, especially MMRPGs, have many similarities with D&D. The first console RPG was Ultima (also the name of a spell in FF series, they named it that to do homage to the older RPGs)

SoM came after FF. also, SoM has nothing to do with FF, other than it was made by Square. Secret of Evermore (which you are talking about, I believe?) came out after SoM, had of few of SoM gameplay concepts, and was a pretty good game. But definatly not first.
QreepyBORIS
July 2nd, 2003, 07:01 PM
FFMQ is not an FF.

FF1-7 use the crystals as plot devices, not the main focus.

FFMQ is an FF.

FF7 Used Crystals of Earth WAter Ice Fire and Wind? I didnt know that....
scorpio1690
July 2nd, 2003, 09:41 PM
(Materia)
SotN
July 3rd, 2003, 02:09 AM
Yep, the Holy and Meteo materia.
scorpio1690
July 3rd, 2003, 02:10 AM
Wasn't Holy Materia just called Holy Materia and Black Materia called Black Materia, then they wouldn't be earth, fire, water or wind right?
QreepyBORIS
July 3rd, 2003, 01:07 PM
Exactly.
Lagg
July 8th, 2003, 06:02 PM
hey hey, don't be trashing 3, that was one of my fav FF of all time.
SotN
July 8th, 2003, 06:25 PM
Wasn't Holy Materia just called Holy Materia and Black Materia called Black Materia, then they wouldn't be earth, fire, water or wind right?

yeah, but I think Holy and Meteo sound better. But it's still a battle over crystals, which culminates in a battle with a God-like being (also in previous FFs)
scorpio1690
July 8th, 2003, 08:27 PM
Meteor, it's Meteor, and by culminates in a battle with a God-like being, do you mean fighting with Sephiroth who should have been a god and Kefka and Chaos and Zeromus.....Chaos was a god.....
scorpio1690
November 2nd, 2003, 02:55 PM
:D
AstralArcanum
November 2nd, 2003, 03:21 PM
sephiroth i dont think is a god but it does seem like he is because he does appear in the screenshots in the moive. i think they just stunned him and sent him to one of those planets he blew up
RobbyZero
November 2nd, 2003, 03:34 PM
back then ( FF 1-6 )

Black )
White )
Holy )

for the magic users. simple as that.

Meteo ( a.k.a Meteor )

Was only seen used in FF6 when the old geezer saves you all by casting it and sacrificing himself.
scorpio1690
November 2nd, 2003, 08:42 PM
Dude, wasn't that FF4? Where you like, are Cecil and you wanna be a paladin and everythin?
RobbyZero
November 2nd, 2003, 08:57 PM
wasnt that 6?

might of been 4...where you turn into a paladin...hhmm its hard to remember when I havnt played ff1-6 in so long....even though i have origins for ps1..
jewpinthethird
November 2nd, 2003, 09:15 PM
My RPG will own all of you and every FF game ever. And it will have the best battle system ever. You just wait.
Moogy
November 2nd, 2003, 09:26 PM
is it rpg maker? because rpg maker is pwn

but c++ is more pwn

...post count +1
Teegarden
November 2nd, 2003, 10:43 PM
Chaos was a huge dragon.
FF7 wasn't all that original.
MQ isn't really part of the FF series as it was made by Square USA but is a FF game nonetheless. *Kinda* like Chrono Trigger is.
And to be fair, ALL the FFs are extremely top-notch. They have entirely different storylines but the plot devices are still almost the same. Most RPG series do this.

[EDIT: Jewpin where's your RPG I want to try it out, if you're finished already.]
Moogy
November 3rd, 2003, 03:57 PM
chrono trigger is not vaguely an ff

square has made many non ffr rpgs

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