Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD
1. MrPopadopalis25 - Town
This is the first sign from Plop that justifies a town read on him. Even though it was very early in the game, town members would be keen to rolehunting as with either alignment it is certainly detrimental to rolehunt early on but also asinine to do so too.
We all saw Plop nitpick Nydus (and who would've guessed; Plop was right entirely). This isn't alignment indicative, although seeing Plop be generally dissatisfied having a cleared town whose first posts were nothing but laughable. Plop as a town would want a Clear who is capable of doing something, where as a wolf would want a town clear to not be helpful to town.
In reference to Benguin, who has a tendency for being inactive through games (#TimeZoneProblems), asking for at least one lean from each alignment. Further indication that Plop is more than likely town than wolf.
Last posts in quarrel with Curry are towntelling; certainly to the extent that he stated a solid reason for having a scum gut read on Curry and him being defensive about it. I see the possibility of a H/W relationship between them.
2. Vendetta21 - Null
I can never read V accurately due to how concise his tone is during the first Day. He came into game stating his typical seering post on the same target (noting due to meta) while also nitpicking statements that Round initially made but that dissolved.
After a tangent of posts, V posts this. To me, V cannot be read accurately due to the 180 turns he performs when in the first day. V is a much stronger player the later the game goes, so in retrospect he never has cared about D0.
Interesting notions to point out would be his voting pattern and his "scum leans" on people. He called Choof a wolf, Plop a SK (due to meta patterning), Benguin a slight scum lean, and voted DBP. Also noted that players should pressure vote more often (though those would be considered forced fmpov.
3. _Zenith_ - Human
And don't you forget it!
4. reuben_tate - Null
Read is based from lack of posts, although it is interesting to note his post about being meta-cleared town because of being active, yet he isn't here again. Had a post on a phone that got deleted and mentioned it, along with claiming that the post would not have included anything important (which is probably a lie as anything helps D0 since it is a shitfest).
5. Red Blaster - Slight Town
Noting that there was potential rolefishing going on. Slightly towntelling.
Based on a meta read this post would mean he is a clear-cut wolf. Meta-speaking, he uses role PM as a town defense.
I read RB as slight town because of this post. He doesn't state anything about the information that was said/used but instead consoles another player in something that would benefit them of seeming town, which would come from a town's mouth and not a wolf. A wolf here would easily let me sink and burn, where RB comes in and tries to help.
Read Above statement, applies here as well.
I feel like this is indicative that RB has a possibly scumread on Curry because of what he said and what Plop pointed out.
6. blindreper1179 - Null
Grade A shit talker, and has not been involved with D0 as of now. Notable mentions would be that Blind claimed being mason and then wanting to claim SK for a RB interaction. Last post was a shitpost vote on Nydus, which is clearly a sign of Blind just not giving a fuck about D0 or the game at this point in time.
7. DarkManticoreX2 - Null, Slightly Town
Lack of posts warrants a null read, although this post demonstrates that Manti may be town.
Town would point to where town gets the most work done in any setup. Manti usually doesn't want to participate in early stages of the game unless he is pinged out or he has a wolf pinged out.
8. Roundbox - Null
Early posts were interrogated by a few players including myself, so I consider them to be irrelevant to now because we already spoke about that topic.
His early reads list is under done imo but they seem genuine reads. I am curious as to why Round is curious about why Nydus townreads plop. Could this be because Round scumreads plop or just generally missed something usable for a read?
I see a pattern, but why do I have the gut feeling if Round dies then this is a "soft" of some sort? I feel like he explicitly left out people for more than just null reads, but I could be wrong obviously.
9. Choof - Town
Ugh you have way too many posts to put into this list that I can indicate and base reads off of about you. I'll just say some general points instead, and if it is insisted that I bring up specific examples, I will.
Choof literally gets better and better every time we are both in a game and it shows; he picks up shit that most of us probably don't see clearly but still keeps the town tone with always trying to move forward, provide input, and generating data points.
Specifically, this post:
is town telling as it would truly bring a wolf into light, and a data point that town could use further into the game.
Bringing this up only because this coincides with an earlier read I had on someone else. Clearly exhibits the desire to possess a town clear that is decent and doesn't perform the way Nydus is performing right now.
I expect a "stop pocketing me" response by choof after he reads this list.
10. Charles Claythorne - Null, slight wolf read
There are only two posts to conclude anything read worthy on Mashi yet; the other 6 posts he has made are all shitposts/irrelevent.
Why would Mashi as a town be particularly curious about this read from V to Plop? V never gave him the proper answer (gave him a meta answer).
The reads list is okay; I don't know what else to say about it other than his reads differ from mine.
11. DaBackPack - Null, slight town lean.
16 posts which is already like triple what he has performed as a wolf in the last few games in the first day phase. Meta biased but whatever. I find a little perculiar event where DBP came back into thread, mentioned how lmao status Nydus' posts were, and then disappeared again.
12. Curry and Rice - Wolf
Oh man oh man this duder. Gut was telling me that he is a wolf and then I started reading his interactions with Plop and his reads.
Curry, again you have completely neglected to acknowledge that you indeed top scumread me and whereas you may have not said it directly in text, you had strongly pushed it indirectly by stating other facts you mentioned about Red. You did state that you have a precedent on Red due to a previous game on how he acted during it (basically meta-reading him), but not on me yet you explicitly state that you do not scumread Red more than you do myself AND THEN YOU FUCKING SAY THIS: (though, keep in mind that a "consideration" or "person to keep an eye on" is different from a "suspicion"). This here PROVES that you are keeping an eye on Red and casting suspicion onto myself, and that is where Plop states that you truly have me scumread more than Red.
This is a general mechanic in the game as anything could be applied to anyone so I do not understand the point you are trying to make here whatsoever.
Just so you know once again, the "Secondly" section clearly states that you scumread myself more than Red so yet again you are proving that your reads aren't as clear as you make them out to be and you exhibit wolf traits that could get their hands dirty in D0 with a mislynch by taking advantage of two players who naturally may sound scummy within two posts for very shaky reasons. You're a wolf and I'm pretty convinced about this.
13. Nydus (Town Innocent Child) - No need for a read
Honestly doesn't belong on the list but has been more wolf attributed than town orientated thus far as a town clear.
Curry and Rice
1. MrPopadopalis25 - Town
This is the first sign from Plop that justifies a town read on him. Even though it was very early in the game, town members would be keen to rolehunting as with either alignment it is certainly detrimental to rolehunt early on but also asinine to do so too.
We all saw Plop nitpick Nydus (and who would've guessed; Plop was right entirely). This isn't alignment indicative, although seeing Plop be generally dissatisfied having a cleared town whose first posts were nothing but laughable. Plop as a town would want a Clear who is capable of doing something, where as a wolf would want a town clear to not be helpful to town.
In reference to Benguin, who has a tendency for being inactive through games (#TimeZoneProblems), asking for at least one lean from each alignment. Further indication that Plop is more than likely town than wolf.
Last posts in quarrel with Curry are towntelling; certainly to the extent that he stated a solid reason for having a scum gut read on Curry and him being defensive about it. I see the possibility of a H/W relationship between them.
2. Vendetta21 - Null
I can never read V accurately due to how concise his tone is during the first Day. He came into game stating his typical seering post on the same target (noting due to meta) while also nitpicking statements that Round initially made but that dissolved.
After a tangent of posts, V posts this. To me, V cannot be read accurately due to the 180 turns he performs when in the first day. V is a much stronger player the later the game goes, so in retrospect he never has cared about D0.
Interesting notions to point out would be his voting pattern and his "scum leans" on people. He called Choof a wolf, Plop a SK (due to meta patterning), Benguin a slight scum lean, and voted DBP. Also noted that players should pressure vote more often (though those would be considered forced fmpov.
3. _Zenith_ - Human
And don't you forget it!
4. reuben_tate - Null
Read is based from lack of posts, although it is interesting to note his post about being meta-cleared town because of being active, yet he isn't here again. Had a post on a phone that got deleted and mentioned it, along with claiming that the post would not have included anything important (which is probably a lie as anything helps D0 since it is a shitfest).
5. Red Blaster - Slight Town
Noting that there was potential rolefishing going on. Slightly towntelling.
Based on a meta read this post would mean he is a clear-cut wolf. Meta-speaking, he uses role PM as a town defense.
I read RB as slight town because of this post. He doesn't state anything about the information that was said/used but instead consoles another player in something that would benefit them of seeming town, which would come from a town's mouth and not a wolf. A wolf here would easily let me sink and burn, where RB comes in and tries to help.
I feel like this is indicative that RB has a possibly scumread on Curry because of what he said and what Plop pointed out.
6. blindreper1179 - Null
Grade A shit talker, and has not been involved with D0 as of now. Notable mentions would be that Blind claimed being mason and then wanting to claim SK for a RB interaction. Last post was a shitpost vote on Nydus, which is clearly a sign of Blind just not giving a fuck about D0 or the game at this point in time.
7. DarkManticoreX2 - Null, Slightly Town
Lack of posts warrants a null read, although this post demonstrates that Manti may be town.
Town would point to where town gets the most work done in any setup. Manti usually doesn't want to participate in early stages of the game unless he is pinged out or he has a wolf pinged out.
8. Roundbox - Null
Early posts were interrogated by a few players including myself, so I consider them to be irrelevant to now because we already spoke about that topic.
His early reads list is under done imo but they seem genuine reads. I am curious as to why Round is curious about why Nydus townreads plop. Could this be because Round scumreads plop or just generally missed something usable for a read?
I see a pattern, but why do I have the gut feeling if Round dies then this is a "soft" of some sort? I feel like he explicitly left out people for more than just null reads, but I could be wrong obviously.
9. Choof - Town
Ugh you have way too many posts to put into this list that I can indicate and base reads off of about you. I'll just say some general points instead, and if it is insisted that I bring up specific examples, I will.
Choof literally gets better and better every time we are both in a game and it shows; he picks up shit that most of us probably don't see clearly but still keeps the town tone with always trying to move forward, provide input, and generating data points.
Specifically, this post:
is town telling as it would truly bring a wolf into light, and a data point that town could use further into the game.
Bringing this up only because this coincides with an earlier read I had on someone else. Clearly exhibits the desire to possess a town clear that is decent and doesn't perform the way Nydus is performing right now.
I expect a "stop pocketing me" response by choof after he reads this list.
10. Charles Claythorne - Null, slight wolf read
There are only two posts to conclude anything read worthy on Mashi yet; the other 6 posts he has made are all shitposts/irrelevent.
Why would Mashi as a town be particularly curious about this read from V to Plop? V never gave him the proper answer (gave him a meta answer).
The reads list is okay; I don't know what else to say about it other than his reads differ from mine.
11. DaBackPack - Null, slight town lean.
16 posts which is already like triple what he has performed as a wolf in the last few games in the first day phase. Meta biased but whatever. I find a little perculiar event where DBP came back into thread, mentioned how lmao status Nydus' posts were, and then disappeared again.
12. Curry and Rice - Wolf
Oh man oh man this duder. Gut was telling me that he is a wolf and then I started reading his interactions with Plop and his reads.
Curry, again you have completely neglected to acknowledge that you indeed top scumread me and whereas you may have not said it directly in text, you had strongly pushed it indirectly by stating other facts you mentioned about Red. You did state that you have a precedent on Red due to a previous game on how he acted during it (basically meta-reading him), but not on me yet you explicitly state that you do not scumread Red more than you do myself AND THEN YOU FUCKING SAY THIS: (though, keep in mind that a "consideration" or "person to keep an eye on" is different from a "suspicion"). This here PROVES that you are keeping an eye on Red and casting suspicion onto myself, and that is where Plop states that you truly have me scumread more than Red.
This is a general mechanic in the game as anything could be applied to anyone so I do not understand the point you are trying to make here whatsoever.
Just so you know once again, the "Secondly" section clearly states that you scumread myself more than Red so yet again you are proving that your reads aren't as clear as you make them out to be and you exhibit wolf traits that could get their hands dirty in D0 with a mislynch by taking advantage of two players who naturally may sound scummy within two posts for very shaky reasons. You're a wolf and I'm pretty convinced about this.
13. Nydus (Town Innocent Child) - No need for a read
Honestly doesn't belong on the list but has been more wolf attributed than town orientated thus far as a town clear.
Curry and Rice
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