Old 05-25-2007, 03:04 PM   #41
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Its still an issue to this day just like the Middle East has been. Haven't you ever heard of the 1000 year war? I am sure you have so it should be no surprise to you that a country is trying to help stop the madness.
"Helping" to stop an issue to which you have contributed in no small way is called 'cleaning up your own mess' not 'being some international hero'


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Kind of how there was no proof of WMDs when they "searched" for them but back in the late 90s there was proof of them? Iraq was told to get rid of the WMDs in early 2001 a second and final warning and late 2002 guess what happened, they let the UN inspectors to go there and found nothing. Oh wow thats shocking, if you can tell me now that there is no way you could hide a WMD in 2 years than you are not intelligent.
Oh wow...do you not see what you just said? Let's go through this step by step:
1/ Iraq "has" WMDs
2/ Iraq is told "Get rid of your WMDs"
3/ After a time, inspectors look around and find no WMDs

You know...I think it is -just- as likely that maybe -they listened to what the UN told them- I love how absolutely nobody in the United States seems willing to admit the possibility that the actual reason the inspectors didn't find anything is because Iraq COMPLIED WITH THE UN.

Iraq doesn't have the luxury of being the world's greatest superpower, capable of ignoring anything that is done to it by the international community. The US can point and laugh at the UN because, honestly, what are they going to do about it? But Iraq would be -crushed- by trade embargos, it has almost no chance of standing up on its own without the abilty to trade its oil reserves for needed supplies. Is it really that crazy to suppose that they actually just did what they were told?

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For proof of the connection between the too it is between Iraqi and Iran governments. It has never been proved to be official evidence but it doesn't mean it couldn't have been or still be true. I know it must sound like a weak arguement but the possibility at this point is enough to be looked under.
Last I heard, the "Axis of Evil" was widely regarded by non-americans to be a very funny joke. Historically Iraq and Iran -HATE- each other. If either of them thought they could get away with it, the other one would have been invaded solidly ages ago. The Iranians have always percieved Iraq as a pathetic western-wannabe, trying to copy American as much as possible while still claiming to hate the western world. Iraq has historically been of the opinion that Iran is too stuck in the past, unwilling to move forward in the ways needed to being the Middle East into the glory that they most of them feel they deserve.

Further: Even -If- Iraq and Iran were somehow connected...so? Last I checked, the attacks were blamed on "Al Qaeda" which uh...isn't Iran and certainly isn't Iraq.


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Options? What options, that was the plan from the get go when invaded iraq. The riddance of the WMDs and with Iraq and its politically correct government would help keep it that way.

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There was never a "true" government there to over throw, we went in there to establish one but as you can see its not as easy as it was said on national tv. Heres were being a country that has no threat on a daily basis vs a country that is filled with crime, mass murdering, threats from nuclear weapons get you, we will always have a group that hates america. Always and theres nothing I can do about it. Some of the "missions" from the al-Qaeda is to get rid of non muslim countries and guess what we are the biggest.
Well, for one, Yes there was a true government, just one that you didn't like, and even if you grant that it was one that a lot of the people there didn't like, it was a government and it governed. For two: What gives you the right to decide to go in and establish one? For three: plenty of countries, including America have groups that hate America, going to invade all of them? Lastly: Once again, Al-Qaeda is not Iraq, they are not the same and you have no business claiming one is the other.
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"Helping" to stop an issue to which you have contributed in no small way is called 'cleaning up your own mess' not 'being some international hero'
Then instead of argue about having a quick pullout, let the Americans fix the problem.

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Oh wow...do you not see what you just said? Let's go through this step by step:
1/ Iraq "has" WMDs
2/ Iraq is told "Get rid of your WMDs"
3/ After a time, inspectors look around and find no WMDs

You know...I think it is -just- as likely that maybe -they listened to what the UN told them- I love how absolutely nobody in the United States seems willing to admit the possibility that the actual reason the inspectors didn't find anything is because Iraq COMPLIED WITH THE UN.

Iraq doesn't have the luxury of being the world's greatest superpower, capable of ignoring anything that is done to it by the international community. The US can point and laugh at the UN because, honestly, what are they going to do about it? But Iraq would be -crushed- by trade embargos, it has almost no chance of standing up on its own without the abilty to trade its oil reserves for needed supplies. Is it really that crazy to suppose that they actually just did what they were told?
Yes it is crazy because if someone got away with it once they are most likly going to do it again.

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Last I heard, the "Axis of Evil" was widely regarded by non-americans to be a very funny joke. Historically Iraq and Iran -HATE- each other. If either of them thought they could get away with it, the other one would have been invaded solidly ages ago. The Iranians have always percieved Iraq as a pathetic western-wannabe, trying to copy American as much as possible while still claiming to hate the western world. Iraq has historically been of the opinion that Iran is too stuck in the past, unwilling to move forward in the ways needed to being the Middle East into the glory that they most of them feel they deserve.

Further: Even -If- Iraq and Iran were somehow connected...so? Last I checked, the attacks were blamed on "Al Qaeda" which uh...isn't Iran and certainly isn't Iraq.
So your saying there is no al-Qaeda influence in Iraq? Whens the last time you were there fighting againt infidels?



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Well, for one, Yes there was a true government, just one that you didn't like, and even if you grant that it was one that a lot of the people there didn't like, it was a government and it governed. For two: What gives you the right to decide to go in and establish one? For three: plenty of countries, including America have groups that hate America, going to invade all of them? Lastly: Once again, Al-Qaeda is not Iraq, they are not the same and you have no business claiming one is the other.
Its the same right as trying to keep the world from becoming a giant free for all nuclear winter.

If the group becomes a big enough problem that invasion is given thought then yes they will most likly be taken care of. Remember congress declares war not the president.

If it wasn't for America's military and direct actions this world would not be the same and possibly would not exist.
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President Bush may be the smartest president in the US history... and I am not kidding...
Explain please.

Back up your statements in CT.
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Do you seriously think that he is THAT dumb?? Bush sure has all of America fooled thinking that he is nothing but a dumbass. Do you seriously think that Bush will tell the truth to the public? If the truth made it out to the public, enemies of the states would surely figure out a way to get us. Thats why his a brilliant actor. It is actually brilliant how we got into Iraq. We only had one purpose in Iraq and that is to drag Iran into a war they do not want to fight. It was suggested that 500,000 troops should be sent into Iraq to accompolish all the missions in Iraq, and if he did this war would've been nothing. President Bush sent only 150,000. Thanks to this, the US soldiers in Iraq are still struggling. This is done because he wants Iran to think that he is indeed incompetent. The only reason why we are in Iraq is because we want the sunnis and the shias cause mass genocide against each other, and it will inevitebaly drag Iran and other surrounding muslim nations such as Saudi Arabia into a war. Iran will expend its resources to this war, and this will save the US the time for the "big one" against China. One can argue that the Camp David Accords was the begenning of World War III.
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Look at how much money the guy has spent. Compare the condition of our country before he spent the money, to after he spent all of those resources.

I think I've made my point.

http://www.cato.org/dailys/07-31-03.html

We are capitalist people. It all boils down to money, and he has been wasting a whole lot of it. Casualties of the Iraq War are insignificant, as are the casualties of 9/11. Obesity and Tobacco kill about 200 times as many people on a yearly basis. The real tragedy is the potential the resources that he has squandered once had.

Instead of the Iraq War and Afghanistan and Homeland Security we could have:

Public Healthcare
Free College
Alternative Energy
Potential Cures to Life threatening Illnesses
Or just a very nice tax break

Either way, spending money to combat terrorists is simply ineffective. 9/11 was nothing more than a lucky shot. It's not worth the spending it takes to defend against it, plain and simple. I think Bush has been an awful president because he cannot manage resources. We need a president with a PhD in economics....
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^^^We are not really capitalistic.....because of the WTO....the WTO is actually quite communist....
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No.

I hate what he's been doing.
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Look at how much money the guy has spent. Compare the condition of our country before he spent the money, to after he spent all of those resources.

I think I've made my point.

http://www.cato.org/dailys/07-31-03.html

We are capitalist people. It all boils down to money, and he has been wasting a whole lot of it. Casualties of the Iraq War are insignificant, as are the casualties of 9/11. Obesity and Tobacco kill about 200 times as many people on a yearly basis. The real tragedy is the potential the resources that he has squandered once had.

Instead of the Iraq War and Afghanistan and Homeland Security we could have:

Public Healthcare
Free College
Alternative Energy
Potential Cures to Life threatening Illnesses
Or just a very nice tax break

Either way, spending money to combat terrorists is simply ineffective. 9/11 was nothing more than a lucky shot. It's not worth the spending it takes to defend against it, plain and simple. I think Bush has been an awful president because he cannot manage resources. We need a president with a PhD in economics....
Ohh Great Ideas

Public Healthcare- Would not work........look how well canadas health care is.

Free college- GREAT Lets just give anyone a peice of paper now so we can throw it in the face of the people that worked hard to get that peice of paper.

Alternative Energy- Wait.........How does President Bush cause a business to not create a alternative energy? Is he holding them down by sitting on them? There have been many car manufactuers trying to make these types of things but its proving to be harder than it sounds.

Potential Cures- again the same response, How is Bush making them not be able to create such things? Just because he spends $ to make sure our troops have the best feild armor and armored Humvees doesn't mean that the medicine scientist can't create new ways of treating people.

Tax Break- lol.........thats all I am going to say about that.

Also instead of homeland security we could have:

None........isn't that what your trying to say? I can't wait to hear your defense program in the upcoming elections.

You don't relise that President Clinton reduced the size of the American Military by cutting down its $. Do you know what happened? People lost their jobs and new recruitments were given less for a sign up bonus. Also we had less troops with proper armor and equipment. Is that something you want to be proud of? Thats your own version of genocide to the american military just because you don't want to give an extra $50 a month to serve your country and is too scared of actually going over there to fight.
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Money doesn't particularly make people think harder, nor is Bush affiliated in almost any way to the development of medical matters and alternative energy.

Plus, as pessimistic as it sounds, there's really very little hope for alternative energy for a long time to come minus wind, solar and nuclear power.
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Free college- GREAT Lets just give anyone a peice of paper now so we can throw it in the face of the people that worked hard to get that peice of paper.
That doesn't even make sense. Free college would only make that "piece of paper" more valuable because money would no longer be an avenue to obtain it. Now, only academic achievements and hard work could lead to getting a decent degree since socioeconomic standing would have no impact.

Our military hasn't defended us since World War II. It is proving to be an archaic government institution that is costing much more than it is paying back. I personally think we should leave defense to the private sector, which could take care of it more efficiently and with less Bureaucracy. The only reason it remains is because we are a culture of fear. The "Terrorists" hate each other just as much as they hate America and if we leave the middle east alone they will duke it out amongst themselves.

9/11 can be traced back to us directly supporting terrorist groups to fight the Russians so if we simply cut of military we would cut of much of the cause for such attacks. This was all a result of fear to, but fear of communism. Our fear of communism has now become a fear of terrorism. Both are completely irrational.
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That doesn't even make sense. Free college would only make that "piece of paper" more valuable because money would no longer be an avenue to obtain it. Now, only academic achievements and hard work could lead to getting a decent degree since socioeconomic standing would have no impact.

Our military hasn't defended us since World War II. It is proving to be an archaic government institution that is costing much more than it is paying back. I personally think we should leave defense to the private sector, which could take care of it more efficiently and with less Bureaucracy. The only reason it remains is because we are a culture of fear. The "Terrorists" hate each other just as much as they hate America and if we leave the middle east alone they will duke it out amongst themselves.

9/11 can be traced back to us directly supporting terrorist groups to fight the Russians so if we simply cut of military we would cut of much of the cause for such attacks. This was all a result of fear to, but fear of communism. Our fear of communism has now become a fear of terrorism. Both are completely irrational.
Wow you are totally oblivous if you think with out a military we would be "safer". I am guessing you support Obama and Hillary too don't you?

Yeh lets "trace" a mass suicidal attack on american soil to the Russians. Thats logical...............

Its funny that you think so simple that if we don't have a fear or present a fear in another country that we will be left alone. But thats probably what you want and then we can all dance in the streets with our Toyota Prius and save the ecosystem. Until we get invaded by another country but guess what you banned all the military and weapons so uh oh looks like we loose. You know what I am just going to shoot myself now because of the fact there might be a person out there that thinks like you.

BLAME BUSH HE MAKES KIDS KILL EACH OTHER AND TERROISTS WANT TO KILL AMERICANS!

That sounds like something you would have tattooed on your lower back.
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I want to make out with the big GWB. Stick my tongue right in his ear and swirl it about his ear lobes. Tease him a litt- ugh, I kind of vomited in my mouth just now.
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I want to make out with the big GWB. Stick my tongue right in his ear and swirl it about his ear lobes. Tease him a litt- ugh, I kind of vomited in my mouth just now.
Yeah, I'm out too. The sheer volume of ignorance, fear-mongering and drawing of conclusions that have -no- bearing whatsoever on the evidence presented to back up those conclusions have made this completely into a chit-chat forum sort of topic. There's virtually no critical thinking going on in here at all.
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Look at how much money the guy has spent. Compare the condition of our country before he spent the money, to after he spent all of those resources.

I think I've made my point.
According to my mother, our national debt is currently in the trillions. I'm not blaming it completely on Bush, but he is indeed throwing a lot of money out there.
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Wow you are totally oblivous if you think with out a military we would be "safer". I am guessing you support Obama and Hillary too don't you?

Yeh lets "trace" a mass suicidal attack on american soil to the Russians. Thats logical...............

Its funny that you think so simple that if we don't have a fear or present a fear in another country that we will be left alone. But thats probably what you want and then we can all dance in the streets with our Toyota Prius and save the ecosystem. Until we get invaded by another country but guess what you banned all the military and weapons so uh oh looks like we loose. You know what I am just going to shoot myself now because of the fact there might be a person out there that thinks like you.

BLAME BUSH HE MAKES KIDS KILL EACH OTHER AND TERROISTS WANT TO KILL AMERICANS!

That sounds like something you would have tattooed on your lower back.
You are possibly one of the most irrationally fearful people on this forum. No one is going to invade us. The terrorists successfully navigated a plane into a building, this doesn't mean they have any actual war making capabilities. They used our military training and our planes to get the job done. They really don't have anything in terms of military standing. If we simply pull out and stop delving into middle eastern affairs, age-old hatreds will kick in and they will resume killing each other.

The military is meant to defend, not attack. The only purposes I see it serving at this point is to help during natural disasters or impose quarantines during plagues.
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I, personally, agree with the political cartoons and various other media that Bush is, simply, an idiot. We are in Iraq for no reason now. He frustrates me to no end... He is one of the worst Presidents ever. In my opinion, he is far from a Reagan.
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You are possibly one of the most irrationally fearful people on this forum. No one is going to invade us. The terrorists successfully navigated a plane into a building, this doesn't mean they have any actual war making capabilities. They used our military training and our planes to get the job done. They really don't have anything in terms of military standing. If we simply pull out and stop delving into middle eastern affairs, age-old hatreds will kick in and they will resume killing each other.

The military is meant to defend, not attack. The only purposes I see it serving at this point is to help during natural disasters or impose quarantines during plagues.
Keep telling that to yourself. Next time you visit North Korea and China tell me how much fun you had.

If we "simply" lol how is it simple to pull out 160 THOUSAND TROOPS (which are doing their jobs which by they way you want them to be job less) so that they can go back and doing what they "normally" do.

How about this just to help your cause lets just stop sending supplies to the middle east and let my troops die out there. I said my because you have no support for any person that is currently over there. Then we can just take all of out air planes and leave all the troops there to die because for you thats like killing 2 birds with one stone. Less military and we won't be invading Iraq anymore. Yay for murder isn't that right?
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I think we should just stop using military as our primary source of international intervention, that's all. As I said before, we shot off rounds before the U.N. even went in to inspect for WMD's, which there were none, therefore eliminating what was probably our first cause to go in there in the first place. We then hopped from excuse to excuse (Again, not trying to sound biased).

Going over our military history in the last decade(s).

In all honesty, I'm thinking that Panama and Desert Storm are things that could atleast have an attempt at peace first. I think that the whole reason why we were in Mogadishu is because U.N. personnel were restoring peace to Somalia, and needed a force of Marines to back them up due to Somalia being unstable. After Marines left, Aidid started to attack peacekeeping forces and left 43 dead, including a few American troops. We then, apparently, had the need to go in and stop Aidid's militia.

Also, I'm paying attention to the genocide in Darfur. We obviously can't go in, due to our national debt and us being tied up in the ME, but I don't see any other nations helping, other than African Union troops, who are suffering losses. Are they too used to our military intervening in international crises?

Another thought is how the U.N. are involved with the civil wars. Many of us have said "Why don't we just leave them alone and let them duke it out?" (which, in all honesty, isn't a bad idea) but the U.N. probably doesn't allow this. Although it's already our mess, the U.N. is going to ask atleast ONE nation to send their military and bring the peace. Seeing as we have one of the strongest militia in the world, we're probably called on the most.
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Wow, all of you have a lot to say. I was just having a conversation about the war a few minutes ago, with a friend on AIM. I respect all of the opinions of all of you. This is exactly what I am willing to die for. I am willing to fight for people, a country if you will, that can accept the fact that every one has there own opinion.

There are people in other countries that can not stand the fact that we can make decisions of our own free will, and not live in fear. They cannot stand the fact that we can sit there and tell our "leader" in his face that he F****** sucks, and get away with it. They can't stand all of the freedoms we have.

Then there are the people that live in those countries who can accept their life. The accept that they live in a 3rd world country, and they just drive on. They try to get as close to Allah (God) as possible. Their entire lives revolve around their family and Allah. They try to live as normal a life as possible, and they want what we have. Peace. They are not jealous though, because their religious beliefs tell them not to. They live to let others live. They live to enjoy life and, pray that the after life will be better.

Then there are the Jealous people mentioned before them. They can not stand the Americans. They are jealous beyond all reason. They think we are an abomination to Allah. They want us to suffer as they do, because they spent more time trying to please Allah than us, and look, we get the good life and they don't. Yes we may be more sinful in our culture, but they can't just accept they fact that we may not be as close to Allah as them. They want to see others suffer now.

These angry people manipulate the peaceful people into joining their terrorist groups. How you might ask? By hitting them with their own religion. They instill the jealousy that they hold towards us, into these peaceful people. They threaten to kill their brother's families if they don't believe that people of other countries are bad, and that there is no way that we should continue living.

Yes we got mad when they blew up the world trade center. Yes we lit their asses up for it. Yes it was wrong, because there were innocent people there. There is no excuse for killing innocents, but there is a rebuttal to this. We are over there to help the people who want it. Maybe the majority of them don't, but there are still people who do. They do not want to live in a country ruled by terrorists, threatening to take away their children to serve Allah, in their f***** up, twisted manipulation of a religion. We are over there to attempt to rebuild their country; we are there to eliminate this treat that rises over innocent people. There are accidents, on both sides. People over there get scared and shoot at an American soldier for example. They have been told their entire lives that Americans are tyrants.
We assume that the person shooting may be a terrorist (seeing as there is absolutely no way to tell if they are an innocent or not), and we then shoot the person. This happens every day. It is something that is going to happen weather we like it or not.

For those of you who have read in the bible, prophesies of holy wars, these are those wars. For those of you who don't have a religion, respect those who do, and vice-versa; for if you don't, you are just as bad as a terrorist.

The great thing about our country is that we can respect each other (or have the freedom to) no matter what. We need to exercise that awesome freedom, and appreciate that we have it.

Another freedom that Americans have is the freedom of speech. If you have a political standpoint, tell your congressman. If you have a GREAT idea for our country, TELL SOMEONE! We have the right and privelage as Americans to act. If you want to gripe about something, make sure you have a solution to the problem, otherwise you are just adding to it.


I encourage EVERYONE who has good ideas for our country to express it. It's just a simple letter. If it is a good idea, who knows, you may of contributed to making this country better.

Hope all of you keep writing.
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:11 AM   #60
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Wow, all of you have a lot to say. I was just having a conversation about the war a few minutes ago, with a friend on AIM. I respect all of the opinions of all of you. This is exactly what I am willing to die for. I am willing to fight for people, a country if you will, that can accept the fact that every one has there own opinion.
I notice that you are saying you are willing to -die- for that, and yet are speaking in supprt instead, of people who are willing to -kill- for it. As Gandhi said (Great man that he was) "There are many causes for which I am willing to die - but none for which I am willing to kill"

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There are people in other countries that can not stand the fact that we can make decisions of our own free will, and not live in fear. They cannot stand the fact that we can sit there and tell our "leader" in his face that he F****** sucks, and get away with it. They can't stand all of the freedoms we have.
You know...you sound incredibly presumptuous and arrogant when you speak in that way. You just know, somehow, that millions and millions of people are somehow what, "Jealous?" (You use that term below) that you live in a country that is among the most interefring, and arrogant nations that enjoys dictating the world in terms of black and white? You know, that sounds a lot like the countries you are demeaning as horrible.

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Then there are the people that live in those countries who can accept their life. The accept that they live in a 3rd world country, and they just drive on. They try to get as close to Allah (God) as possible. Their entire lives revolve around their family and Allah. They try to live as normal a life as possible, and they want what we have. Peace. They are not jealous though, because their religious beliefs tell them not to. They live to let others live. They live to enjoy life and, pray that the after life will be better.
A few things here: 1/ There are many third-world countries that are not muslim countries. 2/ There are many muslim countries that are not third-world countries, 3/ You have a very low opinion of the ability of these people to have lives and things which are important to them other than their church and their family.

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Then there are the Jealous people mentioned before them. They can not stand the Americans. They are jealous beyond all reason. They think we are an abomination to Allah. They want us to suffer as they do, because they spent more time trying to please Allah than us, and look, we get the good life and they don't. Yes we may be more sinful in our culture, but they can't just accept they fact that we may not be as close to Allah as them. They want to see others suffer now.
My highschool world religions teacher would fail you on the spot for this. "They hate us because they are jealous" is one of the most...unimformed *deep breath* opinions of the issues involving negative opinions of the United States. The people who are both religious and have a low opinion of American culture are a much greater number than "The bad muslims" you seem to be implying. By -most- world religious standards, the United States is a sinful, evil place. Where lust, greed, and hunger for power are the prime goals, where people spend all of their time engaging in worthless entertainments, concerned only with their own pleasure. Doesn't take a radical muslim to find a discrepency between that and the lessons of religion.

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These angry people manipulate the peaceful people into joining their terrorist groups. How you might ask? By hitting them with their own religion. They instill the jealousy that they hold towards us, into these peaceful people. They threaten to kill their brother's families if they don't believe that people of other countries are bad, and that there is no way that we should continue living.
As the country and primary religion that spawned the KKK, the United states is no stranger to the religious using religion in a way that many others find unacceptable. As an aside, that is the actual correlation between the two faiths. Muslim is to Islamic Fundamentalist as Christian is to the KKK. They are a -very- small but very devout subgroup of a subgroup, about which almost every other member of that faith as a horribly low opinion. You're coming so close to implying that you think all muslims are evil terrorists, you really need to watch how you phrase things.

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We are over there to help the people who want it. Maybe the majority of them don't, but there are still people who do.
So...you are invading a country where you will grant the possibility that the MAJORITY don't want you there? By your same logic, if there are -some people- who hate the American Government who live in America, terrorists are -EQUALLY- as justified to attack america as you are to invade those countries.


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They do not want to live in a country ruled by terrorists, threatening to take away their children to serve Allah, in their f***** up, twisted manipulation of a religion. We are over there to attempt to rebuild their country; we are there to eliminate this treat that rises over innocent people. There are accidents, on both sides. People over there get scared and shoot at an American soldier for example. They have been told their entire lives that Americans are tyrants.
Americans have killed more civilans in Iraq and caused more damage to buildings in Iraq in the past year through these "accidents" you want to just laugh off that....ugh *breath again* Do you have any idea the full extent of the damage to global culture and history that has been perpetrated by the Americans in the Middle East? Some of the oldest and arguably most important pieces of historical architecure, cultural centres, collections of documents, artifacts, I mean...I've had professors who study classics in that exact portion of the world, who will tell you that the cost is -incalculable- this is not "some accidents" of "a scared civilian shooting an american soldier" this is just wanton destruction.

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For those of you who have read in the bible, prophesies of holy wars, these are those wars. For those of you who don't have a religion, respect those who do, and vice-versa; for if you don't, you are just as bad as a terrorist.
You've shown such a misunderstanding and lack of respect for a whole religion that I cannot believe you can give this admonition with a straight face.

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The great thing about our country is that we can respect each other (or have the freedom to) no matter what. We need to exercise that awesome freedom, and appreciate that we have it.
But not extend it to people not from your country? That seems a tad hypocritical to me.

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I encourage EVERYONE who has good ideas for our country to express it. It's just a simple letter. If it is a good idea, who knows, you may of contributed to making this country better.
I have a good idea: American needs to stop thinking that it has universal knowledge of good and evil, of right and wrong, and to stop advocating for the wanton interference in the lives of people it has no authority over.
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