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I think rap in general is repetitive, uncreative, shallow, and lacks the substance of most other music. Most themes are based on killing people, losing your girlfriend, knocking up your girlfriend, fighting with your girlfriend, doing drugs, and doing bad things to the community. It is the worst kind of music, it is hardly an art, and does not do justice to people with a creative ear. Additionally, the rap music here on FFR is absolutely horrible and should be removed on those grounds alone. If the music isn't bad enough, the steps are subpar to the rest of the songs out there. Please admins, do something about the poor selection you are providing in the rap/hip hop section.
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I mean...you raise some good points about why -you- don't like rap music, but you haven't touched at all on whether rap music is a bad influence, and on the larger scale whether media in general has a large influence on children and what ought to be done, if anything, to control that influence. Though we have no doubts now about why you personally don't like rap. |
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You know as well as I do that no good parent can completely shelter their child from the world. If they try they're criticized for not showing their child the real world. Parents can do as much as they can, but they cannot completely prevent the effects of exposure to something that's so prevalent in our culture (especially black culture). Friends, radio, television, movies, all those things glorify rapper life, and listenting to the music or watching the videos is not something as concrete as doing heroin or smoking or something that the parents can set the kid on the right path and reasonably expect that he stays there. No, it's just listening to music, which seems harmless to a teenage kid. But, without the rappers' glorification of the lifestyle, there's no reason to pay attention to it or like it. Having one without the other will not solve the problem. --Guido http://andy.mikee385.com |
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wlfwind91 i forgot to add that i was lazy to add an argument. i wouldve pretty much said the same thing as the others anyway
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If you're not going to discuss anything or give an argument, don't post in CT.
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Lawl.
Yah, I do agree.. I hate MOST songs that they say/sing, half the time I'm not sure whether they're are singing or not; all I hear from them is what they're saying and the music in the background, but some of them are O.K., a little of their videos are legitimate, but most of them are suggestive/inappropriate.Probably the reason why most people listen to the music, is that they are really not into the music, but into the "music-video".. I'm not sure about this, but when I change the channel on the TV to a music video channel, sometimes inappropriate ones come up, not meant for children under 13 or something.. (I almost never listen to rap music, I do not enjoy it... but when I'm bored on the TV I look around and find some "strange" stuff on the music videos SOMETIMES.. So anyways)... ![]() |
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Great. Fantastic.
Now, we're having a discussion, here, so would you mind either contributing or leaving? --Guido http://andy.mikee385.com |
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I dont think that its entirely the rap community's fault for the way our society has gone downhill. A main factor is the parent's choice of whether or not he/she lets their child listen to it. As a young child growing up in a traditional family, I was raised to think that rap was bad and evil. In a sense, it is. It promotes basically nothing good and everything bad. Now, in our time, too many parents are fine with letting their children run loose and do whatever their little hearts desire. They start to listen to rap music and the imitate the rappers in those videos, and that is where you start to see all the negativity behind it.
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sorry for leaving useless posts. i shall leave my argument now. children are able to take in information and it seems to come to them easily. just like with learning a language, after some time of hearing words being spoken to them they pick it up. how much more when they hear the lyrics related to violence, sex, money, etc. their minds are still developing so whatever enters their brains tend to stick. it is ridiculous how many kids are cursing these days. although rap music may not be the cause of it all, it does play a role. children emulate what hear regardless of whether its bad or good.
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A lot of people feel the need to be what the media says they should be, and that is the true problem. How easily someone can be swayed from reality to media's reality is the problem. (Redundant post?) |
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Rap is...well, let me put it in forum terms. Rap=fail. I absolutely hate today's rap, but the stuff in the past, like in the 90s and such (remember The Sugarhill Gang, NWA, and Run DMC?) has some meaning. Today, sexual content gets to teens and screws them up. Stay like me, stick to the classics and find alternatives.
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Guido - Paul Wall, Eminem to an extent.
Some rap music is good, but listening to songs about killing people doesn't make me want to kill people. The stereotypes perpetuated by the majority of todays rappers are bad though. |
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Tupac would be a great example of a setting a good example. He shares his hardships with society about how he's hit rock bottom and tried to show people there -is- a light at the end of the tunnel. That you -dont- have to start smoking weed, drink, get prostitutes.
I mean, I don't listen to rap, but that's my perspective on it. Is rap music a bad influence? Yes, to an extent.
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I don't even count rap, hip-hop, or R&B as music.
I completely dispise all of them. I think that people who listen to them are as shallow as can be, because that music is TOTALLY immoral. Rap is a terrible influence on the teenage mind nowadays... Thank you for ruining society, rap music. I hate you.
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So Ni**ers With Attitude has some meaning that doesn't influence anything bad on the african american community of those times? I might want to rethink that. Quote:
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Guido, why are so many useless posts being made?
Anyway, the question here is not whether you consider hip hop/rap/R&B a form of music. It's not whether you like it or not, and frankly no one here gives a rat's ass. I agree with Maruku, that it is a lot like a language for younger kids, because what they hear is what the emulate. They hear people swearing 24/7 they start to swear if they hear people talking about drive-bys and smackin their hos then they'll try and get involved with both. But, as always it all comes right down to the parents. Yes, much of the rap industry is despicable (Not all, because there is some I like) and shouldn't even be published, because the sad fact of the matter is that most rappers sit and try to write lyrics that's appealing to white, suburban middle school kids who want to be hard-core. You do have some like Eminem whose goal is far from young children, since he does have a daughter of his own and understands the effect music and lyrics can have on kids, he wouldn't let his own daughter listen to that bullcrap. Yes, rap is a bad influence, but parents are a worse influence. |
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