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I specifically attached it to underaged drinkers, I guess it is "hypocrite" or "unapologetic law-breaker" their choice.
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What if the innocent person dies instead?
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Devonin, since you asked Ill stop posting altogether, but FYI I didn't insult anyone in this thread, only in the other one (but I mean come on they deserved it yeah?).
Chrissi, lmfao. EDIT: It was a serious laugh so we're all good.
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Haven't you ever had a habit that you hated doing but was hard to break? Personally I pick my toenails to shreds until they're painful. I hate doing it but I keep doing it. I don't want to do it. It feels beyond my control. Drinkers can feel sorry for drinking.
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sometimes innocent people are murdered by drunks and don't have time to "learn their lesson". And the drunk won't have a second chance
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Chrissi, if the innocent person dies everyone looses. But everyone can also say "wow... They died. All because this guy was drinking and killed her. I'll never drink because I'd never want to kill someone" (obviously they wouldn't think those exact words, but you get my point). In fact, 3 kids at my school got in a drunk accident. The girl died and the other two I think are still in critical condition. So many other kids have stopped drinking since then, at my school. |
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I'll proudly wear that label of hypocrite, but with Chrissi's definition.
I'm 20, and in college - obviously alcohol isn't a scarcity. I've certainly had my time with it, and reflecting on my experiences, I realize that it's not something I should take part in; it's not particularly healthy, and I can have just as much fun doing something sober. I'm not saying that I will forever abstain from drinking alcohol, just that for now I'll wait until it is legal, and when it does become legal for me, I won't be any kind of abuser (not that I ever was). I can damn well guarantee I won't be drinking on my 21st birthday either. That **** tastes pretty bad anyways, lol. And as for my 'raise the age to 25' comment that seems to be getting so much attention...it was partly said in jest. It was said to emphasize what I feel about the age being lowered - that is, I think it is a bad idea. Last edited by foilman8805; 08-21-2008 at 03:27 AM.. |
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rzr: that might be true in a small population of people that encounter a close or personal experience related to drinking, but that had no effect on people around the world because most think "aww whatever that will never happen to me" and forget about the incident.
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Oh tru dat Devonin I didn't mean it in a bad way though. I mean it kind of is if you think about it. Anyway my apologies.
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no, you dont accidentally put down 10 beers and go whoops... gee i might have drank a little bit much. and im not calling everyone who drinks dumbasses. just people who try to test the boundaries and see how far they can push their luck before hurting themselves
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I just figure that kids are going to drink anyway regardless of the age limit. How many times do we need to learn the lessons of prohibition that history has clearly laid down before us? We may as well lower the limit and put a focus on the realistic implications of drinking, instead of cutting away a potentially useful open arena and then leaving kids to figure out the effects of drinking in an environment where they are essentially on their own.
At least when someone's 18, they're finishing up high school. That is a good time to learn to drink responsibly -- where you won't feel like you're doing something illegal and essentially drinking behind closed doors. It's fun to get drunk once in a while, but a lot of kids come to college having NO IDEA what their limits are. And the reality is, bad things do happen. I've seen countless freshmen get sent to the hospital as a result of alcohol-related incidents. I also know two girls firsthand who have been raped because they were too drunk to know what was going on. The US's limit is considered high compared to the rest of the world, and they seem to be managing relatively fine. I think lowering the age to 18 and giving teenagers exposure to alcohol before they go off to college is a healthier alternative. Lowering the age removes the "forbidden fruit" aspect to alcohol, and gives teenagers a chance to experience/discuss it in an open manner such that it isn't simply a function of "bypassing something illegal." I also agree with Shash that driving is far more dangerous. It never made *any* sense to me why I could get a license as early as 16, and yet I wasn't allowed to have a beer until 5 years after? Seems very backwards to me. |
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The problem is that all age limits on things are by definition completely arbitrary. As there is never any appreciable difference between your ability to reason, consider consequences and make rational, affirming decisions on the day before your 21st birthday and the day of your 21st birthday, setting the limit at 21 is completely arbitrary and worthless.
So we make it 20, and we say the same thing of the two days between 19 and 20, and so on and so on. But then you shouldn't just remove the limit entirely, even though you can logic it out of existance, nor should you render these things all completely illegal, I'm a firm believer in individual rights. The trick seems to be to pick an age where you as a nation feel comfortable assuming that the -majority- of that age are sufficiently intelligent, mature and reasonable, as compared to years previous. It just really shows America's puritanical background that they have basically the strictest alcohol consumption laws ON EARTH besides countries that for (usually) religious reasons have simply banned alcohol consumption outright. |
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For example ; One time when I was still testing my limits. I had a glass full of alcohol. Shortly after I blacked out. (which is not being able to remeber anything within a certain time period.) I kept drinking till I had had a few bottles. I woke up in a hospital. I definitely wouldn't have done that knowing what I know now. My whole point is don't talk about something you know nothing about. |
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