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bluguerrilla
10-13-2008, 01:04 PM
Ok, this is round two of "fix the freakin' sync".

Post the name of any simfile you feel is offsync here.

Also, if you can, try to estimate how far off you think the gap is by saying something like "It's in the first perfect window" or "It's in the second good window" or something like that.
The very first window being the average window.

Again, do not mention songs that are on this list (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/FFRStats/FFRSongs.php) and come before level 175 (Maple Leaf Rag).


If it's a rock simfile, fixing the sync can be difficult (tedious, annoying) as a dynamic bpm is hard to get right, and ddreamstudio can't sync rock simfiles very well, as far as I know.

If someone has figured out how to get it to work well with rock songs, let me know.

And thanks. : )

The FIX ME List

# Name - verified sync error

1 Vi Sitter I Ventrilo Och Spelar DotA - Gap, -40
2 {Frozen} - BPM, YNS etc
3 Klung Kung 2004 -
4 Tribal Revival -
5 AAA -
6 Happy Happy Shining Star -
7 Aurora -
8 Divinity -
9 {Blaze} -
10 Oasis -
11 ReRicked -
12 Summer ~Speedy Mix~ -

dandandamdandan1111
10-13-2008, 01:25 PM
did GO! get fixed yet?

dore
10-13-2008, 01:26 PM
rrrgh

I just had a list in my head yesterday of like 5 songs. But I forgot them all D:

Tasselfoot
10-13-2008, 01:34 PM
i fixed go with the last round of songs.

by far the #1 on this list has gotta be DotA. and, of course, frozen. beyond that, i'm open to suggestions.

dore
10-13-2008, 02:19 PM
Frozen just needs to get shifted a 16th note earlier, from what I can tell.

dag12
10-13-2008, 02:20 PM
I thought the BPM itself was wrong for {Frozen}.
Seems to me like it becomes progressively offsynch.

x After Dawn x
10-13-2008, 02:21 PM
KlungKlung2004? The steps for that song come way earlier than they should. It could be by a 16th note or so, but it might be even more.

TC_Halogen
10-13-2008, 02:36 PM
Tribal Revival is late synced.

There are more that I've played, but I can't get them off the top of my head.

Zageron
10-13-2008, 02:49 PM
Klung Kung 2004, and AAA (I think AAA is still off sync).

badman7772
10-13-2008, 03:02 PM
Happy Happy Shining Star
Klung Kung 2004
Aurora
Divinity
{Blaze}
Oasis
ReRicked
Summer ~Speedy Mix~

That's all I can think of.

Patashu
10-13-2008, 04:21 PM
obligatory Excite Bike

ps if you're fixing sync, move the song instead of the arrows so that replays stay on? would probably be a lot more effort but it's just a thought

robertsona
10-13-2008, 04:48 PM
KlungKung is on twice

bluguerrilla
10-13-2008, 05:09 PM
Thanks, keep 'em coming.

Zageron
10-13-2008, 05:17 PM
Also, {Blaze} isn't off sync...

dore
10-14-2008, 10:26 AM
Klung Kung - it needs to be at least a frame later, maybe -40?
Tribal Revival feels alright
AAA - shift one frame later
HHSS - 1-2 frames later, maybe -50ish
Aurora - one frame later

I'll do more later.

TC_Halogen
10-14-2008, 10:36 AM
HHSS is fine.

I don't know, Tribal feels really off for me. =/

bluguerrilla
10-14-2008, 10:50 AM
Is it just me or do different speed mods seem to have different gaps?

Probably just me.

jimerax
10-14-2008, 11:00 AM
and ddreamstudio can't sync rock simfiles very well, as far as I know.

never heard of it..

bluguerrilla
10-14-2008, 11:06 AM
never heard of it..

You mean you've never heard that it can't sync them well?

I was just repeating what the guy that made ddreamstudio told me.

I don't know the program well and haven't bothered to learn how to use it so maybe it's easier than I'm making it out to be.

jimerax
10-14-2008, 11:15 AM
yea.

IMO if you sync songs by ears, SM editor would be the same in terms of syncing accuracy, just DDRS can set dynamic bpms easier.

championanwar
10-14-2008, 11:58 AM
R3 Omega Mix

TC_Halogen
10-14-2008, 10:44 PM
Kakke Echo is a bit late.

Xandertrax
10-16-2008, 06:35 AM
A lot of the widget songs in FFR just have a bad offset.

for mine, Break Out Break Out (heavy), the steps come late, in the good space after the perfect frame.

plus, the sync of the whole song is off, but that's just becuase I sucked at syncing back then and it was dynamic bpm.

I'll go through the rock genre later, to see if there's just offset problems on some.

jyris1
10-23-2008, 09:21 AM
I was just repeating what the guy that made ddreamstudio told me.



I am the guy that made ddreamstudio and, let it be on the record that ddreamstudio CAN sync rock files..... very well, in fact.

but you need to know the tricks.

Xx{Midday}xX
10-23-2008, 10:11 AM
Blue-Violet. Although the FFR I play is generally offsync now (wasn't about 3 months before, no idea why it is now), Blue-Violet is further offsync than the other levels. What do you all think?

HK_pjpaveloffga
10-23-2008, 10:30 AM
the Pylons are trap balls.
nuff said

jimerax
10-23-2008, 10:50 AM
the Pylons are trap balls.

because of misrhythms and BPM, not only gap

Necros140606
10-23-2008, 10:56 AM
awesome!

will later tell you peeps what's offsync

Coolgamer
10-23-2008, 02:16 PM
the Pylons are trap balls.
nuff said

Agreed, it wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't a token unlock song.

Xx{Midday}xX
10-23-2008, 03:01 PM
Think of it as a modern synthlight file.

danny53x
11-3-2008, 06:42 PM
I really want Klung Kung fixed.
And fix One More Night (Synthwulf Remix)

kommisar[os]
11-3-2008, 07:51 PM
90% of songs in ffr are late. i can even make a video with blatantly late keytaps

dore
11-3-2008, 08:13 PM
;2863166']90% of songs in ffr are late. i can even make a video with blatantly late keytaps

That's because the arrows in FFR appear on the latest perfect frame, so the songs have to be synced what looks like 1 frame late so that the arrows are in the middle of the timing window.

hi19hi19
11-3-2008, 10:49 PM
Excite Bike!

samurai7694
11-3-2008, 11:27 PM
Nippon Zenkoku GABA Ondo. It's really off-sync.

TC_Halogen
11-3-2008, 11:49 PM
So, with the recent change from Flash Player 10 to Flash Player 9, things got a bit better synced overall. Tribal Revival isn't off by that much to me anymore, and Kakke Echo is fine.

Never had problems with Klung Kung '04. Battle Theme #37 is early on my end (note that I say MY end.).

-KIDTHONG-
11-4-2008, 12:30 AM
rericked shouldnt have 32ed rolls

MooMoo_Cowfreak
11-4-2008, 12:34 AM
;2863166']90% of songs in ffr are late. i can even make a video with blatantly late keytaps

I often will do eighths in a swing triplet style for fun and still get perfs.

Excite Bike!

lol.

Also, The Pylons Are Trap Balls is good the way it is. lulzy steps for a lulzy song.

i love you
11-4-2008, 02:43 AM
I may be wrong but The Lunatic Princess seems to be a little bit off for me.

HammyMcSquirrel
11-8-2008, 10:48 PM
These two both had the arrows being early.

Incognito v2
Three Ring Nightfall

Nullifidian
11-13-2008, 10:45 AM
Coat czech felt really offsync to me.

who_cares973
11-13-2008, 11:09 AM
the notes come late in F for me

customstuff
11-13-2008, 04:33 PM
GO! For sure.

Patashu
12-11-2008, 01:39 AM
yo what happened to this? I was stoked for resyncs

kommisar[os]
12-11-2008, 07:32 AM
i have to play with sound off to get any sort of decent timing score

bluguerrilla
12-11-2008, 08:04 AM
I just forgot. lol.

After I finish the batch, I'll firm these up.

Nightfirecat
12-11-2008, 10:15 AM
One song that has been bugging me for a while is -Y. That song has been offsync forever.

kmay
12-11-2008, 02:05 PM
fix break out! break out! and goodbye, my love

Patashu
12-11-2008, 03:14 PM
oh btw

since no one said it, Silence is offsync

and FotBB

edit: and turkish march -might- be a tiny bit offsync? or I might just suck crap at turkish march

Zageron
12-11-2008, 05:56 PM
Infernoplex

Xx{Midnight}xX
12-11-2008, 06:03 PM
Isn't The Divine suicide of K's intro still unsynced?

Patashu
12-11-2008, 06:04 PM
Isn't The Divine suicide of K's intro still unsynced?

it's a lot harder to sync just part of a song than to do a quick change to the gap/bpm

Patashu
12-13-2008, 04:22 AM
Over The Rave's chart is a frame late, possibly a bit less

edit: oh, coat czech I think is fine but I -think- the bursts are misrhythms? pretty sure it's just 32nds or something lol

Zybanthia
12-13-2008, 04:33 AM
Silence is offsync

and FotBB

These levels are both under ID 175. Any levels under ID 175 aren't going to be synced.

NekoGon
12-13-2008, 04:57 AM
oh btw

since no one said it, Silence is offsync

and FotBB

edit: and turkish march -might- be a tiny bit offsync? or I might just suck crap at turkish march
turkish march is offsync i think, i'm pretty sure i hit the notes right but i still get goods ?_?

Patashu
12-13-2008, 04:58 AM
These levels are both under ID 175. Any levels under ID 175 aren't going to be synced.

blarr

okay then

p.s. if you're getting greats you're playing the wrong game

NekoGon
12-13-2008, 05:02 AM
whoops

Zybanthia
12-13-2008, 05:35 AM
Yeah, I wouldn't mind a slight offset change on Flight of the Bumblebee either. Too bad.

Patashu
12-13-2008, 05:42 AM
if anyone has a good, different mp3 of a flight of the bumblebee I'll make a v2 with PR patterns :twisted:

stavie33
12-13-2008, 09:07 AM
These two both had the arrows being early.

Incognito v2
Three Ring Nightfall

Three ring nightfall is the most off sync song in the entire game, it goes to practically nothing due to that

Every easy rock song is messed up pretty much

HHSS is perfect for me, but that might just be me

Blue-violet is wayyy off on my end, the notes are maybe, 1-2 frames late? I'd go with -40 or something...

I'm not sure if tokens need fixing, but here's a list of general songs...

Emotions v2
R3 Omega Mix
Seven (seems late by 1 frame or so)
Gabba Onda
Spontaneous Hydroxide v2
Sifon
Klung Klung


Blue Noah also seems a little off to me, maybe it's just me, but something seems a little...out of sync

Also Turkish March is wayyy offsync, sometimes to late, sometimes to early, it's just wack...

hi19hi19
12-15-2008, 12:12 AM
how about fei longer

Patashu
12-15-2008, 01:18 AM
oh IIRC Switchback [Heavy] is a bit off

Brilliant Dynamite Neon
12-19-2008, 08:24 PM
Snake Riddim is pretty late.
Ninja Lad is late, but not as much.
Fei Longer seems a teeny bit late in places but that might be necessary for correct sync.
3020, see above.

foilman8805
12-19-2008, 08:40 PM
Fei Longer felt good to me.

I think Dimensions might be off. Take a look at that song.

Xandertrax
12-19-2008, 10:17 PM
Etude in E Major is off a bit.

kmay
12-19-2008, 10:25 PM
victims and martyrs

Brilliant Dynamite Neon
12-21-2008, 09:19 PM
Moonlight River = slightly late
I Hate The 80s = maybe a bit late at the beginning, I can't really tell


otherwise it's good