Old 06-30-2007, 06:29 PM   #21
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I knew Jewpin would.. something like that.
Edit: Actually, thought.
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Old 06-30-2007, 11:17 PM   #22
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Wow... incredible! Everything fits so perfectly! I'm not sure how much of it is true.. But damn, I'd wish all of it were.
Yeah... that's an issue though. Regarding the whole religion segment, we can't trust the movie completely because this astrology stuff isn't proven to actually be linked to religion, but it's scary how a lot is the same. Though, I don't like to jump to conclusions like the way this video does about certain religions being Exactly based on astrology, I would to also hope that everything said would be true. The facts could be used to seriously put religion out of its place (which I would incredibly love), but they just aren't proven in any way to be facts.
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Old 06-30-2007, 11:28 PM   #23
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"Truth is stranger than fiction because the truth is under no obligation to be consistant" Samuel Clemens

Despite this, humans are suckers for patterns and narratives, no matter how far fetched. Any story that explains how many unconnected things are in fact connected is automatically appealing to the human love of narrative.
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Old 06-30-2007, 11:33 PM   #24
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I knew Jewpin would.. something like that.
Edit: Actually, thought.
I finished watching it (wasn't planning to). I have no idea what "part I" had to do with anything aside from being interesting to watch. All of it was fairly interesting, but 1. they included no citations 2. these are some mighty bold claims that the government has been behind nearly all catastrophic events in American history.

They presented a very well thought out conspiracy theory that, despite being ludicrous, is somewhat believable. It presents enough information for the viewer to question what they commonly believe. But, ultimately, without citations and sources, it's all a bunch of hot gas and energy being wasted.

:edit: So, I went to their website, they have a source list. SpooooooO~ky. Must be true then.

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Old 07-1-2007, 01:38 AM   #25
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Interesting movie, entertaining at the least.

I laughed at the whole combining of world unions thing into one government. The legitamacy of that is absurd.


EDIT: devonin, look at all physics; everything is based on the hopes of a universal theory. We have no idea if there is one, but we just assume/hope for one because it makes things easier to understand and believe. Attemping the same thing here is merely human nature.
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Old 07-1-2007, 10:09 AM   #26
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im watching part 2 and so far this is mindblowing

im about 55 minutes in
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Old 07-1-2007, 04:45 PM   #27
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This is boring.
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Old 07-1-2007, 05:17 PM   #28
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Old 07-1-2007, 05:24 PM   #29
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Seriously, why even post when you have absolutely nothing to say.
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Old 07-2-2007, 01:11 AM   #30
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Me and my friend watched the first 20 minutes this morning on muh tv, and we're going to finish it up tomorrow.

Thanks for posting it man. Interesting stuff.
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Old 07-3-2007, 03:27 PM   #31
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George Carlin at 8 minutes<3. Will watch the whole thing&edit with a response soon.

edit: 36 minutes in. It's really remarkable. I've heard/watched numerous things similar to this but this is by far the best put together. Very interesting, and i'm not easily persuaded(sp?).

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Old 07-3-2007, 05:05 PM   #32
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Part one is incredibly interesting.

Going to a movie, then I'll finish this.
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Old 07-4-2007, 01:03 PM   #33
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A very, very well done video, and one of the scarier things i've seen in a while. Who knows how much of it is true, but it's all very convincing with no apperent flaws. To those bashing without actually watching it, stop making a fool of yourself and watch the damn video. I'm a Christian myself, but having seen the first part I'm going to do some research. If what it claims, with Jesus just being a repeated idea dating back to Egypt, than I don't know what to think
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Old 07-4-2007, 01:28 PM   #34
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If it makes you feel better, there is plenty of completely secular, non-religious proof that Jesus existed, and was a prophet, and (as I recall) there are even records of his being sentenced to death by crucifixion.
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Old 07-4-2007, 03:11 PM   #35
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I'm watching this video at the moment and I'm quite interested in it. I haven't quite finished it, but I already have a question. When they speak about the "ages", how does that work out? It says that every 2,250 years, the Earth enters a new age based on constellations. How does the Earth's orbit change to fit this?

Sorry if it's been answered, I have yet to read the thread because I'm watching the video.

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This is an amazing video. I'm not saying I believe it, but it really opened my mind to the possibilities. There is another movie on google video called "Loose Change 2nd Edtition" that deals with the 9/11 attacks. Thanks for sharing this video.
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Old 07-4-2007, 05:03 PM   #37
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Here is the source list right on their website: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/sources.htm.

Just out of curiosity, what was the song at the end of the movie? Music seems to be a thing the did not include in the source list.

EDIT: Nevermind, I've done some thinking. When the video stated that there'll be chips implemented into people, I thought it was absurd because no one in the right mind would have a chip that could track their every movement implemented into them. However, if the government starts to make rules that make it difficult for people to accomplish everything they need to do, such as: you can't drive if you don't get the chip, you can't travel if you don't get the chip, you can't work if you don't get the chip - it would just be simpler to just get the chip. The government is such a big powerful force that no single person will want to bother fighting it and plus, most people have the attitude: I don't do anything illegal, why would I care if I have a tracking chip or not? So yes, one day, it might be possible the chips will be implemented on people and we would consent to it.

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Old 07-8-2007, 01:34 AM   #38
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If it makes you feel better, there is plenty of completely secular, non-religious proof that Jesus existed, and was a prophet, and (as I recall) there are even records of his being sentenced to death by crucifixion.
Just trying to clear up some of my own confusion, but...

How could there be secular proof of Jesus being a prophet? I guess it depends on which definition of prophet we're using. If we're using this definition of prophet:

"A person regarded as, or claiming to be, an inspired teacher or leader."

then you are completely correct. But usually when I think of someone being a prophet, I think of something very different. The secular proof of Jesus being a "teacher or leader" doesn't really seem to have any religious significance. This religion could be completely false, yet he would still have the definition of a prophet.
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Um...He was regarded as, and claimed to be, an inspired teacher or leader. Therefore, he was a prophet, along with a very large number of people in that area at the time.

The religious significance was something that came after the fact, because people who -followed- his claimed to be inspired teaching and leadership described him as having been more divine than he ever claimed to be.

The definition of prophet you seem to want to use is "A prophet who has proven that their inspiration is genuine" of which I don't believe there are any.
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I'm watching this video at the moment and I'm quite interested in it. I haven't quite finished it, but I already have a question. When they speak about the "ages", how does that work out? It says that every 2,250 years, the Earth enters a new age based on constellations. How does the Earth's orbit change to fit this?
The Earth's tilt "wobbles." This website explains it all pretty well: http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/env99/env202.htm

Basically, since the Earth's tilt wobbles, the sun ends up rising in different places in the horizon. Wikipedia explains the rest pretty well.
Astronomy (the science): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precess..._the_equinoxes
Astrology (the made up stuff): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_age

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