Old 01-22-2004, 06:56 PM   #41
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I love the idea that people are so willing to point out that the Bible may have flaws that make this story true, but are unwilling to recognize that this article, written by those whose hands weren't made holy with the word of God (as the Bible WAS, and is actually hailed as one of the most accurate historical accounts of events ever written), may as well.

I don't believe these people are trying to somehow destroy Christian ideals. I feel they simply do not understand what it is to be Christian. Aleco, don't waver on the question of "What if it IS true?" It's a non-issue, because as Christians, we are positive it is not.

Btw, heyhey11, the Torah is the Christian Old Testament.

You follow the Bible too, or should. So deny "God stories" all you want, and deny your own faith.
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Old 01-22-2004, 06:59 PM   #42
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I'm saying no Christian should or will believe it. That's all.
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Old 01-22-2004, 07:03 PM   #43
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Aleco: Ignore VxDx.

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ha.. so how would a agnostic feel about evolution?
Evolution is a big reason why I'm agnostic. A few of my friends were laughing at me and saying there is no proof whatsoever of it happening. I just ended the convo before I shoved all their religious crap in their faces for not respecting my views.

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atheist (as it was explained to me) believes that (#$% just is here.. just one day it popped up..
Exolutionist believe the big bang and all that stuff
i was tought they were two seperate things.
Which is why I said most atheists are actually agnostic...
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Banditcom: I want to see what he has to say.
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Old 01-22-2004, 07:04 PM   #45
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Btw, heyhey11, the Torah is the Christian Old Testament.

You follow the Bible too, or should. So deny "God stories" all you want, and deny your own faith.
YEAHHHHHHHHHH someone who actually understands religon other than cenright

See i dont believe in the God storys and the splitting of seas

I do believe in God but he is only for faith

Not for miracles
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if some dude was hiding in the bushes trying to get a picture of me.. and i found him.. thats an invasion of privacy.. ima whoop his ass.. then sue him.. then have sex with his wife just out of spite
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Old 01-22-2004, 07:06 PM   #46
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Aleco: You won't get a serious answer.
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Old 01-22-2004, 07:09 PM   #47
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Banditcom: I want to see what he has to say.
Oh; god, jesus, the bible, creationism, resurrection, blind faith, sacraments, church, and so on.
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Old 01-22-2004, 07:11 PM   #48
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Which brings up another interesting point. How authentic is the english language version of the bible? How many times has it been translated and revised over the years and adapted to target it's audience? Why is there confusion as to the real name of Mary when it is the most accurate historical accounts of events ever written? Realize that I am putting this out there purely for the enjoyment of conversation.

You do know btw that any Stenographer would dispute your claim as the most accurate historical accounts of events ever written Mandragora? lol

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Old 01-22-2004, 07:14 PM   #49
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My friend just handed me this book called "The Evolution Cruncher". Meh... I'll look through it to see what crap they dispute.
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Vxdx: yeah, it's called religion.
Synth: There are some very interesting things people disagree or can't understand. It's all weird. That's why you have faith.
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Which brings up another interesting point. How authentic is the english language version of the bible? How many times has it been translated and revised over the years and adapted to target it's audience? Why is there confusion as to the real name of Mary when it is the most accurate historical accounts of events ever written? Realize that I am putting this out there purely for the enjoyment of conversation.

You do know btw that any Stenographer would dispute your claim as the most accurate historical accounts of events ever written Mandragora? lol

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i think its because writting in back when the bible was published could not have been extremely neat. A little typo could change the whole name of someone.
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Yeah, and your blind faith amuses me. I love that you live based on a fictional book.
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VxDx: Respect his beliefs. He's not putting them on you.
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I do respect his beliefs, insofar as he can believes what he wishes, but it's not what I believe, so I ask that you respect my beliefs.
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VxDx, this is not an area to flame people. If you do not have anything of value to add, please leave the thread. You are only trying to enrage certain people.

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Not at all, I'm really curious as to why and how people can believe what they do.
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Old 01-22-2004, 07:25 PM   #57
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"blind faith" isn't really a nice way to ask... :P
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Old 01-22-2004, 07:26 PM   #58
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sometimes people don't even know why they believe what they do VxDx.

for example: I believe in god, I don't know why I believe in god, but nevertheless I do.
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Old 01-22-2004, 07:27 PM   #59
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Blind Faith is a song from Pump It Up. Quite good if I remember correctly.
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Which brings up another interesting point. How authentic is the english language version of the bible? How many times has it been translated and revised over the years and adapted to target it's audience? Why is there confusion as to the real name of Mary when it is the most accurate historical accounts of events ever written? Realize that I am putting this out there purely for the enjoyment of conversation.
Yeah and plus the monks wrote and translated the bible in really dim lit rooms in the monastaries, scriptoria I think they are called, so of course there would be mistranslations. Plus because of the religious turmoil in that time things certainly could have been added and taken out. Just wanted to throw some history in.
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