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If you are judged based on your life at the moment of your death, what is asking god nicely to reconsider going to do for morale? if repenting on your deathbed actually worked, the world would fall apart.
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By the way, is Hayatewillown derailing your comment walls?
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Well I meant more if disengenuous repenting on your deathbed did anything.
That is the usual cop-out for such things, that you can just repent on your death-bed and the dopey all-forgiving God gives you a clean slate, huzzah! Without ever stopping to consider that if God exists as per the bible (And thus is all-knowing) you certainly can't -fool- him into thinking you've repented. |
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Off topic. How about we keep this in a PM?
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First off, the guys aren't even paying attention.
Second off, topics can drift for a while, but if the initial purpose is still being served, it eventually has to goe back to the initial purpose, which, by the way, was being served before you posted. Third off, since you seem to be such a man of God when you're crapping up our walls and you're posting here again, why don't you join our discussion? |
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Either she/he derailed your wall as well or you read mine.
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God is not immune to this logic just because a lot of people believe in him.
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I can state that your claim has no evidence and thus choose to not -believe- it, but I can't state with 100% certainty that it is wrong.
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These threads on religion really go no where. No one can argue for it because humans made religion and yet they want to argue something that goes beyond humanity without any evidence. On the other hand, the lack of evidence applies to any critics of religion as well. The answer really lies in a side of the argument that isn't so one-sided and perhaps the idea that one could honer that certain parts of religion are right, certain parts are wrong, all are right, or all are wrong. One can't trust religion 100% or mistrust religion 100% because neither have evidence. With any of the possibilities in mind, I always value a person having their rights of life, liberty, and property unless that person is trying to take someone else's life, liberty, or property without a justified cause (certain religions and their different treatment of others without any real justification). Now someone might ask me what if I just want to take someone's life, liberty, or property just for the sake of doing such an act without being justified. To me, this is considered a bad act because I use the simple logic that such an act is not the way I would want to be treated (with my life, liberty, or property taken away). If someone wants to be what I define as bad, be my guest. On top of my personal beliefs, I also believe that if you are good at being good or if you are good at being bad, a person chooses what path better suits them in life (what ever path a person believes would give them more life, liberty, and property [this doesn't mean that it would Actually happen]). If I was to come across a person who was willingly able to accept that they are bad and wanted to take my liberty for no reason, I value an eye for an eye, but only if it makes me get my life, liberty, or property back. There is no reason to seek vengeance if vengeance doesn't give you anything in return to get back to where you first were. For example, what's the use of killing someone who killed your family member when you obviously know that the person who died won't come back? Sure you would be even in the fact that you both have family members lost, but you are beneath where you started. If this bad person started this, he should be lower than you in status. Not on the same level of life, liberty, and property. Let's say that this bad guy was trying to also kill someone else, but I beat him up and save that someone else. I would have saved a person and gotten the bad guy imprisoned. The very thought that I saved a person (which would make me regret losing a family member less) and that getting the bad guy imprisoned (to stop him from ever killing during the time he is imprisoned) would make me feel above this bad guy (in this case, some would probably not feel even with the bad guy since you lost a loved one). I would say that a good guy or bad guy would only be satisfied with an unproportional share of life, liberty, and property. A good person would want an unproportional share of life, liberty, and property to stop the bad person from doing something bad again. On the other hand, the bad person would want the unproportional share of life, liberty, and property because he/she wants to lower everyone else's life, liberty, and property to be superior.
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The paragraph on the first post in summation:
God exists because he does. Need more proof than that. |
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what makes me so angry about religion is people just blindly following without even remotely questioning whats going on or giving an attempt to learn.
religion has always been a way to control people by fear. "hey. um. im the king. and your GOD told me that you guys all have to be roman catholic. or whatever. and if you dont, youll be forever damned in the eternal fires of hell!!!! i totally swear!" thats how rulers have been for a long time. hey look at our president for one example! (dont mean to get into that subject) if your gonna be religious, at least understand where youre coming from and dont sound like an ignorant, mentally blind, asshole. |
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Dear Master_of_the_faster: You asked me a while ago what I thought of your argument style, and I told you that you needed to really work on your formatting.
Seriously man, -nobody is going to read- a gigantic block of text with random punctuation, no seperation by concept and no attempt at formatting in a useful way, especially when your mode of speech is so tangential and random. You have enough good ideas that seeing you fall victim to tl;dr isn't something to be encouraged. Thanks, Your local concerned Devonin. |
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Seriously, they should just have you stand on the border of Mexico and type. No one could get by.
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Do you honestly have any idea how ignorant you sound by saying that? Do you understand what hypocrisy is? --Guido http://andy.mikee385.com |
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ITT- We group every religious/anti-theist person into groups because attacking the members of a school of ideology is a lot easier than actually attacking the ideas, beliefs and facts that both sides have to present.
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lmao. I kinda think god exists, but I have to since I go to catholic school......
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Perhaps I need to stop posting in a giant block of text as Devonin politely asked me to, but I would encourage that you not mock me and instead read what I have to say. Did you even bother to see what I wrote about?
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