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Old 06-12-2007, 12:48 PM   #81
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We aren't discussing whether or not they exist, or even why they exist, so much as whether they should be -allowed- to exist, given that they assume a racism that is legally non-existant, and are in many ways fomenting racism on the part of blacks against whites.
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Old 06-13-2007, 03:05 AM   #82
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First of all, I think it is important to eliminate the biological concept of race.

Caucasians, Blacks, Latin Americans, Asians, and Native Americans are not subspecies. We are all the same species, we just have slightly different genetic traits, similar to how a person's height depends on their genes (assuming they receive proper nutrition). Tall people tend to have tall children.

However, race does exist culturally. And it is these cultural differences that should be acknowledged, and understood.
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Old 06-13-2007, 10:49 AM   #83
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Aside from culture and customs (some that may be because of what type of area or climate they live in, language, religion, etc.), I would agree that all biological concepts of race are bogus. Even if a statement about one's race is true, the only reason a person would think about saying such a thing is not to point out the fact, but simply to be discriminating against others (unless it's a statistic used for research without trying to discriminate). Even still, a statement about one's race would most likely not hold true for every single person of that group and would make it a bad steriotype. I mean think about how our world will be in the future. If the whole idea of Pangea is true, how would the human race (if it survives until then) be treating each other if every singly country was connected into one super continent like Pangea? We should be able to adjust our society to think more like one unified continent without race issues even before such an instance would occur if it did.

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Old 06-14-2007, 01:34 PM   #84
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First of all, I think it is important to eliminate the biological concept of race.

Caucasians, Blacks, Latin Americans, Asians, and Native Americans are not subspecies. We are all the same species, we just have slightly different genetic traits, similar to how a person's height depends on their genes (assuming they receive proper nutrition). Tall people tend to have tall children.

However, race does exist culturally. And it is these cultural differences that should be acknowledged, and understood.
I've always maintained that the first aliens to visit Earth are going to have some difficulty understanding how we could possibly have concepts of race seperating peoples who are provably, undeniably one race. How unenlightened must that look to outside observers, that we can -prove- that we are all one race, and insist on categorising people "racially" as though we are somehow different species.

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Even still, a statement about one's race would most likely not hold true for every single person of that group and would make it a bad steriotype.
All generalisations are false.
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Old 06-14-2007, 01:42 PM   #85
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All generalisations are false.
I love that quote for its irony.

And as far as I'm concerned, I don't think anybody really thinks of humans being of different "races" (as in species). The term is just used to enumerate perceived or made-up differences between people with different biological traits, most often skin color.

If another term had been used from the start to describe those differences, it would still be used today, I think. It's just that "race" became the standard, so it's the word people use.
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Old 06-19-2007, 08:01 AM   #86
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*Sighs* That's like saying why United States is so-called 'the greatest country' yet we still have people who are poor, uneducated, and etc. In my case you is right, black people are not the only ones in poverty. There are hispanics (spell check please),whites, asians, and other groups. The reason why 'black people' are getting the help we need ((yes I'm black)) is because of our disperation (spell check please) and frequent begging that only get us programs or systems that help us out. To me I only see people as people, if you put away the culture, hertiage, race, and other nationalities. You only have earth people that live together and try to help each other out.

Also I'm not going to stop there. Let's look back on how White People treated the black people back in slavery before the Civil Rights Movement, that's when we didn't have no education nor the ability to read unless we tried to risk ourselves getting killed by the Master. Since then, black only have a poverty mindset because of the way we were treated. Then that's when Abraham Lincoln saw the destruction and depression that black people were going through and decided to end it. Only for him to be shot because of the movement he was trying to begin.

In short, black people were always in poverty because of slavery. We didn't choose to be idiots but then again when we try to be smart and enter into the real world, people with superiority tries to kill and crush them. I alone is the next victim but yet I won't give up too easily.

If you really start to think about it, tell the president to cut off all the section 8 and Food Stamp programs so the poverty can start waking up from the long 'nap' and start trying to live better or end up homeless.
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Old 06-19-2007, 09:06 AM   #87
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Yet this doesn't end the plot...

Before racism or slavery ever happened. Let's go back to when Catholics and Christians were debated back in England. To my knowledge, critism are welcome.

In England or is it Britain? Anyways, there was a strong debate over Catholics and Christians. The reason is that because people believed that the Church have too much power over the land and the King and Queen usually gain taxes from the offerings. This made the catholic church very much in power, the people who didn't like this 'method' decided to fight back. They couldn't fight back with bronzes because that's dealing with the King's and Queen's authority so they decided to fight with brains. They used the Bible as a guide thus creating the justice that not only brings clarity to the people but also challenges the church's power over their faith. This made the catholics almost powerless due to amount of people adapting the new faith. This faith enraged the King and wanted the new 'extremist' to be killed on the spot. That's why the extremist have to move into America so they can practice their faith.

This whole statement I typed might not be true but you do see that the concept of rebellion began when power tried to control everything. This relates to our society but into little branches. Racist people are like the catholics, they believe that they are superior to everyone else and look down upon the people. ((There's so much more to this topic)) While unracist people are like Christians, they don't believe someone is that powerful yet order should exist in order to control and maintain civilization.

This topic can become very broad because it's not only about the education, welfare, and other minor problems. It's about our understanding, we all think different yet compromising with one another makes the conversation more in-sync. We all have to start thinking more about what's the reason why racism exist and how can we prevent this solitude of ignorance from growing. Also I believe M-O-N-E-Y plays an important role in this discussion.
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Old 06-19-2007, 06:06 PM   #88
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In England or is it Britain? Anyways, there was a strong debate over Catholics and Christians. The reason is that because people believed that the Church have too much power over the land and the King and Queen usually gain taxes from the offerings. This made the catholic church very much in power, the people who didn't like this 'method' decided to fight back. They couldn't fight back with bronzes because that's dealing with the King's and Queen's authority so they decided to fight with brains. They used the Bible as a guide thus creating the justice that not only brings clarity to the people but also challenges the church's power over their faith. This made the catholics almost powerless due to amount of people adapting the new faith. This faith enraged the King and wanted the new 'extremist' to be killed on the spot. That's why the extremist have to move into America so they can practice their faith.
I'm sorry, what?

First of all, I hardly understood your story. Secondly, are you honestly suggesting that this is how America was colonized? If not, when was there a mass exodus of Catholics from Britain to America? Thirdly, where did you GET this information?

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They used the Bible as a guide thus creating the justice that not only brings clarity to the people but also challenges the church's power over their faith.
Uh...what? Yes, people used a Catholic book against the Catholic church to undermine its power. Nevermind the fact that scripture is 100% in accordance with church and vice versa, yeah, they totally took down the Church.

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Racist people are like the catholics, they believe that they are superior to everyone else and look down upon the people.
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Do tell. No, really, I need a good laugh.

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While unracist people are like Christians
Wait, whoa. Why the differentiation? Catholics are Christians.

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, they don't believe someone is that powerful yet order should exist in order to control and maintain civilization.
Neither do Catholics.

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Old 06-19-2007, 08:50 PM   #89
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Sorry Guido, catholics are evil. This is a fact.
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:19 PM   #90
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Sorry Guido, catholics are evil. This is a fact.
Yeah, all that obsessing over cats...those cat-holics are a real problem.
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:01 AM   #91
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I guess I have to back up what I'm really saying. When I meant to say besides my horrid explanation, is that we all look at the issues very differently from each other! First the topic was mainly about why do blacks get all the special benefits because of this and that but a poor white person doesn't reap from those benefits because of his so-called 'intelligence'. I can't answer that completely because I will get criticize from my own explanation like that British and England crap which to me didn't made any sense and I don't know why I typed it. ((Also I'm changing that topic I typed earlier because when I reread it, it doesn't make sense one bit. It's all like ranting about something else))

Okay, normally I see that injustice is all around us. I don't understand why black people who wants section 8 to take care of them and also being on welfare just because of their little crisis or complaints. To me this shows pampering, I don't know about what you think but as a black person, I can really kick myself each time I see a black person wearing a thick gold chain and not trying to invest. We are after all, poverty minded people. So we don't know any better and when something bad happened to us, we usually blame it on society or the white man. This reason why we are so poverty minded is because no one teaches us about prosperity. Even so, we are just looking at the neighborhood around us and just doing us. We don't care about anybody but us so this lack of caring also causes poverty. Poverty is everywhere and I don't know why United States is claimed to be the best country in the world because of our international trade with other countries ((correct me if I'm wrong about this statement)).

To me it's all about survival, almost anybody can kill someone just to gain that extra benefit to live longer and become richer. None of you live in New York or maybe some but if you see most of the BS around Brooklyn, Bronx. Those two are part of New York also yet it doesn't look any like Manhattan nor Queens. Those two boroughs mostly thinking about how to survive and how to hustle for more money without being killed. Usually its peaceful because no one isn't starting anything but mostly fights and murders happens right here! No one can even afford to live in New York unless you living inside the Projects. Others live right in New Jersey because its much cheaper over there. ((I can rant on and on about little problems but that's not going to change anything over time! Also I know my grammar sucks a lot but that doesn't to mean to ridicule me about it also!!))

To me what the United States should do is to offer programs to all homeless people that wants to get their life back together, so the homeless have a better chance of thriving out from the ghettos and become successful towards the near future. Second, the government should start making laws to businesses and other companies to allow anyone, even a homeless person to start working and should not be ridicule for their intelligence, race, nor gender. Third, the government giving out welfare and section 8 to people that needs it should end that account within five years. After those five years, the section 8 and welfare is cut off from that person. They have enough time to get their life together and should not waste that moment one bit.

These little solutions aren't going to improve by itself within a short time. Yet at least a few homeless people won't be on the streets as much. Also, the section 8 and welfare won't be hogged by people anymore, sooner or later due to the first two parts will make people have better chances of succeeding more and having a chance to get their life back on track.

This after all America, so why not give those choices a chance... Also if you find any fault in my ill-grammar sentences. Let me know right away.
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Old 06-21-2007, 03:22 PM   #92
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I notice plenty of oppression against white males. There are tons of scholarships for minorities and minorities only (even though whites are nearly the minority now). Just because I'm white doesn't mean I have money growing on a tree in my front yard for college funds.

But if there's any white protest for equal treatment, it's called racist towards black people. America favors minorities so much it's ridiculous.
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Third, the government giving out welfare and section 8 to people that needs it should end that account within five years. After those five years, the section 8 and welfare is cut off from that person. They have enough time to get their life together and should not waste that moment one bit.
Well said, and excellent idea.
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