Old 02-19-2004, 12:26 PM   #1
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I don't really think so. I think we outgrew our simplistic need for Satan a long fucking time ago. Satan is just a scapegoat for the aspects of mankind we don't want to deal with. We don't ascribe the good we do to the direct influence of God, so why say Satan makes us do evil? My religious beliefs do affect my behavior, but I do good deeds because I enjoy doing them, not because God is forcing my hand.

Even if there were a Satan, does it make sense to believe in him? Of what consequence is it? Let's say I go out and murder someone because of the influence of Satan. Is the court going to buy it? No. Does it release me from culpability in the religious sense? No. Are most people going to believe that Satan made me do it? No.

Truly taking Satan seriously will drive you up the wall if you're religious. You have to doubt your own thoughts, emotions, and experiences. What if I think my church is on the wrong path? Is it really on the wrong path, or is it on the right path and Satan is just trying to drive me away from it? What if I have a mystical experience that doesn't fit within the expectations of my beliefs? Is it God showing me the truth, or is it Satan trying to deceive me?

Then you've got the people that abuse the name of Satan for money. Bob Larsen, for instance. Bob is always on the radio saying Satan is trying to destroy his ministry and he needs money. Bob, the reason you need money is the fact that you live in a million dollar house and you spend money like it's going out of style.

It seems to me if there was a Satan believing in him would be the same as inviting him into your life. It would be better to disbelieve and take responsibility for your own actions, which is bound to be far more fruitful than blaming your shortcomings on an invisible boogey-man.
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Old 02-19-2004, 12:29 PM   #2
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Let's say I go out and murder someone because of the influence of Satan. Is the court going to buy it?
wouldn't saying you're under possession be considered pleading insanity?
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Not necessarily, it's worked before, but only under certain circumstances.
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Old 02-19-2004, 01:40 PM   #4
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I think the question is more: are people so brainwashed and stupid that they don't realise doesn't exist in the first place. The answer: yes.
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..hmmm....Here we go with another flaming debate about religion...The church has screwed itself once again, by creating Satan as a scapegoat of what we don't want to deal with ala. Spec, and then denying his existence...that's it, I'm gonverting to Taoism...Food for Brainwashing: Santa...Satan..connection??neyh??
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Good = God (Hmmm...one less 'o')
Devil = Evil (Hmmm...an extra 'd')

Really, couldnt they come up with something a little more..creative?

Oh another relating to Santa. Everyone knows that Santa is just a made up person to get children to behave.

Child is good, child gets rewarded with a present.
Child is bad, child gets coal.

Person is good, person is rewarded by getting to go to heaven
Person is bad, person goes to hell.

Coal is used for burning. Hell is a place where there is a lot of burning.

Is God just an imaginary person to keep humans behaving?
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santa=satan if you rearrange the letters
he's definitely evil...he never brings me the right presents
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And he wears red.

Actually Christmas came from a pegan ritual called Satrunalia. The Catholic Church wanted to christianize the pegans. It has bad roots, and so I don't celebrate it. Besides Christ's birth was in the spring.
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That it was centright.
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