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More like most of them... it is sad indeed but what are can you do besides hope whichever one is chosen is competent enough to run the country?
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Guido, i live in the South. Alabama to be exact. All i know is racism is everywhere down here, ive grown accustomed to it. I didnt know it was different everywhere else.
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How ****in oblivious are you
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Hehe, we had a female prime ministed years ago
Although she was called the Iron Lady, so I'm not really sure how feminine she was... In fact that's similar to Hilary Clinton Been wiki-ing this Obama guy, he sounds good. I think America needs a democrat government. The republicans refusal to recognise and tackle climate change annoys me no end. As does their love of oil... |
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From what I read, these seem to be Obama's goals:
-Improved Economy (Including getting ethanol involved) -Although he plans to end terrorism, he didn't support the war in Iraq. -Plans to reach out to many different religions -Wants to prevent HIV (Well, like any other president, but he seems to be trying to take more action against it.) -Is pro-abortion; this I have no problem with as long as women only abort if they CAN'T AFFORD the baby or can't put it up for adoption (Highly unlikely, but it can happen). If they can manage to have the baby around, I suggest that they support life and don't abort the baby. |
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In my opinion, too many people are concerned with PC. A person should vote for the candidate they most agree with. Typically a party nominates someone who shares common beliefs.
There are people in America are afraid of change, and what might happen if a woman or non-white person is elected. I am not saying all people are like this. Some people, as has been stated above, might vote for them because of their differences. People should vote vote for the candidate that goes along with their beliefs. EDIT: This topic moves very quickly.
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Also about the U.S. election...I support Oboma mainly cause of similar belif. Clinton isn't all that bad but I don't agree with her outlook. What pisses me off more is she is only this far in politics because she's the wife of an ex-presedant and the fact she's a woman might help her with the feminist vote (I hate feminist...there was a law passed in Toronto a few years back so woman can walk around topless...the only one's who do SHOULD NOT BE TOPLESS). I absolutly hate when people vote for stupid STUPID reasons such as a last name, gender, or skin colour which I can see some black people voting for Obama for that reason which pisses me off. Last edited by fido123; 02-27-2007 at 07:36 PM.. |
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I think that if Obama doesn't win, it's going to be really hard to come across another situation where someone who isn't white will have a chance to win. Not because I'm racist, but because America is racist.
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Someone said something about hopefuly the iraq war would be over soon. Well all we can do is hope. I would love to see the end of the war, but theres still chance of another war. Will she be ready to give the final order? |
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What's so virtuous about not having a white male in the presidency again? Why is that something to strive for? Shouldn't we be ignoring the fact that a candidate is black or a woman and voting based on political ideologies? As far as I'm concerned, voting for Obama just because he's black is no different than voting for some other guy just because he's not.
Anyway, the main reason that we haven't had a black or woman president yet is because the ratio of them to white males in positions that are considered for the presidency is incredibly small. Black people and women just don't run for offices as frequently as white men do. Nobody's being oppressed, here, so no "point" needs to be made by voting for a black guy. @Lamoc: that's a crock of ****. Any woman who could be considered for the presidency has shown many times over her capacity for leadership and good decision making. You can't honestly expect somebody to believe that women are inherently more anti-war than men. @luna: I meant on the grand scale. Sure, it's still prevalent to a degree in Harrison, Arkansas, and Montgomery, Alabama, but it's effectively confined to such areas. The rest of the country, on the whole, however, is insanely intolerant of racism (to a stupid degree, sometimes). When was the last time you saw a law enforced that was genuinely racist? Or a public official say something racist? It doesn't happen because of the uproar it would cause. Hell, things that AREN'T racist are jumped on because some idiot might stretch it to mean something racist that had nothing to do with the original intent. Carreers are ruined because of that type of thing. My point is that the percentage of voting Americans who would vote against a candidate just because of his or her race is negligibly small in most cases. --Guido http://andy.mikee385.com |
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Well, we should, but let's admit, it'd be really cool to have a non-white president for once. I know it's a really dumb way of doing things, but I really don't want to research every single fact about a person(there's a lot you can't even find out about, anywhere). It happens all of the time that people vote for someone and the person ends up doing something "bad", so you really have no idea who you're really voting for, no matter how much research you do.
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We discussed this in debate today, and the majority of my class said that they would vote for Clinton or Obama. When asked why they stated, I agree with his/her general politics.
I was quite shocked at this because there are kids in my class who would be considered stereo typical minorities, It was actually the Caucasian members, and two African-American males who said that they would vote for only a white guy. I personally asked Ray, one of the African-American guys, why, and he said because he didn't believe that America was ready to vote for a "black" guy. sub note. I stayed out of the argument because of lack of information on individual candidate beliefs. Oh, Ray was slapped by one of the other African-American kids. "Well sure, thats the way things SHOULD be, but you have to remember that America has a LOT of idiots and people who think that just because they have the ability to think freely they should flaunt it and use it for every cent its worth. You know that we wouldn't need laws and we wouldnt need to worry about discrimination if everyone overall did the best they could to be kind respectable humble people (cept things like traffic laws and such of course =P) but you know thats never going to happen either." -slipstrike0159 *laughs* Wait. You can put respectable and human together and not be joking? Oh, that's right, nope. jk EDIT: oops. humble respectable people...
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I personally don't care anymore what gender or race someone is, but what they bring to the table. Any white candidate can be horrible because of his political knowledge and decisions, but same goes for everyone else. Many uneducated and uninformed people will vote not on someone's ability, but on their gender. Their race. Their background. Even their name.
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Look, the point is that no matter how much you want it to be so, people are going to do things for the wrong reason all of the time with no practical justification. All you can do is do your part by voting who you think would be best suited for the job of running the country and hope that other people follow suit. @virtuoussinner - Hmmm... its interesting how you took my clearly over exaggerated statement to be literal. Also, if you want to be overly technical, i never said the word "human" in that sentence. |
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