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Old 06-15-2007, 10:09 PM   #21
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There are so many spammers in CT these days...lol.

Anyway, a partial part of the point of life (not even arguable from ANY viewpoint) is to make decisions based on a pool of possible decisions and to produce outcomes which result from those decisions. You then weigh those outcomes and decide whether or not to replicate those actions or revise those actions based on the observed consequences.

The meaning of life beyond this simple definition sort of differs from person to person:

-some believe it is to enjoy oneself
-some believe it is to glorify our creator
-some believe it is to gain as much knowledge and understanding as possible about observable phenomenon
-some believe it is to reproduce
-some believe it is to prolong the health of our species or planet, etc.
-etc.
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:11 PM   #22
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There are so many spammers in CT these days...lol.

Anyway, a partial part of the point of life (not even arguable from ANY viewpoint) is to make decisions based on a pool of possible decisions and to produce outcomes which result from those decisions. You then weigh those outcomes and decide whether or not to replicate those actions or revise those actions based on the observed consequences.

The meaning of life beyond this simple definition sort of differs from person to person:

-some believe it is to enjoy oneself
-some believe it is to glorify our creator
-some believe it is to gain as much knowledge and understanding as possible about observable phenomenon
-some believe it is to reproduce
-some believe it is to prolong the health of our species or planet, etc.
-etc.
So basically, life is a glorified game of KOTOR/KOTOR2/Jade Empire/NWN/NWN2.

If only. Really, I would totally vote for that if we had a choice.
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:26 PM   #23
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Tell that to the woman on welfare, two kids, and no husband.

Yeah, she can just go do something else.



Or maybe the political dissident in any number of the wonderful countries that are committing genocide right now. I'm sure they can just, y'know, go do something else and everything will work out.

Truly, their lives are just as meaningful as anyone else's, because they can improve their lives by simple willpower and determination.
Woman of welfare 2 kids and no husband. She can simply drop the kids. There is always a way out, just because you are blind to some simple truths. It may or may not be morally correct or even feasible to the morally constrained. I am just making a hypothetical point.

Their problem for getting themselves in the hole, still most are not helpless. Life isn't cut and dry. Most have potential to enjoy life in their own way. Heck I don't know, maybe they like pain and get enjoyment out of it. Whatever floats your boat.
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:31 PM   #24
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Woman of welfare 2 kids and no husband. She can simply drop the kids. There is always a way out, just because you are blind to some simple truths. It may or may not be morally correct or even feasible to the morally constrained. I am just making a hypothetical point.

Their problem for getting themselves in the hole, still most are not helpless. Life isn't cut and dry. Most have potential to enjoy life in their own way. Heck I don't know, maybe they like pain and get enjoyment out of it. Whatever floats your boat.
Sure, if you have no moral fiber and don't give a crap about your kids and aren't attached to them at all and can up and leave and live like a vagabond for a while until you either get killed or the cops catch up with you for child endangerment, among other things by then. Then you could instantly make your life better.

But what about the kids? How would their life be made better when their mom suddenly goes traveling bohemian on them and leaves on a quest to make her life better?

Your advice to them is to basically shut up, get over it, and move on in an attempt to make life more enjoyable.

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Old 06-15-2007, 10:33 PM   #25
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Certain humans feel as though they are satisfied with simply obtaining their own goals. I don't feel that way at all. I want to believe that there is more to life than suffering by having the same generic standards over and over again. I want people to be able to live for ever so that we don't worry about death or worry about a purpose in life unless it hits us. I feel as though such an idea is possible, but any type of deep purpose such as obeying a god or serving something you have no idea is beyond the capabilities of humans. I believe that the true purpose of humans still has yet to come (and any complete assumptions for such a purpose is skipping the chapters of life that has never happened yet), but I don't want to jump to conclusions that such a reason exists. This purpose might have something to do with outside forces such as a god, but I know that all the decent people in society would work togather instead of argue in such a time.

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Old 06-15-2007, 10:36 PM   #26
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Tell that to the woman on welfare, two kids, and no husband.

im gay so i wouldn't know.
lol you are gay
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:45 PM   #27
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Sure, if you have no moral fiber and don't give a crap about your kids and aren't attached to them at all and can up and leave and live like a vagabond for a while until you either get killed or the cops catch up with you for child endangerment, among other things by then. Then you could instantly make your life better.

But what about the kids? How would their life be made better when their mom suddenly goes traveling bohemian on them and leaves on a quest to make her life better?

Your advice to them is to basically shut up, get over it, and move on in an attempt to make life more enjoyable.

Point made.
Way to read out of context. You totally missed my point.
I already see, your view on things though. The sacrificial(hero) personality. Hey! whatever you want to do with your life, it is yours after all. If you enjoy being the donkey, live it! ;p
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:58 PM   #29
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Way to read out of context. You totally missed my point.
I already see, your view on things though. The sacrificial(hero) personality. Hey! whatever you want to do with your life, it is yours after all. If you enjoy being the donkey, live it! ;p
*shrugs* I'm not going to tell the citizens of Rwanda to 'just deal with it'. Sorry. When I make generalizations about the purpose of life, I try not to exclude anyone who's not, y'know, inapplicable to my incorrect statement. If I wanted discussion like that, I'd leave a comment on the myspace page of someone who was on Laguna Beach or The OC.
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Old 06-15-2007, 11:00 PM   #30
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do everything until you lose all your life points 8(.
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Old 06-15-2007, 11:46 PM   #31
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Wow, lots of bans for spam in CT getting thrown around.

I suggest y'all clean up your acts.

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The purpose of life? That's an easy one. It's to efficiently degrade the thermal gradient between the solar radiation and the cold of space.

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Old 06-15-2007, 11:54 PM   #32
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the point of life is whatever you make it out to be. you can live it up to make it suck, or make do your best to make every frickin day utterly rad! iz all up to the one who runs yer life..oh. wait yeah. thats YOU.
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Old 06-16-2007, 12:00 AM   #33
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i think the point of life is to see how much we can do with the time given to use
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Old 06-16-2007, 12:02 AM   #34
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We live to die.

Anything that happens in between is a bonus.
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Old 06-16-2007, 12:09 AM   #35
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The point of this life is to prepare for the next one through knowledge and experience.
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Old 06-16-2007, 12:22 AM   #36
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We live to die.

Anything that happens in between is a bonus.
If the purpose of life is to die, then why live in the first place? Non-life can theoretically exist infinitely, while life is always finite, right? so....necessitating life so that non-life can result as a purpose is like saying the purpose of a chair is to become a tree, even though it was already something that wasn't a chair (a tree) before and wouldn't need to be converted to a chair in the first place.
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Old 06-16-2007, 01:26 AM   #37
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The phrase "purpose of life" is a non-sequitor because in order for your life to have a purpose, there has to be some specific greater cause around which you are living, and I'm not prepared to accept that.

As Kilroy said, life is what you make it. Nothing more, nothing less.
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The phrase "purpose of life" is a non-sequitor because in order for your life to have a purpose, there has to be some specific greater cause around which you are living, and I'm not prepared to accept that.
I am VERY willing to accept the Second Law of Thermodynamics as the greater cause, and would be mystified as to how someone else wouldn't.

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How is that a greater cause that you were put here to serve? You coincidentally -follow- it simply by being a thing, but it has no active force to have put humans here for the purpose of following it.
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How is that a greater cause that you were put here to serve?
I exist because of its grace.

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If you want to be a reductionist about things, every action can be explained by the natural desire to destroy gradients. That is, when you try to explain every "active" force, the Second Law is the only ultimate end.

It may be a "passive" force, but it's the greatest force in all the universe (I hope we can agree on using a loose definition of the term "force" here).

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