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Advanced electronic systems and networks are a joke compared to modifying the structure of space time to allow for instantaneous travel or theoretical time travel.
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I read a theory once that every moment is a new dimension, so theoretically if you had a wormhole you could return to any moment that has ever existed before the present. I don't think, however, that you could go into the future unless we're actually in that past and the future has already happened. How could you travel somewhere that doesn't exist yet? Wouldn't you cease to exist by going there?
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You have a good point, darkdragoness. That is very curious... Hmmm...
However, I think that time is, indeed, a human form to keep track of things. There is a past. If we could go into the past, there would probably be some sort of space-time paradox... Ah... yeah, it's already starting to confuse me... But I have logic in my mind somewhere... I'm just a little too tired to access it yet... I think that if any attempt to enter the past would be prevented by the people in the future so then the past doesn't change and the future will remain the same. Entering the past is pointless. What happens if your meddling kills someone that could have influenced... etc. etc. etc.? Therefore, we have the butterfly effect... I'm off subject... I don't really think that time travel is possible and if it is, there are some regulations, I'm sure. What would happen if you or I went into the past and changed things? Our lives, even our world, may be different. Not to mention, what happens after we alter what's in our past? Do we forget what was in the future, or do we remember it all? What about other people? Hmmmm... I just don't know... and I'm just rambling so ignore me... ^o^;
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BTW, wormholes are different from black holes. Black holes are supposed to absorb energy/mass through their massive gravity and obliterate it. A worm hole is a hole that would accelerate you to the other end of the hole thus allowing almost instantinous travel...
But I think that time travel, with the proper specs and technology is possible either forward or backward, we just do not percieve the change due to alternate diminisions...since after all, we are in our own small bubble universe. What if the time travel causes us to jump bubble universes in proportion to time? Why would time be the only thing affected? Why not the 3 diminsions of space (as well as the many we don't percieve). We shift between universes millions of times per second...(study your electrons...they just "phase out" and disappear.) so if they our jumping back and forth between bubble universes then if time is the only factor, which bubble universe would the time machine be landing in? The depth of this question is almost unbearable at this time.
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You can go two ways with backwards time travel. One way leads to time paradoxes and the possible destruction of the very space time continuum. The other gives you awesome adventures and a skewed time line that doesn't affect your own time line. Quote:
Too bad it's not truly possible to destroy energy or matter. You can "neutralize" matter with antimatter, but it cannot be truly destroyed. Quote:
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Unless i overlooked it, i didnt see anything about high quantities of mass distorting space-time. taking that into consideration, there is such thing as time acceleration, which is essentially the same as traveling forward in time. Personally, i dont beleive that the past is an existance anymore, and that it only exists as what we call the past. So with that theory, it would be impossible to travel backwards in time. Also seeing as the future doesnt exist at the same time as the present, then direct transportation from present to future is impossible as well. But then that leads to the question that if one person take a route to a destination via the high-mass route (with accelerated space-time/distance) and another person were to take a route avoiding such large masses, but covered the same area on a 2d plane, would they arrive at the same time? On a different note, as stated before, woemholes and black holes are completely different entitys, which can, coincidentally, accomplish the same task. That task being getting from one place to another faster than any other means of travel. Sadly, the amount of mass held by a black hole would, as we all know, tear apart every form or matter we can comprehend, and a wormholes acceleration would leave any being in a quite a mess... But one concept of the universe it that all edges of it are actually wormholes, such as an invisible pipe system throughout the edge of a likely spherical universe, each wormhole leading to a corresponding wormhole somewhere else in the universe. That being a simple way to immagine it, but in reality (or so we think) wormholes are direct transportation to another place, so the invisible pipes are more of invisible teleportation devices, if you will. Now, on the other hand, if the universe is a continuous body that exists infinitely in every direction, then the acclaimed wormholes would likely be in supposedly random areas throughout the universe leading to anotehr random area. Neither theory has been tested nor proven, as we can clearly tell, that would be slightly difficult to accomplish. Anyways thats all i have to say on the topic.
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Afrobean....it OBLITERATES mass...converting it to energy...I am well aware of E=mc^2.
But I do like your definition of a worm hole better, i understand the concept but my explanation was skewed.
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As for immense mass bending the fabric of space time: You really think we could punch a hole and control where the hole comes out on the other end? You think the immense mass needed to punch this hole would even be possible to travel through without the body of any human passenger of a vehicle simply being crushed into a singularity.
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Am I missing something, or doesn't matter get converted to energy every day all around us? Take cars for example?
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As for the fuel: it also changes forms. Cars might not have been the best example. Let's look at humans and eating. We eat food and digest it to take it's potential energy and turn it into energy we use to live. The food doesn't cease to exist however, it just changes forms. It goes from nice delicious food with potential energy to feces.
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We all know that matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, but I was under the impression that matter can be converted to energy and vice versa. I don't know if this is just me, but I don't feel like I excrete quite as much food as I take in..... is this an illusion? I would assume that some of it is being converted to energy, isn't it?
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So wait.
They can create matter by colliding matter with antimatter? How?
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I saw a special on Discovery or History channel or something like that, and unless I'm mistaken, they never mentioned CREATING matter OR energy.
Doesn't matter either way. Possible creation of matter through this means is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. It was only even brought up as an aside because someone erroniously said that black holes convert matter into energy. Black holes simply take in matter and combine it into it's singularity. If they converted matter to energy, they wouldn't have any mass... they'd be masses of energy. Also, I'm not COMPLETELY familiar with black holes, but I am quite sure that they DO have mass, as without it, they'd have no gravity.
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They are not creating matter and energy, they are changing forms of what is already existing. Is it better if I say that matter is the product of the collision?
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black holes are like garbage disposals they all lead somewhere but i cant find where it goes
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Black holes are areas in space with MASSIVE gravitational force, whatever, I don't know how to phrase things right now its like 11:16 in the morning and I just woke up. They are not like garbage disposals, more like landfills, you're dropped there and NEVER expected to be found again. Ight?
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Also, Black holes don't eat all of the matter to increase its size. As I said above, black holes give off a lot of radiation (about 50% is converted to radiation?). Lastly, of course black holes have mass. The idea is that a singularity, given the solutions to GR, has an infinite density (but in reality, we arn't sure and it is probably just very large). Given D=m/v, where you have a lot of mass concentrated into an abnormally small volume.
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first, watch this, a clip from the discovery channel.
Pretty much I understand it, it's about the light!!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=oRWwI61so5Q |
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