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Old 12-5-2007, 03:04 PM   #141
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To call rap music a bad influence on kids is quite an ignorant opinion.
I'm pretty sure that we've been fairly specific when describing what kind of rap music we're talking about, and while there are thousands of less publicized, less popular rap artists singing about whatever, we've been pointing to the highly successful minority and describing that a reasonably large number of those have messages with fairly negative connotations. From that we are asking the question about whether the popularity of music with such a commonly negative message is having a negative impact on the younger more impressionable listeners.

I'm not seeing much ignorance there.
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Old 12-8-2007, 11:23 PM   #142
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Rap is not a musical genre it's a singing style, if you listen to some slipknot songs you can hear the singer kind of rapping, Snap is a good example.

No, hip-hop isn't a bad influence, but I personally find the image silly. You will find degrading or evil music in hip-hop just as well as Metal.

Some Hip-Hop tends to glorify gangster while some metal tends to glorify Satanism, but it's all just music and fun, anyone totally absorbed in this stuff enough to go out and try to live it in a way that can harm others or themselves clearly has terrible parents or a weak sense of reality and self control.

I tend to lean more to the satanic metal, I ****ING LOVE IT, but I'm not in any way going to go around hunting christians or attacking the average citizen. I'm totally against violence and war (as well as religion)

and those are my um...2 cents.
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Old 12-8-2007, 11:35 PM   #143
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Old 12-9-2007, 12:51 AM   #144
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...while metal tends to glorify Satanism...
That may have been the most inaccurate description of the metal genre I have ever heard. There is only a small portion of the metal genre that preaches Satanism, and I mean SMALL. You have to dig deep into Black Metal to find any of that stuff, and that's where it's typically confined to. The rest of metal isn't even remotely related to Satanism; however, it suffers the same stereotype because of blatantly misrepresentative statements like 'metal tends to glorify Satanism'. Do you know how many Christian metal bands are out there singing about God? More than there are singing about Satan, I will tell you that much. I'm in no way religious, but you might as well say that metal tends to glorify God.

I can't say so much about Hip-Hop, because I don't listen to it and I don't know the scene very well, but I'll place a bet that most people would disagree with the genre portraying the 'gangster' image. It is a small portion that does so - but it's that portion that gets all of the attention and negative criticism - same with metal.
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Old 12-9-2007, 12:27 PM   #145
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That may have been the most inaccurate description of the metal genre I have ever heard. There is only a small portion of the metal genre that preaches Satanism, and I mean SMALL. You have to dig deep into Black Metal to find any of that stuff, and that's where it's typically confined to. The rest of metal isn't even remotely related to Satanism; however, it suffers the same stereotype because of blatantly misrepresentative statements like 'metal tends to glorify Satanism'. Do you
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Old 12-9-2007, 12:32 PM   #146
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haven't read anything, but here's my opinion.

rap, metal, games, anything has no bad influence. they can talk about whatever they want, but actually doing what they say or do is your own fault. you know what is right and what is wrong. do the right thing, listen to what you listen to, not do what you listen to.
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Old 12-9-2007, 11:06 PM   #147
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It depends on what kind of rap it is.
I guess christian rap would not be too bad, unless you are athiest, since christian values are generally "good".
But mainstream rap has corrupted our young public and has made this generation think that it is normal to do deameaning things to women and do drugs, alchohol, etc. Rap also has made people think that material things and money are more important than anything else.
It has made many people braggarts as well, notice how 1 out of 3 songs 'sings' about how much/many money/hoes/cars/chains/etc. they have?
It's wrong what we have made normal in our communities.
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:31 AM   #148
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Rap is as bad of an influence on kids as violent video games.

Take that any way you want.
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:11 AM   #149
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Ok well ill say this for rap yes i belive it does have some influence on kids/young adults. But the point of the matter is that rap is not like it used to be either. Now its all about cars, hoes, money. Before in the 90's it was real. It talked about everyday life and the struggle on the street. Listen to Tupac's old stuff and Biggie's its about their life and their hardships that they have had to go through. I dont know if anyone here actually understands what the streets are and if they have actually lived in the streets. Im from Chicago and i have had plenty of friends from the inner city i have stayed plenty of nights down there and it isnt good. But "white people dont give a ****" the cops just kick the **** out of them. Ya it is true they do shoot each other up everyday but its just because thats the way they have lived since they were born. They have never had a life unless you call gangs and drugs a life. All they basically have is a gun and themselves. Most of their parents dont give two sh***. Its sad instead of us actually helping them out we just ignore it. Sometimes music for them is what keeps them going keeps them mentally strong for the life thats out their for them. Now rap is alot less meaningless. The only person i can really say talks about everyday life is eminem. What rappers like that say is true it comes from the heart and it comes from what they have seen. So maybe rap is a bad influence to some people but for them its just simply "life".
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Old 01-21-2008, 11:10 PM   #150
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As in all music, its a big impact on free speech and movements made worldwide through teens and kids themselves.
What they sing about and what they pose in their videos are what some kids look up to when its a famous "idol"
I enjoy rap music, but i ignore 80% of the rappers fake hood moments and bad "acts" of getting shot and involved in crime.
getting a little off topic there.

They cuss, suggest drugs, suggest gangs. and alot of people who listen to REAL rap, not stupid 50 cent and major bands. People like Mac Dre,Tupac,Woodie,X-Raided. REAL rap music with REAL people with REAL events they've gone through.
Rap is a big influence and it does have an effect on kids. but as the same as any other suggestive materials or anything, negative realted. Kids will still DO IT, unless there mature enough to understand what there listening too, and that 80% of rappers encourage kids NOT to do what they do, even though they sing about it.

Rap will always be here but as years pass by it will diteraete into underground such as pop in 1900's. All music passes and relizes the new stuff.

hopefully techno and turntabilism will be the next step.

not saying i'm a big fan of rap (cause i really am) people need to be introduced into different genres before they can call themselves experts on music. [/off-topic]

Taking away rap wont do anything, but so far censoring is working fine in some cases but nothing will stop unless it IS completley removed
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Old 02-24-2008, 12:06 AM   #151
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I havent read all the posts but I would say that it depend only of the age and the degree of receptivity of the person. If you let a young child listen to rap everytime and that the lyrics can be really crude and bad, it can make the child do what they are saying in the songs because he will get to think that its a good thing if he always hear it.

Just censoring in some cases is good because sometimes there is a lot of negative stuff in the songs. Major bands like 50 cents are pure crap. Its completely stupid and i just dont know why they let theses bad rappers sing their crap.

Real rappers that have good style and that are speaking of things acceptable are not harmful.
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Old 02-26-2008, 07:15 PM   #152
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Basically, It just depends on who you listen to.
The Cool Kids only rap about bikes, while Lil' Wayne raps about his whips, money, drugs, and women.
Some rap music is a bad influence,
some isn't.
There are so many sub-genres within rap music to judge it that abstractly.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:14 AM   #153
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There are so many sub-genres within rap music to judge it that abstractly
Yes, that's why we took the time to be more specific as to exactly what kind of rap we were referring to. That's also why an at least cursory glance over the course of the discussion is important before just responding to the original post.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:28 AM   #154
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I don't think anybody takes music seriously enough to be impacted by it that much
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:22 AM   #155
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Maybe they don't do exactly what's said on the song but see it that way:
A kid starts listenning to rap and keeps a knife in his pocket to be like a real gangster, he says the N word a lot and some black dude gets angry at him and throw is fist in that kids face. The kid takes out the knife and stab him in the belly. Here you go.
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Old 03-7-2008, 06:07 PM   #156
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Basically, It just depends on who you listen to.
The Cool Kids only rap about bikes, while Lil' Wayne raps about his whips, money, drugs, and women.
Some rap music is a bad influence,
some isn't.
There are so many sub-genres within rap music to judge it that abstractly.
yea i love the cool kids,and also there political rapper such as lupe fiasco and kanye west,and mos def.so many genres.
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Old 03-7-2008, 11:36 PM   #157
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Rap music doesn't do anything to influence people to do anything bad. They are just lyrics coming from the song writers' life.

Now when it comes to violent video games influencing on kids, it can not cope by itself. It needs something like school bullying. When you are bullied enough and you are about to snap, the first thing that pops into your head is that video game you recently played. You think to yourself, "Yeah...they have it in the video game, so why can't I do it?" You can do it. You just don't think about what's going to happen when you do it.
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Old 03-8-2008, 12:03 AM   #158
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well its not about weather the music is bad in my opinion. its about the person who is listening to it's mind set. if they believe the lyrics and preform it its because they cant tell that what song preach is nothing more than a dream. a strong mind can stop almost anything its just in my opinion, that people have become so self aware that they think so much that they get misconceptions. really if everyone used some logic while listening then there wouldnt be a problem with this stuff.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:07 AM   #159
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I think if a parent blames their child's music for the problems a child is having in their life (getting into drugs, getting in trouble with the law, general tomfoolery) they're just passing the blame from bad parenting to bad people in the music industry trying to influence their precious idealistic children.

parents should be blamed. If you weren't around to teach your kid that video games aren't real, rappers lie and speak with metaphors and similies that dont necessarily reflect things they actually believe or lifestyles they live. some rappers do rap about real ****, like struggles in the ghetto, racism and hate crime in america, etc etc. But those things aren't bad things. thats educating our youth about real things going on that they wouldn't teach you about from that perspective in school or anywhere else.

im not saying there aren't rappers that rap about mindless killing, drug use, whatever. I love brotha lynch hung. i love dr. dre. you just have to be mature about it and dont take those things to heart like advice. you have to realize its just music. its just words its just a beat.

when a kid goes and shoots up his school, dont blame marilyn manson, blame the kid for being a ****ing dumbass and not handling his problems like an adult like his parents should have taught him to.
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you have to realize its just music. its just words its just a beat.
The question becomes: What account should be made, if any, for the people who don't realise that, and do take it to heart, and as happens with celebrities of all kinds, people emulate them because they idolize them?

You blame parents for "raising bad kids" because they don't teach them that "rappers lie and speak with metaphors" but when you are a celebrity, you have a certain degree of influence over the people who like you, and I'm not sure you can say they are -blameless- when they are aware of the fact that they influence people and are spreading a message that, what they genuinely believe or not, was still their free choice to communicate.

If I personally think drugs are bad, and I make a point of actively glamourizing drugs and the drug lifestyle to kids, and because I'm someone they like and respect, they take up drugs because of the way I describe it, is the fact that I personally think drugs are bad something that should excuse me from responsibility
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