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"There are no proven instances of anyone truly being unable to control their feelings about both sexes." What exactly are you trying to say? That there are proven instances of people being unable to control their feelings toward just one sex? On what basis do you think that only women can be bisexual, and that all these women are making a choice? I certainly didn't choose to be this way. And if I were a man I still wouldn't have chosen to be this way. It just happens. I see a girl and I like her. I see a guy and I like him. To me the matter is that people are sexy and gender is irrelevant to my attraction toward them. I like all people. And am capable of love toward all different types of people. I realize people have their preferences, but to me, to try to say I only like women or I only like men would be like trying to say that I only like white people or I only like asians or black people or something. It just doesn't work.
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Homosexuality is nothing more than the attraction to the same sex. If one has to study and asky why there is homosexuality, one should ask why there is heterosexuality.
When humans are born, all humans have nipples, this is because the body at an early age has not been designated with a sex yet because it's completely random. After a sex is chosen, the required parts are thus um...grown. Sometimes testosterone doesn't develop as it should in a male and in result sometimes produces one with a high voice and feminine appeal (which is true for most but not all homosexuals) and vice versa for women supposed to be men and whatnot. As far as the mind stuff goes, that can also be a factor because if you can think of something sexually appealing to you and get aroused then you have just stimulated yuorself mentally. Of course a small part of it is in the mind but for the most part, it's up to what your body wants. It could be a very blurry blend between mental and physical. I go by what my sexual appetite prefers really. It's the only fair thing to do.
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Forgive me if I'm misinterpreting this, but are you trying to say that humans are born without a gender? Doctors can tell you the gender of your baby while you're still pregnant...
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A) Sex isn't "completely" random
B) Sex isn't Gender C) Fetuses start out female, but if male, become so quite early on |
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No I mixed something up, gender is chosen while you are a fetus, that was my error.
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B) Sex isn't Gender
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Even so, elaborate please, devonin. I'm curious as to what you mean. Last edited by Relambrien; 12-2-2007 at 03:20 PM.. |
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I think what you were trying to say was that, until a certain stage of development, female and male fetuses are identical except for the sex chromosome. We develop all the same beginning parts, and then the chromosome kicks in and (in ideal situations) starts signalling the releases of hormones, which influence our development from that point forward. But we do all indeed start out more resembling females than males. However, we don't really have a sex until those chromosomes kick in and start signalling hormone production. Quote:
I am not putting ethics or morality into any of this. You're simply wrong and lying in order to sound smart. You can't even spell the word "straight".
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Sex: Biological Gender: Social Your sex is simply a term applied to you based solely on your biological chromasomal characteristics. XY? Your sex is male. XX? Your sex is female. Perhaps Chrissi can elaborate for me if there are specific terms for XXY and XYY and the other variations? Sex is pretty consistant everywhere on the planet. Since the term is biological, it is basically universally applied the same way to everyone. Your gender conversely is more of a set of sociological expectations tied to your sex, and absolutely can vary depending on where you live. In North America, traditionally the female gender role was one of submissive caretaking. Nurses are a female job and Doctors are a male job, blue is a male colour and pink is a female colour, Any behavior you are expected to exhibit, any quality you are expected to have is a quality of gender in your society. |
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XYY, I know is Meta-male. They have high testosterone and studies show that most end up in jail for overly aggressive behavior.
I forget the biological name for XXY, but it is a male that is usually tall and lanky, with other female-like characteristics. I don't think either has scientific proof that lead to homo/heterosexuality. Also devonin, 2400 posts, join date 2004! Spooky! Last edited by jecht3009046; 12-2-2007 at 08:04 PM.. Reason: ghey sp. |
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However, Klinefelter's is kinda bad. It leads to a whole bunch of problems. There are a whole spectrun of sex chromosome disorders which are just called.... sex chromosome disorders. There's everything from X to XXYY to XXXX. There are also XY women who just have a disorder that inhibits the Y chromosome's action so they grow up female.... and then most of them realize they are actually XY at puberty when they don't get a period, or when they try to have children and find out they aren't fertile.
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I usually like debating this, but the atmosphere on this site is touchy. Every day I'll be in multiplayer or video chat, usually multiplayer, and someone will call someone a ****** or say that they or their opinion is gay, and if I ask them politely not to act like that, then all of a sudden I must be a homosexual.
It's total bull****. I had to deal with a friend shooting themselves in the head because he was Christian and couldn't handle who he was, much less tell his family. He never told anyone at all. Every time someone calls something gay or uses innuendo as an insult, I have to restrain myself from attacking them, or at least yelling at them. Anyone who thinks people would willingly choose to be attacked and persecuted for most of their lives is insane. It is not a choice. I never choose to like women. And in court, the gay defense is often used. When some people claim they were attracted to a person only to find out they were really male, and somehow that makes it okay to kill or harm them. Of course, if a homosexual kills someone in self-defense or who had been tormenting them, it's a different story. Pisses me off to no end. |
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I caught your Pavlov mistake. I figured you were just lying to boost your argument. Are you saying you lied in an attempt to prove something? If so, it doesn't help your argument at all. |
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Okay...That's quite enough of that.
Dark Ronin: Chrissi has proven her credentials more than adaquately over the course of her time posting on this forum. I know people at the University of Waterloo entirely independant of this forum who could easily compare for you Chrissi's knowledge of the psychology department of that University with the reality of their psychology department if you seriously need that to happen. She's called your credentials into question, and your response was to flip out, instead of rationally respond. Saying "Ahaha, I tricked you and you didn't call me on it" doesn't mean you tricked her, it means she had the decency to not call you a liar to your face in public. She simply called your textbook evidence into question. (notice that attacking what you say instead of you is logically more sound) If you have such insurmountable proof in "several" of your textbooks, post some of the text, let us know exactly which books you're consulting. Chrissi: Seriously...there are so many better ways to try and prove your point than the way you went about doing so. You guys were both right on the borderline of sufficient personal attacks to just close this thread entirely, and now you've both pretty much taken a step over that line. This was a perfectly reasonable and interesting discussion. If Dark Ronin is so misguided in his claims, demonstrate where he's wrong, post some text (with a citation) from some of your books that state contrary to what he does. I hate to close a good thread just because some people are being too overzealous in claiming they're right, instead of simply -showing- that they are right. |
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