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A real musician is a person who play's music just for the sake of music, not for money or fame, just so they can hear the sound. Or a musician who play's music to get real messages through, like an exact opposite of 50 cent (no disses, just example)who doesn't talk about sex, drugs and being a gangsta' but instead about how corrupt politic's is, how unfair being black can be, or how the gap between rich white kids (Sorry but it's mostly them..) and poverty ridden asians and african's is growing. So to me, a real musician is someone who is not afraid to sing what they feel, instead of something that sell's.
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lmao, try playing the cello you donk
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Two of the best drummers in the world are John Bonham from Led Zeppelin and Chirs Adler from Lamb of God. QUOTE] You forgot *forgets name* from Rush. |
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Neil Peart. And yes, he's incredible, but I think any discussion of drummers is incomplete without Gene Krupa (Who I feel is arguably the greatest drummer who has ever existed)
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Very true.
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The members of Stomp - original and new - are incredible drummers, regardless of the fact that they're using every day items to make music.
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IMO drummers are musicians... but only if they're good enough. Just playing an instrument doesn't qualify you as a musician. You have to be dedicated and have some ability to actually be considered a musician. Anyone can sit down at a drum and bang away, but it takes time and effort to actually be able to play the drums. That being said, a lot of people who claim they "play" the drums don't really.
P.S. Harp is harder than drumz and other muzical inztrumentz |
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To me, a musician is a person who can recieve any type of fame from others besides yourself and those people who would say that you are a good musician and lie. Basically, if you can convince a random person who doesn't know you at all or even someone who dislikes you to love your music, I would say that you are good enough to atleast be a musician. Of course, that is to just become a musician, but that doesn't mean that you are exactly a great musician or one of the best musicians unless you raise in ranks with your abilities and could convince many large audiences of people that you are talented. Money doesn't exactly make you a musician, but if you get incredibly rich from music, it may be a sign that lots of people really think you're talented and money drives musicians to have the want/need to become even better.
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I think that drummers would have a harder time being accepted as musicians here only because they are rarely seen outside their role as the supporter, or tempo-setter (roles I know from experience are highly valuable) and capable of standing alone. If you were to travel to other countries where drummers are more often seen playing alone, then you would probably have a hard time finding someone who DIDN'T think they were musicians. Also, I believe drums were some of the earliest instruments to be played, but I could be wrong. |
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most guitar players suck major ass
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I think it all depends on preference, feeling, and emotion.
I mean, you can express yourself if you are a guitarist, or if you prefer to play an classical instrument, like me Some people may like guitars over violins. There isn't really a section of "real" musicians; anyone who plays an instrument and expresses themselves can be considered a "real musician," unless you're one of those people who plays random music and has no feeling in the notes your play, or are just randomly playing stuff for fame. XD |
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On a side note, I am in a military education program, so I have heard military drumming quite extensively. Also, I was regrettably forced to endure the torture that is African drumming by a teacher of mine, who was very zealous about African culture and heritage. The entire month of February was spent listening to African music, reading African stories, and studying African authors. I despised the music; it was horrible. But honestly, would you really want to listen to military drumming or African drumming in your free time? Would you have those on your iPod? Is that music you would want to listen to over other types of music equally available? The vast majority of people would say no. Thus, the vast majority is less likely to consider a drummer a musician (elaborated below). Also, there was never a point in American history where drums by themselves were enjoyed by the masses. Folk and classical music gave way to big band, swing, etc. When I say people are less likely to consider a drummer a musician, I mean that if you ask a person "Which of the following fits your definition of "musician" better? Guitarist or drummer?" they will say a guitarist. The guitarist then becomes the standard, and since a drummer is "less" than a guitarist (in terms of the person's definition), they do not as readily qualify for the title "musician." However, people like to listen to music that only has one, say, guitar. If you turn on the radio to a station that plays a variety of music, you'll often hear at least one song that's sung by one person and an acoustic guitar. Nothing else. This is why guitarists are more widely accepted as musicians than drummers; drums can't create an appealing type of music by themselves. This is because their pitch variety is severely limited compared to other instruments. The piano has all its keys and the foot pedals, string instruments have a nearly infinite number of pitches (due to the way pitch change on string instruments works), instruments like the flute have many variable pitches based on the position(s) of the fingers, etc. But the drums are limited, pitch-wise, to each individual drum and the cymbals available. The patterns and combinations created with them allow for great diversity, but the number of actual pitches is severely limited when compared to other mainstream instruments. While it can create a lot of combinations of pitches, the other instruments can create a lot MORE pitches, allowing for a more diverse melody. With the drums, rhythm is all you really have: each individual drum or cymbal being hit at a certain point. Last edited by Relambrien; 06-25-2007 at 02:43 AM.. |
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Of course drummers are musicians. Almost ALL music has drums, why? Because they really do add that much to the music. It's an instrument like any other and if you use it to create music you are of course a musician.
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Of course Drummers are musicians! We can only call someone a musician when he or she create music. Example: I'm a musician 'cause I work with some stream lines and a lot of others things to make Techno song. You don't have to play an instrument to be a musician. By the way, I've once heard a song that the only instrument in it was the Drum.
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Musician : a composer, conductor, or performer of music
If you consider a drum solo music, then he is considered a musician. This is a point of view argument and therefore should not be in critical thinking seeing as that many opinions are biased.
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a good musician? Claudio Sanchez. <3. |
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