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Old 07-7-2007, 06:04 PM   #241
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That's stupid though. That means, I could make up anything invisible or anything that is just far away from you.. and you can't say it's not real.
Well I can't say it is real either. Why would I care anyways? Why would I care if an invisible pink unicorn is next to me? Why should I care?

Also, how could an invisible Unicorn be Pink?

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Old 07-7-2007, 06:06 PM   #242
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...Wtf?

This isn't about caring this is about how real human's ideas can be.

I mean, we do NOT live in a universe where "anything is possible".. there are elements and atoms and certain "laws" and the atoms work in certain ways and everything.
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Old 07-7-2007, 06:14 PM   #243
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Laws can be false.
There can be more elements, an element is told apart from others mainly by the number of neutrons and electrons it has. Who says there can't be an element with one Google electrons?
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Old 07-7-2007, 06:16 PM   #244
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Okay and yeah there are elements humans haven't 'discovered' but how can there be a living organism made out of nothing? Or "invisible atoms"? Like wtf?
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Old 07-7-2007, 06:19 PM   #245
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The senses can be deceived. Reflections, bouncing sound waves, black holes, damaged nerve endings, ear infections, brain malfunction.
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Old 07-7-2007, 06:20 PM   #246
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...i have no idea what your point is
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Old 07-7-2007, 06:25 PM   #247
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What if people learn to convert solar waves into a new form of energy in a matter that makes something invisible. Some scientists think it's possible to use plasma to make something invisible.

Plus, what do you think magicians do?
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Old 07-7-2007, 06:26 PM   #248
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So you're saying God is visible but it's an illusion to our "senses" that we can't see him? What? :S
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Old 07-7-2007, 06:28 PM   #249
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Okay and yeah there are elements humans haven't 'discovered' but how can there be a living organism made out of nothing? Or "invisible atoms"? Like wtf?
This is what I was talking about, not god.
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Old 07-7-2007, 06:31 PM   #250
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Okay well I'm talking about God.. how is his existence possible?
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Old 07-7-2007, 06:34 PM   #251
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I never said he existed, I can't say he exists, but I can't say he doesn't either.
Did you read every bit of information discovered by the human-race? Because if you want to make a claim against god, you better get started.

Funny The Simpson's Quote:
Homer "Oh hey Ned, I was just getting ready for church today when I accidentally discovered there's no god."
Hands Ned Paper, Ned reads Paper,
Ned "Well, we can't let this little doozey get out."
Ned burns paper.

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Old 07-7-2007, 06:38 PM   #252
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lol, i don't need anything to make a claim against 'god' or whatever else i want.
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Old 07-7-2007, 06:38 PM   #253
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Laws can be false.
There can be more elements, an element is told apart from others mainly by the number of neutrons and electrons it has. Who says there can't be an element with one Google electrons?
This is COMPLETELY false. Elements are differentiated by the number of protons they have. Not neutrons, not electrons. Look here if you don't believe me:

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A chemical element, or element for short, is a type of atom that is defined by its atomic number; that is, by the number of protons in its nucleus
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Old 07-7-2007, 06:39 PM   #254
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Oh sorry, I'm rusty on chemistry. (I only learned it in middle school so far, didn't learn much)

Oh yeah, because electrons can be taken and given between other atoms since they are orbiting the atom! That's how people make sparks and electricity and stuff. But I thought the number of Neutrons was equal to the number of protons. Or wait I thought Neutrons were equal to electrons. Or do the Neutrons determine the number of electrons an atoms tries to have.
And If a law is false, it isn't really a law. But people theorizing the laws can be wrong.

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Old 07-14-2007, 05:18 PM   #255
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OK, both 9 ki kid and OuterSpace:

If y'all would read most of the thread before posting, we've all established that belief in God or the denial of his presence is a matter of faith, not fact. I give credit to 9 ki to trying to clarify.
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Old 07-14-2007, 06:06 PM   #256
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Plus, what do you think magicians do?
Magician (noun): A stage performer who prays on gullible people and cons them out of their money by using elaborate props to trick them into thinking that the magician can somehow control the laws of physics.

Magic isn't real. If it were real, why would people only use it to entertain people?

There are thousands of different religions out there. Likewise, there are millions of Gods. In every culture you find stories similar to those found in the Bible. Take a look at how man progressed through time, and who was the popular "God" at the time.

Primitive man worshiped nature (planets, animals, rocks, rain, water, and most importantly, the sun) because his understanding of the natural world was non-existent. As man's knowledge about the natural world grew, he no longer needed mystical figures to explain the natural phenomenon he saw daily. But there was still a lot that could not explain, which is why multiple Gods were eventually replaced with one all seeing, invisible God along with a cast and crew of invisible angels and demons accompanied by extreme prejudice towards outsiders.

Modern man, with his faith in science, has proven that the concept of God, as we know it, cannot exist in our Universe. God might exist, but it won't be any of the Gods from the world's theistic religions.

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Old 07-14-2007, 08:42 PM   #257
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This is why I go with science. Personally, I think ignoring science and logical thinking is like ignoring what is most likely true.
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Old 07-14-2007, 11:05 PM   #258
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I think that about the only problem with religion is the fact that the devout forget that it's a matter of faith and nothing more.
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Old 07-14-2007, 11:28 PM   #259
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Old 07-15-2007, 12:04 AM   #260
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This is why I go with science. Personally, I think ignoring science and logical thinking is like ignoring what is ABSOLUTELY, DEFINITELY true.
Fix'd, and this pretty much sums up my opinion.

Also, it is prey, not pray
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