View Full Version : Why do you play FFR (the game)?

07-31-2011, 12:42 AM
I think everyone here knows that FFR isn't exactly the most fully-featured rhythm game around. All the charts are 4-key; there are no holds, mines, xmods, or marvelous judgments; the game isn't as flashy or customizable as some others; some songs are entirely blue arrows; and so on. Stepmania's been around for years, and is objectively a far better game.

And yet, despite what some might perceive as drawbacks, we still play and enjoy the game itself. What are your personal reasons for this? Is it the high scoring system and the competitive shaving of goods, or the nostalgic and set-in-stone gameplay, or the accessibility and simplicity? Or something else entirely? Don't think about the community, since you can be part of it without actually playing the game - just think about why the game itself keeps you playing after so long.

So, let's discuss. I think the community's answer to this could influence the future direction of the site.

07-31-2011, 12:49 AM
The main reason for my stay on FFR is to prepare me for the real life. As strange as this sounds, I use FFR to set my limitations which I will discover when it comes to my future. More importantly, it's to understand how emotionally stable I am when it comes to failures on FFR and how to celebrate how much I have achieved in the past.

Also, you'll deal with a good variety of people in this community. Obviously you'll encounter people who aren't your type vs. people who are. Similarly, in the real world, you will meet these two types of people as well.

tldr, to prepare myself (in terms of how I can handle what comes my way) for the future.

07-31-2011, 12:51 AM
setting and accomplishing goals i set for myself.

also: the weekly updates of songs is nice. i dont have to store shit tons of packs or files on my HD.. or go through the time to download them.

07-31-2011, 12:51 AM
Ah, but you could get the same stuff from SM, right? (Or any other active rhythm game.) You could hang around the SM scores thread and share scores, for instance. So why do you play FFR itself, when there are other "better" alternatives?

07-31-2011, 12:55 AM
Ah, but you could get the same stuff from SM, right? (Or any other active rhythm game.) You could hang around the SM scores thread and share scores, for instance. So why do you play FFR itself, when there are other "better" alternatives?

FFR was my first rhythm game I ever picked up seriously. I find it better to make goals with a game you first start off with to keep a longer lasting memory. Like in life, we all begin making goals when we were young. I remember saying, "I wanted to be a doctor one day" when I was a little boy. Even though medical practices is out of my limitations, I will still remember the goals I have made ever since I was a child.

07-31-2011, 12:57 AM
This thread is tl;dr.

Community and competition. My reasons.

07-31-2011, 01:11 AM
Just for the music. Not much of a competitive person..

DossarLX ODI
07-31-2011, 02:02 AM
All the charts are 4-key

This is a big reason why I play FFR. When you start getting to more panels, it encourages "new generation stepping" and also makes for much more awkward anchors and layering abuse. 4 keys is enough for file memorability and also allows players of all playing types (one handed, spread, index, etc) to give it a shot. Honestly, going above 4key is like attempting to turn the game into music theory, which is NOT what I find memorable.

there are no holds, mines, xmods, or marvelous judgments

Holds, mines, and xmods are fake difficulty. Holds and mines are mainly abused in stepfiles. xmod is not my interest since it's another AAA-fest type thing about getting several less perfects by trying to memorize certain changes of a chart. Most of the time when I do xmod files, the bpm changes or stops aren't easy to detect, so it winds up being fake difficulty again.

some songs are entirely blue arrows

I actually like this since it's only for a few files, and it gives the nostalgic feel. I remember when Balloon Fever was all pink notes, and Grand Galop Chromatique was all red notes.

high scoring system and the competitive shaving of goods

Raw scoring would be better, I'm not really fond of the AAA fest thing (shaving off a few goods). However, it is interesting to see big improvements on really hard files (such as in my MiniMegaTournament). It makes for interesting competition. I'm personally not too competitive unless in a tournament or trying to achieve a high goal.

the accessibility and simplicity

Yes. I don't need to download a ton of packs that I don't want to play, and I don't lack files if I'm ever in multiplayer (unless it's a token or something).

Holds and mines remind me of "new generation stepping". I like memorable files - files which have a certain part that stands out and makes me remember after playing it while also having high replay value. Since FFR is flash based, we saw an example of a cool file - Winning. This was a neat visual challenge; holds/mines aren't "nice visuals", they've instead been a huge annoyance seeing how much they're abused.

There are many memorable songs on FFR too - and seeing how I've accomplished a lot of tough goals on stepmania, it's interesting to see how I do on these files. I even made my own tournament to see how much of the file I actually do (since chord cohesion doesn't exist in FFR, I can't BS patterns as easily).

07-31-2011, 02:05 AM

and I've become pretty close to people in the community here. It's kinda like home.

07-31-2011, 02:44 AM
FFR was the first Music Rhythm site I found, and Loved it.

Also, Competition and the Music. I've also met some amazing people.

Also, all I do with my life is play video games, so this helps me out.

07-31-2011, 07:07 AM
people come because of me, i come because people want me. simple fact.

but no really. i HATE this game... i just come here to post SM scores now XD
and i like being good at something

07-31-2011, 05:36 PM
Personally I played the other rhythm games and I say FFR is the most fun for me. And I also think it's the best flash game I have ever played as well.

tokens, ranks, fun love how it works etc

07-31-2011, 05:44 PM
Immediate uploading of scores to a competitive database structure (unlike SM) with songs that I'm capable of trying to get better at and perfecting instead of trying to mash less and pass insane crap I'll never do while I realize there are people far better than I'll ever reach. I also don't have to download the music and it has a community that's easier to familiarize with

07-31-2011, 05:51 PM
It's fun :P (Yes that's it xD)

DossarLX ODI
07-31-2011, 06:01 PM
That's also a good point. Many other rhythm games have confusing layouts and too much complicated shit. FFR is easy to understand and there aren't any unfair bonus/extra things ingame (like you know how Guitar Hero has Star Power which increases score more and you need to remember certain star power paths, and then how you can release notes to hit hammer-ons or pull-offs).

If there's also another thing I should mention, FFR has a reasonable timing window. It is just ludicrous to see games have ridiculously small timing windows; that's again just fake difficulty and makes you focus more on the steps than the actual song itself. Although there are a few files in FFR that have nasty difficulty spikes (lol 12 bar bloops and Crowdpleaser), it's done a pretty good job at managing them in a way that isn't too extreme. If you've been to Thirdstyle, wow, their files are simple for a large majority of the file and then some insane difficulty spike comes along later in the file that totally throws off the difficulty.

07-31-2011, 06:03 PM
I don't play the game anymore due to lag issues regardless if using standalone or not but I hang around to annoy the community with my input, music and files.

07-31-2011, 06:08 PM
To get my overall rank lower and to piss people off in the forums,multiplayer, and chats

07-31-2011, 06:10 PM
I dont

07-31-2011, 06:42 PM
First rhythm game I found on the computer after I became infatuated with ddr a few years back. Meeting some amazing people and hearing their life stories. The music, and continuous updates. Not having to download every song that I want to play.

07-31-2011, 06:45 PM
I think the main reason I like FFR over SM is the fact that it's not stored on my computer. SM was great feature wise and I had a lot more files, but if something goes wrong I have to spend hours upon hours getting all the stuff I had back. FFR will be there for me no matter what computer I'm on, and the files are constantly expanding. Also, the higher-level files are challenging enough without the need of holds or mines.

Andrew Mitchell
07-31-2011, 06:57 PM
because i continually get better at it

07-31-2011, 07:03 PM
I've never tried Stepmania

it looks really intimidating to get into and I don't have much room on my computer to hold lots of songs <___<

also I heard they don't have multiplayer on Stepmania OR recording of scores/overall/average rankings at all... which sounds like it kinda sucks.

07-31-2011, 07:13 PM
it boosts my self esteem

07-31-2011, 07:20 PM
I have no life.


07-31-2011, 07:26 PM
Because I make amazing friends here. You guys know who you are <3

07-31-2011, 07:28 PM
Easier than Stepmania and its fun.

07-31-2011, 07:39 PM
"Why do you play FFR (the game)?" - Because for some reason I can never stop playing this damn game no matter how much I want to quit.

idk, something about having selected files being released to you makes me want to have to play every file in the game, stepmania I can download all the packs I want and get tons of songs but wont even play like 95% of the songs I just downloaded.

DossarLX ODI
07-31-2011, 10:25 PM
Haha Plan, I feel the same way too - and I like to submit to the FFR batches. Contributing to the game is also fun.

07-31-2011, 10:27 PM
Why do you play FFR (the game)
Because ever since the 21's of july I decided to max out my fc bar (from 51 fc's then), after that I'm done. FFR is too easy and boring imo

07-31-2011, 10:32 PM
I honestly think this thread is a way to encourage and garner the "simplicity" movement which I disagree with. Simplicity is enjoyable in itself, but that's sort of a stalement in regards to expansion for more possibilities.

To answer the question however, I now tend to play FFR to connect with the community, as opposed to getting the best scores possible. I just really appreciate making simfiles and having others interact with them. I tend to lose the fun if I try to get as many AAAs as possible. I care about the people more than the scores.

08-1-2011, 05:38 AM
i'm usually on here for the community more than anything else
although i still play occasionally when i have nothing else to do, just the game gets boring to me now because i've already played most of the songs already, and 6key is more fun :cool:

this plz!

you guys need to 6key more



8 Hour Whore
08-1-2011, 06:16 AM
FFR was the first rythmn game I ever played. As well it was the only game that I've ever known myself to be decent at. Before FFR I had no gaming skills. After FFR my competitive drive drew me in to be better then people on all sorts of games. Every time I see my rank gets too high on this game I always come back to lower it even further. Competition and I'm a whore. That's simply it xD

08-1-2011, 08:44 AM
summing up entire thread

1) community
2) competition
3) comparison
4) comfort

com 8-)

08-1-2011, 08:49 AM
The music on here is good why else? And I'm too lazy to go download Sm again or all those huge packs. Setting goals and see how good I can become before I max out. FFR is simple and easy.

08-1-2011, 07:36 PM
Because I make amazing friends here. You guys know who you are <3

Yea I know, we are good friends.

08-1-2011, 10:13 PM
I don't have to download it and Stepmania is a graphics whore.

08-2-2011, 01:06 AM
Because I make amazing friends here. You guys know who you are <3


Also, thanks to my drastic skill increase it's hard to stop. It feel like a waste.

08-2-2011, 01:16 AM
For the community mostly. Also, I pick FFR over SM because I picked up FFR first. I learned everything from here so SM will never be as good in my eyes.

08-2-2011, 01:18 AM
Multiplayer, competition, and of course the many people I have met <3