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Being fully honest I have seen in articles that we have seen and looked at over 200 planets. Besides that, I think its worth a shot. I mean, our planet isn't going to hold out another few hundred years the way we're handling it. It even shows within the next 50 years water levels of the oceans could raise another 40 feet. Storms would get worse and we would be in a major crises. We do have technology of getting people in outter space and we do have machines that can semi-perma put us to sleep for a long period of time. If it gets down to it, we're going to need another planet. This might not be such a bad opertunity. I'm all for developing another planet.
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The real problem, to me, at least, would be keeping up communications and trade between a colony and Earth. If a colony was sent and then forgotten, anything could happen to them. Massive tragedy, historic scientific breakthrough, and we'd never know. The colonists' society would evolve to the point of being completely different from ours. Physical pressure coupled with the break from society would cause drastic changes, possibly leading to the point of the colony and Earth not being abe to get along at all. The point of setting up a multi-system/planet economy is what a project like this would be all about, in my opinion. Any thoughts on an off-planet project inside our system? |
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another colony would be good, but eventualy we will need another planet. There most likely are ways to communicate that far.like TV channel stations. I read somewhere that the frequency under a certain type could go many lightyears out. It was a while back.
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Further, our abilities to terraform are scanty at best when applied to our own planet while we stand on it, terrafroming another planet from that same ship is functionally an impossibility with our current level of technology. I mean, as it stands, we can do maybe -one- of "Put a bunch of people into orbit", "Send a ship to another planet", and "Build a habitat capable of supporting human life" But I really don't see a way that we can do all three, in sequence, in one go, unless our goal is successfully allowing maybe 2 or 3 people to live in an enclosed habitat on the moon, for a few years. |
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first i say we should get some people go fly out there immediately. like a group of 15 or so like devon mentioned. just to start us off.
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And when they get there they do what? All get out of the spaceship, collapse to the ground and asphyxiate?
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And you're telling us we should send people out there for a test run? And uh, just wait around here for 350,000 years to see how it went? XD We could be another species by then. Mars is a much much better short term goal >__> Given our current abilities it wouldn't be hard to colonize the moon. They had plans for this, but I'm not sure if it's still on. We have the technology to colonize mars as well, but politics slows this kind of stuff down. I think the first man on mars mission has been delayed to like 2030.
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If this planet is 21 lightyears away shouldn't the light that we are seeing from it's star and the planet be 21 years old? What if, in that 21 years, something has happened to the star and/or the planet, causing it's destruction? All of this would just be a waste of time. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
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Are you kidding me? It takes 6-8 years just to get something to pluto. EDIT: My bad, 10 years http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/0...ion/index.html
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I agree with you. That is a very big risk.
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Also, in my last post I said it would take more than 350,000 years to get there given our current propulsion systems, so yes, I am well aware that we have nowhere near the ability to get to this place yet XD Getting there in less than a year is purely hypothetical, given we had the ability to travel at the speeds I said.
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It seems we need to find a different method of traveling. Which might pose problematic.
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Radio, X-Rays, etc, etc. "Light" isn't just visible light. It includes everything in the electromagnetic spectrum, all of which moves at the same speed. |
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One of the big questions is, even if we could get humans to this planet, would they even stay human? I mean, you're dealing with a completely new set of environmental issues, and that means we would evolve differently than we would on earth...who knows, we may end up with a completely different species after a few hundred thousand years of colonization...
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Our planet is not dying and the only thing we're doing in the category of making it uninhabitable is overpopulating it.
However, the idea of exporting people to another planet to save this one is absurd. We couldn't build enough ships fast enough to ship human beings off this planet at even a tenth the rate that human beings are born. The whole point of interplanetary colonization is to spread the human race far and wide throughout the universe so that if some global catastrophe occured (more likely natural than man-induced) then even losing all the human beings on one planet would not be enough to halt the survival of the species. We would send the absolute best and brightest on the first expeditions. Further colony ships would have lower restrictions on who could go. It takes bright minds to settle a new world. It would likely be decades before they had a self-sustaining agricultural society. It also takes hardy and motivated people to dedicate their lives to such work. So the smart but weak and the strong but stupid would have to stay behind as well. Different religions and political organizations would also be vying for control of the first ships. That part would be a catastrophe. Assuming the atmosphere and surface conditions were truly suitable to human life (or at least within some tolerable range of suitability) the difficulty would probably be more to do with the trip there. Cryogenics is not panning out and therefore we would need ships with somplex life support and agricultural systems. There would be a hell of a lot of technical difficulties and political instabilities on those multi-decade possibly multi-century journeys. There would possibly be some skirmishes or wars had on these ships during travel and the likelihood of one faction or another gaining control of propulsion or energy systems mid-flight and using them as barter/leverage to gain control of the whole mission (and possibly blowing up or disabling the ship mid-journey) would be pretty high. All in all, I don't think humans will make it and if they do, no one on THIS website would be going on the first journeys. Except for maybe someone like me. |
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planetary travel will probably not happen for hundreds if not thousands of years. *popped your bubble*
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